NastradumasKid said: phunkdaddy said: The fine or not thing is for the ladies but dude looks like an out of work porn star in this pic. Never said he was ugly, I just don't find him attractive. I find men like Morris Chestnut attractive. I had a crush on him for many years. I saw some recent pics of him. He kinda fell off. | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. I'm medium brown Not too many people care for his films. And I don't care about his billions. Good for him. For a million dollars, I'll put on a wig and shoot at people too. I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. | |
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Layzie said: Timmy84 said: @Layzie, no I'm not blind, I don't think he's cute. Not all "light-skinned" brothers can make it work. Not everything is better lighter, don't believe what you hear. [Edited 5/27/10 22:17pm] Hey now, I LOVE all shades. I guess it's just a difference of opinion. I think he's fine though. He's a terrible actor but still fine. *kanye shrug* What's up with the damn KW shrug? | |
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Layzie said: NastradumasKid said: Never said he was ugly, I just don't find him attractive. I find men like Morris Chestnut attractive. I had a crush on him for many years. I saw some recent pics of him. He kinda fell off. Yeah, I noticed that not too long ago, maybe he's going through something. | |
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NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: I'm medium brown Not too many people care for his films. And I don't care about his billions. Good for him. For a million dollars, I'll put on a wig and shoot at people too. I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. And that shit was gonna sell anyway, he was already hustling that character on the chitlin' circuit. I'm not hating on dude, I mean he made his way out of no way but just because I congratulate that don't mean I don't support it. I'm more indie lol [Edited 5/27/10 22:26pm] | |
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NastradumasKid said: Layzie said: Hey now, I LOVE all shades. I guess it's just a difference of opinion. I think he's fine though. He's a terrible actor but still fine. *kanye shrug* What's up with the damn KW shrug? | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. And that shit was gonna sell anyway, he was already hustling that character on the chitlin' circuit. I'm not hating on dude, I mean he made his way out of no way but just because I congratulate that don't mean I don't support it. I'm more indie lol [Edited 5/27/10 22:26pm] Yeah, he already had a mini empire before he jumped into movies. The huge crib in 'Diary' was his, from what I understand. [Edited 5/27/10 22:29pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: I agree I don't care for his Billi-ons either. Shoot, like you said, if dressing up like a modern day Aunt Jemima slinging a gun gets you money, shit I'll be on that shit too. And that shit was gonna sell anyway, he was already hustling that character on the chitlin' circuit. I'm not hating on dude, I mean he made his way out of no way but just because I congratulate that don't mean I don't support it. I'm more indie lol [Edited 5/27/10 22:26pm] I understand and that's fine. I don't hate him, I just don't really like him or really just don't care for him. I'm fine with him doing something with his life. | |
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Layzie said: NastradumasKid said: What's up with the damn KW shrug? BTW, NEVER change your avatar! | |
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Tyler Perry, the Amos & Andy of our generation, don't get me started. That idiot has taken every image/belief from "A Birth Of A Nation" and made a "career" of it. Just because someone is in Black face making this manure, I should think it's OK? Please. If white Hollywood had made this manure everybody and their momma would be up in arms.
I'm sorry he has rights to, "Colored Girls Who Considered Suicide". ===== [Edited 5/30/10 11:27am] | |
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Aw I would have loved to see her and janet nominated in the same category for this film, but I guess it's not going to happen. | |
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phunkdaddy said: Hell Mariah was never colored anyway.
Oh don't you start with that BPB Test crap again! | |
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Just when she was finally starting to prove herself as an actress.Her role in 'Precious' was small,but she was OK in it.I don't know why she would back out of a movie that seems likely to be a hit. | |
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SoulAlive said: Just when she was finally starting to prove herself as an actress.Her role in 'Precious' was small,but she was OK in it.I don't know why she would back out of a movie that seems likely to be a hit.
Somebody posted earlier that the "doctor adviced her to". I don't think she would back off from this if theren't good reasons, after all this is semi-career move. And thank you Sosgemini, the old tired ass "we gotta support him coz he's black and stays casting folks" argument is dusty as my 90 years great grandmother's wig. FUCK THAT! I'm not gonna sit down and support something that insults my intelligence. Watching his movies is like watching something you'd tell a 12 years old, he seriously took the "talking down to the audience" attitude to a whole another level. Beside the coonery factor(which has been raised to death, and rightfully so) I seriously take issues with how he portrays women, this man has issues that he needs to address, they're EXTREMELY sexist(A woman is as good as long she keeps a GOOD man, otherwise she's a weak helpless poor unfortunate soul - it has always been this message, whether subliminal or pronounced),,,,,and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged black women I love it when some folks say "I don't want to think, I'm checking my brain at the door when I go see this film" but still have the nerve to complain in the same breath that "there are no good black films left". [Edited 5/28/10 2:52am] | |
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Harlepolis said: SoulAlive said: Just when she was finally starting to prove herself as an actress.Her role in 'Precious' was small,but she was OK in it.I don't know why she would back out of a movie that seems likely to be a hit.
Somebody posted earlier that the "doctor adviced her to". I don't think she would back off from this if theren't good reasons, after all this is semi-career move. And thank you Sosgemini, the old tired ass "we gotta support him coz he's black and stays casting folks" argument is dusty as my 90 years great grandmother's wig. FUCK THAT! I'm not gonna sit down and support something that insults my intelligence. Watching his movies is like watching something you'd tell a 12 years old, he seriously took the "talking down to the audience" attitude to a whole another level. Beside the coonery factor(which has been raised to death, and rightfully so) I seriously take issues with how he portrays women, this man has issues that he needs to address, they're EXTREMELY sexist(A woman is as good as long she keeps a GOOD man, otherwise she's a weak helpless poor unfortunate soul - it has always been this message, whether subliminal or pronounced),,,,,and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged black women I love it when some folks say "I don't want to think, I'm checking my brain at the door when I go see this film" but still have the nerve to complain in the same breath that "there are no good black films left". [Edited 5/28/10 2:52am] It depends on what kind of black films the people want to see. | |
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JackieBlue said: Harlepolis said: Oh please, don't say that You know there's a 50/50 chance that it will. Shiiit, with TP at the helm at LEAST 65/35 | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. I'm medium brown Not too many people care for his films. And I don't care about his billions. Good for him. For a million dollars, I'll put on a wig and shoot at people too. Where do I sign up??? | |
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NastradumasKid said: paisleypark4 said: I dont agree..he plays good roles in his films as himself, so had Jill Scott's husband...in Meet The Browns the good guy was the son also, in The Family That Preys it was the black husband as the good guy, in Madeas Big Happy Family we also saw a combination of positive black male roles..more so all of them. That also goes for Why Did I Get Maried. Dont hate because he fiends for the lightskinned dudes..I just think that is his taste...and also trying to promote interracial dating (TFTP & WDIGM2 & I Can Do Bad All By Myself). Well when a person is doing good there is also a band of people that don't like it so oh well. Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. Did I say ONE THING about him making money? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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phunkdaddy said: Hell Mariah was never colored anyway.
You need to see that heffa when she tours North Africa and those recessive genes come out. When she gets tan and that hair of hers reverts, she gets colored real quick | |
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Ottensen said: phunkdaddy said: Hell Mariah was never colored anyway.
You need to see that heffa when she tours North Africa and those recessive genes come out. When she gets tan and that hair of hers reverts, she gets colored real quick | |
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paisleypark4 said: NastradumasKid said: Always have and always will. He's instilling the black stereotypes...how convinent. And has black actors and actresses actually working again, how convinent. Every American film has a stereotype of SOMETHING. If I put on a Kung Fu movie right now made in Asia I KNOW somebody is going to be eating some rice in the background or something....I can watch a white family comedy and most likely see them in a nice home with two kids and a dog..that is also stereotypical. the good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge ~ Bertrand Russel | |
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Harlepolis said: and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged, church-going black women
Fixed it for ya. To me TP is like the R. Kelly of film making, in a sense. He's found a cheap and predictable formula and a mindless fanbase to keep peddling the same garbage to. And, like R., it works for him in a way that people dare call him a genius. In fact, TP should just remake "Trapped In The Closet" featuring Madea to be a full-length feature film. I bet that shit would gross $100 million the first weekend. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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paisleypark4 said: NastradumasKid said: Oh please don't give me that "Everyone's a Perry hater cause he making money" BS. I don't hate Perry, I just don't necessarily like him or his coonery movies. All I said was if he took the time to be a better director and get better writers, maybe I'll think twice about him. And why would I hate because he has the light-skinned dudes? I'm light-skinned myself, but that's not the point. The point is that I just think you're mad because no one really likes nor care for Perry. Did I say ONE THING about him making money? No but it did seem like you were implying that. And BTW, just because he's black doesn't mean I have to support him. | |
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Adisa said: Harlepolis said: and what kills me is, 90% of his audience consist of middle aged, church-going black women
Fixed it for ya. To me TP is like the R. Kelly of film making, in a sense. He's found a cheap and predictable formula and a mindless fanbase to keep peddling the same garbage to. And, like R., it works for him in a way that people dare call him a genius. In fact, TP should just remake "Trapped In The Closet" featuring Madea to be a full-length feature film. I bet that shit would gross $100 million the first weekend. @ R Kelly comparison. But I see what you mean. I used to like R Kelly, but I still like his music. However, He is NOT a musical genius. | |
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cinnamongal said: paisleypark4 said: And has black actors and actresses actually working again, how convinent. Every American film has a stereotype of SOMETHING. If I put on a Kung Fu movie right now made in Asia I KNOW somebody is going to be eating some rice in the background or something....I can watch a white family comedy and most likely see them in a nice home with two kids and a dog..that is also stereotypical. thank you Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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NastradumasKid said: paisleypark4 said: Did I say ONE THING about him making money? No but it did seem like you were implying that. And BTW, just because he's black doesn't mean I have to support him. I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people. That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them.... Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: NastradumasKid said: No but it did seem like you were implying that. And BTW, just because he's black doesn't mean I have to support him. I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people. That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them.... And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life. | |
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NastradumasKid said: paisleypark4 said: I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people. That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them.... And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life. and no it's not just you I love how his fans love throwing up how much money he's making as if that justifies the bullshit images and stereotypes he's perpetuating. All his financial success still does not mean that his movies are artful or good for black folks' image. By that token, I guess we should ignore the disaster in the gulf cuz BP made tons of money. [Edited 5/28/10 10:02am] | |
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SCNDLS said: NastradumasKid said: And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life. and no it's not just you I love how his fans love throwing up how much money he's making as if that justifies the bullshit images and stereotypes he's perpetuating. All his financial success still does not mean that his movies are artful or good for black folks' image. By that token, I guess we should ignore the disaster in the gulf cuz BP made tons of money. [Edited 5/28/10 10:02am] @ SCNDLS. You're right it's just me, it's a good 90% of the people on this thread who feel the same way. And like you, I do find his movies to be very stereotypical, as if he's trying to bring the old 70s blaxploitation movies back or something. His movies aren't creative, they pretty much follow the same formula/context ever since "Diary of a Mad Black Woman", which is really the only good movie he has ever had. However, I don't hate him, I don't even know him. I just don't like the things he does sometimes. | |
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I'm glad Mariah is not doing this. I can't stand Tyler Perry's movies! He takes good actors and actresses and still can't manage to create one believable character. He basically makes TV movies and people pay to go watch them at the cinema In that sense I think he's hurting Black cinema just as much as he may be helping it. I know a lot of people who refused to watch Precious because he was attached, despite the fact that he wasn't even creatively involved! | |
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