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Reply #60 posted 05/27/10 10:24pm

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NastradumasKid said:

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The fine or not thing is for the ladies but dude looks
like an out of work porn star in this pic.


Never said he was ugly, I just don't find him attractive. I find men like Morris Chestnut attractive.


I had a crush on him for many years. I saw some recent pics of him. He kinda fell off. confused
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Reply #61 posted 05/27/10 10:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

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Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. lol


I'm medium brown lol

Not too many people care for his films. And I don't care about his billions. Good for him. lol For a million dollars, I'll put on a wig and shoot at people too. lol


giggle I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. lol
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Reply #62 posted 05/27/10 10:25pm

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@Layzie, no I'm not blind, I don't think he's cute. lol Not all "light-skinned" brothers can make it work. Not everything is better lighter, don't believe what you hear. lol
[Edited 5/27/10 22:17pm]


Hey now, I LOVE all shades. lol I guess it's just a difference of opinion. I think he's fine though. He's a terrible actor but still fine. *kanye shrug*


What's up with the damn KW shrug? lol
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Reply #63 posted 05/27/10 10:26pm

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Layzie said:

NastradumasKid said:



Never said he was ugly, I just don't find him attractive. I find men like Morris Chestnut attractive.


I had a crush on him for many years. I saw some recent pics of him. He kinda fell off. confused


Yeah, I noticed that not too long ago, maybe he's going through something.
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Reply #64 posted 05/27/10 10:26pm

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Timmy84 said:



I'm medium brown lol

Not too many people care for his films. And I don't care about his billions. Good for him. lol For a million dollars, I'll put on a wig and shoot at people too. lol


giggle I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. lol


And that shit was gonna sell anyway, he was already hustling that character on the chitlin' circuit. I'm not hating on dude, I mean he made his way out of no way but just because I congratulate that don't mean I don't support it. I'm more indie lol
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Reply #65 posted 05/27/10 10:26pm

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Layzie said:



Hey now, I LOVE all shades. lol I guess it's just a difference of opinion. I think he's fine though. He's a terrible actor but still fine. *kanye shrug*


What's up with the damn KW shrug? lol


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Reply #66 posted 05/27/10 10:28pm

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:



giggle I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. lol


And that shit was gonna sell anyway, he was already hustling that character on the chitlin' circuit. I'm not hating on dude, I mean he made his way out of no way but just because I congratulate that don't mean I don't support it. I'm more indie lol
[Edited 5/27/10 22:26pm]


Yeah, he already had a mini empire before he jumped into movies. The huge crib in 'Diary' was his, from what I understand.
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Reply #67 posted 05/27/10 10:33pm

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:



giggle I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. lol


And that shit was gonna sell anyway, he was already hustling that character on the chitlin' circuit. I'm not hating on dude, I mean he made his way out of no way but just because I congratulate that don't mean I don't support it. I'm more indie lol
[Edited 5/27/10 22:26pm]



I understand and that's fine. I don't hate him, I just don't really like him or really just don't care for him. I'm fine with him doing something with his life.
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Reply #68 posted 05/27/10 10:33pm

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Layzie said:

NastradumasKid said:



What's up with the damn KW shrug? lol




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Reply #69 posted 05/27/10 11:48pm

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Tyler Perry, the Amos & Andy of our generation, don't get me started. rolleyes That idiot has taken every image/belief from "A Birth Of A Nation" and made a "career" of it. Just because someone is in Black face making this manure, I should think it's OK? Please. If white Hollywood had made this manure everybody and their momma would be up in arms.

I'm sorry he has rights to, "Colored Girls Who Considered Suicide".



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Reply #70 posted 05/27/10 11:56pm

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Aw I would have loved to see her and janet nominated in the same category for this film, but I guess it's not going to happen.
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Reply #71 posted 05/28/10 12:41am

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Hell Mariah was never colored anyway. lol


Oh don't you start with that BPB Test crap again! disbelief lol
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Reply #72 posted 05/28/10 12:50am

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hmmm Just when she was finally starting to prove herself as an actress.Her role in 'Precious' was small,but she was OK in it.I don't know why she would back out of a movie that seems likely to be a hit.
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Reply #73 posted 05/28/10 2:49am

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hmmm Just when she was finally starting to prove herself as an actress.Her role in 'Precious' was small,but she was OK in it.I don't know why she would back out of a movie that seems likely to be a hit.


Somebody posted earlier that the "doctor adviced her to". I don't think she would back off from this if theren't good reasons, after all this is semi-career move.

And thank you Sosgemini, the old tired ass "we gotta support him coz he's black and stays casting folks" argument is dusty as my 90 years great grandmother's wig. FUCK THAT! I'm not gonna sit down and support something that insults my intelligence. Watching his movies is like watching something you'd tell a 12 years old, he seriously took the "talking down to the audience" attitude to a whole another level.

Beside the coonery factor(which has been raised to death, and rightfully so) I seriously take issues with how he portrays women, this man has issues that he needs to address, they're EXTREMELY sexist(A woman is as good as long she keeps a GOOD man, otherwise she's a weak helpless poor unfortunate soul - it has always been this message, whether subliminal or pronounced),,,,,and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged black women disbelief

I love it when some folks say "I don't want to think, I'm checking my brain at the door when I go see this film" but still have the nerve to complain in the same breath that "there are no good black films left".
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Reply #74 posted 05/28/10 4:17am

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Harlepolis said:

SoulAlive said:

hmmm Just when she was finally starting to prove herself as an actress.Her role in 'Precious' was small,but she was OK in it.I don't know why she would back out of a movie that seems likely to be a hit.


Somebody posted earlier that the "doctor adviced her to". I don't think she would back off from this if theren't good reasons, after all this is semi-career move.

And thank you Sosgemini, the old tired ass "we gotta support him coz he's black and stays casting folks" argument is dusty as my 90 years great grandmother's wig. FUCK THAT! I'm not gonna sit down and support something that insults my intelligence. Watching his movies is like watching something you'd tell a 12 years old, he seriously took the "talking down to the audience" attitude to a whole another level.

Beside the coonery factor(which has been raised to death, and rightfully so) I seriously take issues with how he portrays women, this man has issues that he needs to address, they're EXTREMELY sexist(A woman is as good as long she keeps a GOOD man, otherwise she's a weak helpless poor unfortunate soul - it has always been this message, whether subliminal or pronounced),,,,,and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged black women disbelief

I love it when some folks say "I don't want to think, I'm checking my brain at the door when I go see this film" but still have the nerve to complain in the same breath that "there are no good black films left".
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It depends on what kind of black films the people want to see.
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Reply #75 posted 05/28/10 6:06am

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JackieBlue said:

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Oh please, don't say that shake



You know there's a 50/50 chance that it will.

Shiiit, with TP at the helm at LEAST 65/35 geek
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Reply #76 posted 05/28/10 6:10am

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:




Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. lol


I'm medium brown lol

Not too many people care for his films. And I don't care about his billions. Good for him. lol For a million dollars, I'll put on a wig and shoot at people too. lol

falloff Where do I sign up??? lol
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Reply #77 posted 05/28/10 6:17am

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I dont agree..he plays good roles in his films as himself, so had Jill Scott's husband...in Meet The Browns the good guy was the son also, in The Family That Preys it was the black husband as the good guy, in Madeas Big Happy Family we also saw a combination of positive black male roles..more so all of them. That also goes for Why Did I Get Maried.

Dont hate because he fiends for the lightskinned dudes..I just think that is his taste...and also trying to promote interracial dating (TFTP & WDIGM2 & I Can Do Bad All By Myself).

Well when a person is doing good there is also a band of people that don't like it so oh well.



Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. lol



Did I say ONE THING about him making money?
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Reply #78 posted 05/28/10 6:50am

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Hell Mariah was never colored anyway. lol


You need to see that heffa when she tours North Africa and those recessive genes come out. When she gets tan and that hair of hers reverts, she gets colored real quick lol lol lol
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Reply #79 posted 05/28/10 7:02am

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Ottensen said:

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Hell Mariah was never colored anyway. lol


You need to see that heffa when she tours North Africa and those recessive genes come out. When she gets tan and that hair of hers reverts, she gets colored real quick lol lol lol


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Reply #80 posted 05/28/10 7:03am

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paisleypark4 said:

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Always have and always will. He's instilling the black stereotypes...how convinent.



And has black actors and actresses actually working again, how convinent.

Every American film has a stereotype of SOMETHING. If I put on a Kung Fu movie right now made in Asia I KNOW somebody is going to be eating some rice in the background or something....I can watch a white family comedy and most likely see them in a nice home with two kids and a dog..that is also stereotypical. rolleyes

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Reply #81 posted 05/28/10 7:15am

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Harlepolis said:

and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged, church-going black women disbelief

Fixed it for ya.

To me TP is like the R. Kelly of film making, in a sense. He's found a cheap and predictable formula and a mindless fanbase to keep peddling the same garbage to. neutral And, like R., it works for him in a way that people dare call him a genius. In fact, TP should just remake "Trapped In The Closet" featuring Madea to be a full-length feature film. I bet that shit would gross $100 million the first weekend. neutral
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Reply #82 posted 05/28/10 7:20am

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paisleypark4 said:

NastradumasKid said:




Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. lol



Did I say ONE THING about him making money?


No but it did seem like you were implying that. And BTW, just because he's black doesn't mean I have to support him.
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Reply #83 posted 05/28/10 7:23am

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Harlepolis said:

and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged, church-going black women disbelief

Fixed it for ya.

To me TP is like the R. Kelly of film making, in a sense. He's found a cheap and predictable formula and a mindless fanbase to keep peddling the same garbage to. neutral And, like R., it works for him in a way that people dare call him a genius. In fact, TP should just remake "Trapped In The Closet" featuring Madea to be a full-length feature film. I bet that shit would gross $100 million the first weekend. neutral


spit @ R Kelly comparison. But I see what you mean. I used to like R Kelly, but I still like his music. However, He is NOT a musical genius.
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Reply #84 posted 05/28/10 9:28am

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cinnamongal said:

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And has black actors and actresses actually working again, how convinent.

Every American film has a stereotype of SOMETHING. If I put on a Kung Fu movie right now made in Asia I KNOW somebody is going to be eating some rice in the background or something....I can watch a white family comedy and most likely see them in a nice home with two kids and a dog..that is also stereotypical. rolleyes

yeahthat


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Reply #85 posted 05/28/10 9:37am

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Did I say ONE THING about him making money?


No but it did seem like you were implying that. And BTW, just because he's black doesn't mean I have to support him.


I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people.

That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them....
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Reply #86 posted 05/28/10 9:53am

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No but it did seem like you were implying that. And BTW, just because he's black doesn't mean I have to support him.


I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people.

That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them....



And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life. smile
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Reply #87 posted 05/28/10 10:01am

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paisleypark4 said:



I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people.

That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them....



And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life. smile

yeahthat and no it's not just you

I love how his fans love throwing up how much money he's making as if that justifies the bullshit images and stereotypes he's perpetuating. All his financial success still does not mean that his movies are artful or good for black folks' image. By that token, I guess we should ignore the disaster in the gulf cuz BP made tons of money. rolleyes
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Reply #88 posted 05/28/10 10:10am

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SCNDLS said:

NastradumasKid said:




And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life. smile

yeahthat and no it's not just you

I love how his fans love throwing up how much money he's making as if that justifies the bullshit images and stereotypes he's perpetuating. All his financial success still does not mean that his movies are artful or good for black folks' image. By that token, I guess we should ignore the disaster in the gulf cuz BP made tons of money. rolleyes
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lol spit @ SCNDLS. You're right it's just me, it's a good 90% of the people on this thread who feel the same way. highfive And like you, I do find his movies to be very stereotypical, as if he's trying to bring the old 70s blaxploitation movies back or something. His movies aren't creative, they pretty much follow the same formula/context ever since "Diary of a Mad Black Woman", which is really the only good movie he has ever had. However, I don't hate him, I don't even know him. I just don't like the things he does sometimes.
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Reply #89 posted 05/28/10 11:59am

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I'm glad Mariah is not doing this. I can't stand Tyler Perry's movies! He takes good actors and actresses and still can't manage to create one believable character. He basically makes TV movies and people pay to go watch them at the cinema confuse In that sense I think he's hurting Black cinema just as much as he may be helping it. I know a lot of people who refused to watch Precious because he was attached, despite the fact that he wasn't even creatively involved!
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