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Reply #30 posted 05/26/10 3:27am

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Not-So-Bionic Christina Aguilera Cancels Tour, Says See You In 2011
Posted Tue May 25, 2010 1:49pm PDT by Chris Willman in Stop The Presses!
Better put a big X through any plans you had to see X-tina. Christina Aguilera has canceled her summer tour just days after it went on sale, citing "prior commitments." Most superstars check their calendars for conflicts in the period of months that a tour is being put together, not after tickets are already going over the counter. Which leads to the inevitable speculation that Aguilera's real commitment is to not playing half-full houses.

Not much word about ticket sales had trickled back before the tour was summarily axed. But initial indicators of ongoing interest in Aguilera this year have not been great. Her latest video, for "Not Myself Tonight," was widely derided in the blogosphere. The single topped out at No. 23 on Billboard's Hot 100; after just five weeks, it's at a very tepid No. 55 on the top-selling digital songs chart.

Bionic will be released on June 8. Pre-release orders on Amazon suggest a moderate level of interest in what was expected to be one of the summer's biggest sellers -- the standard regular edition of her upcoming album, Bionic, is at No. 396, while the slightly more expensive deluxe version is at No. 48.

Emergency triage measures are being taken, of course. A new single,"Woo Hoo," featuring Nicki Minaj, is being released to rhythmic top 40 radio today. Most significantly, Aguilera will perform on the American Idol finale Wednesday night, where it's presumed she'll sing the new, rush-released single and not the DOA "Not Myself Tonight."

Bloggers have seemed eager to turn Aguilera into something of a punching bag lately, pitting her against her supposed successor, Lady Gaga. Christina's oft-repeated, catty-sounding quote about Gaga in Out magazine—"Oh, the newcomer? I think she's really fun to look at"—didn't help in turning the likes of Perez Hilton against the battered, defending dance-pop champ. It might take a great album for Aguilera to pull herself out of this perceived slump... and with Bionic already leaking, it's not taking take long for further buzz to form.



Naturally, Live Nation's statement about the tour postponement simply painted her as a busy bee: "Christina Aguilera's summer tour has been moved to 2011 due to prior commitments that the singer had made to her film ‘Burlesque' and to the promotion of her new album Bionic. The singer felt she needed more time to rehearse the show and with less than a month between the album release and tour date this wasn't possible."

If that's legit, it's hardly the first time someone's put a tour off because an album took longer than expected: Tom Petty also postponed the start of his summer tour after tickets had already gone on sale, citing the need to get his album done first. But Petty's tour was only put back by a month, not to the following calendar year. Fans and detractors alike couldn't help but wonder if a tour isn't the foremost promotion you can do for a new album. And the Burlesque film doesn't come out till November 24, which probably doesn't call for a demanding round of film press duties in July.

To play Aguilera's advocate, her (theoretical) tour probably does involve learning a little more choreography than, say, Tom Petty's. We just have a feeling she'll be doing all that dancing in smaller halls when or if we see her in 2011.

The bigger question raised might be: In a post-Madonna pop world that demands its divas reinvent itself every time they reappear on the scene, how many reinventions does Aguilera have in her? She went from teen-pop queen to "Dirrty" girl, then cleaned herself up—sort of—for her classier Back to Basics in 2006. But lately she's seemed more follower than leader. For the new tracks on her 2008 greatest hits album (which was sold only at Target), she went with the electro movement, territory that Britney and others had long since trodden. She doesn't have Gaga's flagrant willingness to remake herself every 10 seconds, nor Katy Perry's carefree charisma—and you can ask Jennifer Lopez how the whole diva thing is going over these days. In 2010, flogging her sex-bomb appeal again, she seems like a woman without an angle.

You'll have to forgive Aguilera: Commercially speaking, anyway, she's not herself this year.


No one is commercially who they are, and to be honest, this is not a slight to her, no one wants to go see the newer artists on tour. They cant sell out shows, recently i was checking the Billboard boxscore and a-ha's tour, i passed by some dates for ALicia Keys, now the bill is ALicia,Melanie Fiona and Robin Thicke, thats alot of talent and alot of records sold, couldnt sell out a 5,000 seat place, not once, but in 4 different areas that are strong touring states. So its got nothing to do with being commercial for doing a tour.


Newer artists? Xtina's career is 10 years old!
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Reply #31 posted 05/26/10 3:53am

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You know, I'm a much bigger fan of Xtina at this point than Prince, and I'm fed up with all of this. This will be my last post on this forum.

Also, I post on a Michael Jackson forum, and there aren't hundreds of posts dissing a particular artist. And most of the people over there LIKE Xtina. Seems like they have better taste. confused

Regardless...bye bye. I'll still listen to Prince, but FUCK his fans.
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Reply #32 posted 05/26/10 4:51am

novabrkr

teehee
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Reply #33 posted 05/26/10 5:06am

SoulAlive

shipoffools said:

And who cares about touring? The Beatles didn't tour from 1966-1970, until their breakup. And Kate Bush has only had one tour, in 1978, and since then has not toured any of her albums.

Isn't it supposed to be about the music? Who cares if Xtina cancelled her tour? The album still rocks.


Nobody really buys CDs anymore,so if we remove touring from the equation,how would Christina make money? lol Ask Madonna how important touring is.
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Reply #34 posted 05/26/10 5:21am

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I don't know, it might be a good thing if this album and tour bombs. I like Christina but I don't think she has made a great album yet and it might be more likely for her to do so if her career as a pop star ends. It just seems like she could be doing more with her talent. If you look at people like Frank Sinatra and Ella Fitzgerald they arguably reached their peak in their forties so Christina still has a lot of years to make some great music. I just hope that she starts concentrating on quality music rather than commercial success.
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Reply #35 posted 05/26/10 6:03am

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Taylor Swift will never have to reinvent HERself.


Well, she does country. Borefest.


On the one hand, I can see where you're coming from.

But on the other hand, country music is the only music that has songs that can make me laugh.

(On purpose, that is. I laugh at most "rock" and "rap" acts, but not because they want me to.)
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Reply #36 posted 05/26/10 6:18am

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The third or fouth thread about that cocky Mess, really confused

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Reply #37 posted 05/26/10 6:43am

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seeingvoices12 said:

The third or fouth thread about that cocky Mess, really confused

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We kind of need a temporary Christina sticky, just because there's an huge amount of talk about her right now.
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Reply #38 posted 05/26/10 6:43am

ernestsewell

shipoffools said:

You know, I'm a much bigger fan of Xtina at this point than Prince, and I'm fed up with all of this. This will be my last post on this forum.

Also, I post on a Michael Jackson forum, and there aren't hundreds of posts dissing a particular artist. And most of the people over there LIKE Xtina. Seems like they have better taste. confused

Regardless...bye bye. I'll still listen to Prince, but FUCK his fans.

wave See ya!
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Reply #39 posted 05/26/10 7:17am

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ernestsewell said:

seeingvoices12 said:

The third or fouth thread about that cocky Mess, really confused

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We kind of need a temporary Christina sticky, just because there's an huge amount of talk about her right now.


Too much. I was like "really a third Christina thread? REALLY?!" lol
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Reply #40 posted 05/26/10 7:19am

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ernestsewell said:


We kind of need a temporary Christina sticky, just because there's an huge amount of talk about her right now.


Too much. I was like "really a third Christina thread? REALLY?!" lol

Agreed. A sticky would keep the other potentials at bay.
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Reply #41 posted 05/26/10 7:26am

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ernestsewell said:

seeingvoices12 said:

The third or fouth thread about that cocky Mess, really confused

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We kind of need a temporary Christina sticky, just because there's an huge amount of talk about her right now.


I Agree.

Threads flooding For christina mushy confused

The cocky Mess doesn't deserve a half thread...Three? lol
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Reply #42 posted 05/26/10 7:46am

novabrkr

You folks have done did lost yer mind.
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Reply #43 posted 05/26/10 10:08am

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shipoffools said:

You know, I'm a much bigger fan of Xtina at this point than Prince, and I'm fed up with all of this. This will be my last post on this forum.

Also, I post on a Michael Jackson forum, and there aren't hundreds of posts dissing a particular artist. And most of the people over there LIKE Xtina. Seems like they have better taste. confused

Regardless...bye bye. I'll still listen to Prince, but FUCK his fans.

bye bye stan!
You're gonna be sorely disappointed in life if you can't deal with other people's opinions.
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Reply #44 posted 05/26/10 10:46am

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shipoffools said:

You know, I'm a much bigger fan of Xtina at this point than Prince, and I'm fed up with all of this. This will be my last post on this forum.

Also, I post on a Michael Jackson forum, and there aren't hundreds of posts dissing a particular artist. And most of the people over there LIKE Xtina. Seems like they have better taste. confused

Regardless...bye bye. I'll still listen to Prince, but FUCK his fans.

bye bye stan!
You're gonna be sorely disappointed in life if you can't deal with other people's opinions.


You know what, I'm back, and I decided that you're absolutely right. I need to just ignore these people.

Plenty of people diss Prince, and I have the same reaction. And being a Michael Jackson fan after his molestation allegations wasn't easy, either.

I guess I just look up to Xtina as an artist, so I get pissed when people attack her. And this attacking is nothing new...it's just more popular right now, because people can hide it under the "OMG she's copying Lady Gaga!"

Like I said before, she isn't perfect. And I probably wouldn't like her as a person if I met her. Doesn't deny that she's dropped 4 nearly perfect studio albums, a great Christmas album, and a decent Spanish album.
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Reply #45 posted 05/26/10 10:51am

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shipoffools said:

You know what, I'm back, and I decided that you're absolutely right. I need to just ignore these people.

falloff As if you ever left.
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Reply #46 posted 05/26/10 11:01am

midiscover

shipoffools said:

You know, I'm a much bigger fan of Xtina at this point than Prince, and I'm fed up with all of this. This will be my last post on this forum.

Also, I post on a Michael Jackson forum, and there aren't hundreds of posts dissing a particular artist. And most of the people over there LIKE Xtina. Seems like they have better taste. confused

Regardless...bye bye. I'll still listen to Prince, but FUCK his fans.


bahahahaha!!!!
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Reply #47 posted 05/26/10 11:02am

midiscover

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midiscover said:

The album is effing horrible. She deserves all the shit shes getting evillol


I heard the album yesterday and Im just NOT impressed by it.


Chile, its a mess!!

That Gaga reign just won't let up giggle Poor Xtina.
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Reply #48 posted 05/26/10 11:29am

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I haven't bothered listening to any of the new material, can't say I'm really a fan of Christina's music in general - but I do think she has a terrific voice.

But all this negative buzz is starting to remind me of Mariah's fiasco from a year ago.

One you are "Yesterday's News" in the pop-tart world, it's very very difficult to ever come back. It's not always just a matter of coming back with a great record.

Kelly Clarkson dodged a bullet with "My December", but luckily for Kelly her handlers and the record company machine behind her was able to cobble together a tasty product quickly enough to blunt the damage to her long-term career.

We'll see what happens with Christina... but I suspect this is the start of the long downward spiral.
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Reply #49 posted 05/26/10 11:35am

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Well, Michael Jackson had the same declining popularity. Dangerous was really his last 'high selling album', after that it was all downhill.

Pop artist or no pop artist, I listen to Christina for the MUSIC. I wouldn't care if she never shot another music video, or went on tour, or made appearances, as long as she keeps on churning out new material. Obviously, I'm in the minority, because a lot of pop stars are taken as the whole package (which includes music videos, touring, and the like.) I just...as a musician, I just don't care about that stuff.

I bought the new album because I genuinely like the songs. Same with Michael Jackson's Invincible; as much of a flop as an album is, if I like the music, I don't care what other people think about it.

I mean, look at The Rainbow Children. Prince's most unpopular album, in terms of record sales, yet that's my favorite Prince album.

I think, when you're a serious musician, you tend to care less about hits and more about putting out a good ALBUM. Christina even said something to that effect in a recent interview for Bionic.
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Reply #50 posted 05/26/10 11:37am

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shipoffools said:

Christina even said something to that effect in a recent interview for Bionic.


Very logical statement for her to make at this point.
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Reply #51 posted 05/26/10 11:50am

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lastdecember said:



Honestly i dont know, but she seems like there is an ego, but again if she were a man it wouldnt be an issue, i mean Elton,Prince,Sting,John Mellencamp,Bono etc..all have tremendous attitudes but also back it up with their amazing talents, and she is talented but as a woman, with attitude, shes a bitch to the public and that is the way its always been with females


WTF eek disbelief



Seriously. Nonsensical Haterade flowin' freely in this thread.
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Reply #52 posted 05/26/10 12:05pm

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Poor Christina....she's talented with such a powerful voice yet she finds herself in the land of the lost; Valley of the T&A. Talent means shit these days for female artists. Just ask Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga and Ciara.
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Reply #53 posted 05/26/10 12:19pm

novabrkr

So Lady Gaga became successful because of... her looks or something?
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Reply #54 posted 05/26/10 12:21pm

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Heeey! What was wrong with that last Ciara video? I Liked it.




Yeeeahhhh... definitely like. biggrin lol
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Reply #55 posted 05/26/10 12:24pm

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novabrkr said:

So Lady Gaga became successful because of... her looks or something?


She became famous for her outrageous statements/wardrobe/actions. Not because of her music, which is pretty bland, but because she's 'shocking.'

I mean, look at that Telephone video. 4 mins stretched over 9 minutes, and all about murdering people. THAT'S what people are talking about, her craziness, not because she's particularly talented.
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Reply #56 posted 05/26/10 12:29pm

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shipoffools said:

novabrkr said:

So Lady Gaga became successful because of... her looks or something?


She became famous for her outrageous statements/wardrobe/actions. Not because of her music, which is pretty bland, but because she's 'shocking.'

I mean, look at that Telephone video. 4 mins stretched over 9 minutes, and all about murdering people. THAT'S what people are talking about, her craziness, not because she's particularly talented.



yeahthat
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Reply #57 posted 05/26/10 12:36pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

shipoffools said:



She became famous for her outrageous statements/wardrobe/actions. Not because of her music, which is pretty bland, but because she's 'shocking.'

I mean, look at that Telephone video. 4 mins stretched over 9 minutes, and all about murdering people. THAT'S what people are talking about, her craziness, not because she's particularly talented.



yeahthat


Co-sign. The outfits and videos make Gaga. Without them she would be BORING.
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Reply #58 posted 05/26/10 12:44pm

novabrkr

Eh, not really.

"Pokerface" was a major hit in the radio on a global scale even before most people even knew what she looked like. It's another thing if you like that song, but its success was not based on her looks. In fact, her image was quite different in the beginning. Look at the videos for her first singles - she's more like a European dance music performer in those.
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Reply #59 posted 05/26/10 12:52pm

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Her success is a mystery of the universe. There is no logical explanation for something so inanely unremarkable being so popular.
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