RnBAmbassador said: BlaqueKnight said: Define "best"
It wouldn't include repetitive Ernie Isley - geez is he overrated I would hardly label Ernie Isley overrated especially since he learned his craft from who many consider to be the best in Jimi Hendrix. And furthermore i don't recall anyone saying Ernie was the best. It was said he is a beast. And even if Ernie was doing the same solo over like you claim it's still pretty damn good. Don't laugh at my funk
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this dude is pretty cool | |
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Hummm.....that is a loaded question but I'd go with:
Prince Buckethead Jimi Hazel Jessie Johnson Carlos Santana Jef Johnson | |
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Graycap23 said: Hummm.....that is a loaded question but I'd go with:
Prince Buckethead Jimi Hazel Jessie Johnson Carlos Santana Jef Johnson It is a loaded question but Jimi Hazel certainly should be in the discussion. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: It is a loaded question.. That was my point. If you are going to have a "best" discussion, you have to have an understanding of what criteria determines "best". | |
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PurpleDiamond2009 said: this dude is pretty cool You gotta be kidding ain't yer? All that technical ability with shreddin' and delay doesn't make for interesting compositions but abhorrent aesthetics. | |
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hey i dont know anythng about guitar the only song i heard from him was Jordan off of Guitar Hero and i thought it was cool so yeah lol | |
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But the kfc bucket ain't too stylish either, what the fuck's up with him? is it what becomes of Axl's croneys? | |
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Dweezil Zappa is a wonderful player. Tasteful and intricate over a wealth of styles and tones.
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I can't say who is best, but I'd rather listen to John Mayer than that John 5 guy. Warren Haynes is a bad, bad mf. Personally, I love Jack White. Clapton and Beck for sure. Prince is great but he seems to have finally hit a wall as far as creativity goes (only took, like, thirty years - and he still writes better songs than most anybody on Erf). A ton of jazz and metal guys that nobody knows by name. Santana has a BEAUTIFUL sound and I still dig his music, but dude isn't nearly as good a player as he used to be. [Edited 5/19/10 22:31pm] | |
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vikings said: Dweezil Zappa is a wonderful player. Tasteful and intricate over a wealth of styles and tones.
Check out ZPZ [Edited 5/19/10 22:22pm] Yeah, Dweezil is a great guitar player. I saw the Zappa Plays Zappa concert live and I also own the DVD. | |
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nursev said: Must we do this
Great picture - and of course great guitarist - but I hate to see such a lovely looking Stratocaster ruined with one of those hideous Floyd Rose trems. Yeeeew. Even if I weren't a total whammy-ophobe (I block mine off), I'd much prefer a vintage trem than one of those double-locking monstrosities. This is not an exit | |
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rocknrolldave said: nursev said:
Great picture - and of course great guitarist - but I hate to see such a lovely looking Stratocaster ruined with one of those hideous Floyd Rose trems. Yeeeew. Even if I weren't a total whammy-ophobe (I block mine off), I'd much prefer a vintage trem than one of those double-locking monstrosities. I could not agree more! I was actually thinking about this at work a few hours ago. Prince must use a Floyd because a standard Fender trem just pulls the whole shit out of tune (doesn't it?) but still - Floyd Roses are SO 1985. I think Lace pickups are gay as well. | |
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Phil Keaggy (who's a nice guy, to boot)
Jeff Beck | |
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abigail05 said: rocknrolldave said: nursev said:
Great picture - and of course great guitarist - but I hate to see such a lovely looking Stratocaster ruined with one of those hideous Floyd Rose trems. Yeeeew. Even if I weren't a total whammy-ophobe (I block mine off), I'd much prefer a vintage trem than one of those double-locking monstrosities. I could not agree more! I was actually thinking about this at work a few hours ago. Prince must use a Floyd because a standard Fender trem just pulls the whole shit out of tune (doesn't it?) but still - Floyd Roses are SO 1985. I think Lace pickups are gay as well. YES! I hate the look of those blank pickup covers without the pole-pieces sticking out. Just looks wrong to me, like a face with no eyes or something..although I admit I have no idea what they sound like, so this is purely an aesthetic judgement! (Didn't Clapton use them at one point..? Euch, not a tone I'd want to replicate myself in that case....) EDIT: oh and yeah, the vintage trem is for the lighter touch only, not Prince in full on Fury/ Peach mode. Mind, Gilmour manages OK with the deep dives at the start of Sorrow..so maybe if they're set up right they're fine..? Could be worse, could be a Bigsby..now they ARE "light wobbles only" territory! [Edited 5/20/10 8:48am] This is not an exit | |
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Those strat pickup coverings are many times, lace sensor pickups, which Prince has been known to use. Its likely that they are. As for the Floyd Rose, no one with a decent set of eyes would put one on a strat, so its got to be a custom job. That is hideous.
BUT... We are drifting off topic. Back to the guitar greats..... | |
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Graycap23 said: Hummm.....that is a loaded question but I'd go with:
Prince Buckethead Jimi Hazel Jessie Johnson Carlos Santana Jef Johnson I forgot about him, def an underrated musician. Had it not been for the solo work in the extended mixes, I probably would've never given his earlier hits the time of day. To me, Bare My Naked Soul and Verbal Penetration are what REALLY sat him apart from Prince's camp,,,,both albums could def speak for themselves I'm still trying to track down his b-sides from "Naked Soul" though thesexofit made mentions of them couple of months ago. | |
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paligap said: ...
I think all I can really say is "favorite"--- it's too subjective, and everybody's looking for something different when they listen to music----it all comes down to what moves you, and in the end, that has very little to do with how much technique a player has, or doesn't have..... I have a bunch of favorites , and they all probably vary widely in range and playing ability, but they all make me feel something special....but anyway, here are some of my favorites... Allan Holdsworth Jean Paul Bourelly Wayne Krantz Jeff Beck Carlos Santana Ernie Isley Kazumi Watanabe Pat Metheny Prince Lewis Taylor Jimi Hazel Larry Carlton Bill Nelson Nile Rodgers Ray Gomez Kevin Eubanks David Gilmore Corrado Rusticci Dwayne 'Blackbird' Mcknight Jef Lee Johnson Wayne Johnson Chielli Minucci Michael Gregory .... [Edited 5/18/10 15:40pm] Where the fuck is Eric Claption? | |
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dseann said: Where the fuck is Eric Claption? This isn't Rolling Stone's list. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: dseann said: Where the fuck is Eric Claption? This isn't Rolling Stone's list. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: dseann said: Where the fuck is Eric Claption? This isn't Rolling Stone's list. | |
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dseann said: BlaqueKnight said: This isn't Rolling Stone's list. Yeah, make your own list of favorites!!!! ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Those strat pickup coverings are many times, lace sensor pickups, which Prince has been known to use. Its likely that they are. As for the Floyd Rose, no one with a decent set of eyes would put one on a strat, so its got to be a custom job. That is hideous.
BUT... We are drifting off topic. Back to the guitar greats..... About the pickups, unless he's changed up fairly recently they're probably EMG's. From all accounts I've read about his rig he's used the SA,85 combo on his main stage guitars since the Purple Rain era. Not saying he's never used Lace Sensors, they're good pickups. I've never read any mention of them being used. I have the Silver, Silver, Blue set in my Strat-Plus. [Edited 5/20/10 12:57pm] | |
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paligap said: ...
I think all I can really say is "favorite"--- it's too subjective, and everybody's looking for something different when they listen to music----it all comes down to what moves you, and in the end, that has very little to do with how much technique a player has, or doesn't have..... I have a bunch of favorites , and they all probably vary widely in range and playing ability, but they all make me feel something special....but anyway, here are some of my favorites... Allan Holdsworth Jean Paul Bourelly Wayne Krantz Jeff Beck Carlos Santana Ernie Isley Kazumi Watanabe Pat Metheny Prince Lewis Taylor Jimi Hazel Larry Carlton Bill Nelson Nile Rodgers Ray Gomez Kevin Eubanks David Gilmore Corrado Rusticci Dwayne 'Blackbird' Mcknight Jef Lee Johnson Wayne Johnson Chielli Minucci Michael Gregory .... [Edited 5/18/10 15:40pm] + 1! Nice cross section of musicians on your list. | |
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Slash..Angus Young..
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kstrat said: + 1! Nice cross section of musicians on your list. Thanks ! Again, different styles and ability, but they all make me nod my head when they get going...but I couldn't begin to sit here and say who's "best".... ...and yeah, guys like Clapton, Mclaughlin, DiMeola, SRV, Satriani...all are legendary, and I certainly respect all those guys.... but my list is just personal favorites.... ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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hmmm...well let's talk about the greats that I rarely ever see (or read) any write-ups in many the guitar rags..
Jessie Johnson Eddie Hazel Mike Hampton Blackbyrd James "Blood" Ulmer Ernie Isley Wayne Krantz Micheal Landau Kendall Jones (Fishbone) Spacey T Victor Johnson James Nolan Tommy Bolin Jean Paul Bourelly Micheal Gregory Felicia Collins Ronnie Drayton Gordon Gaines Arthur Rhames (big influence on Vernon) Dr. Know Cornell Dupree Hillel Slovak Wah Wah Watson ..I know they're not "popular" in the record sales world, but they're all great and unique. | |
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paligap said: ...
I think all I can really say is "favorite"--- it's too subjective, and everybody's looking for something different when they listen to music----it all comes down to what moves you, and in the end, that has very little to do with how much technique a player has, or doesn't have..... I have a bunch of favorites , and they all probably vary widely in range and playing ability, but they all make me feel something special....but anyway, here are some of my favorites... Allan Holdsworth Jean Paul Bourelly Wayne Krantz Jeff Beck Carlos Santana Ernie Isley Kazumi Watanabe Pat Metheny Prince Lewis Taylor Jimi Hazel Larry Carlton Bill Nelson Nile Rodgers Ray Gomez Kevin Eubanks David Gilmore Corrado Rusticci Dwayne 'Blackbird' Mcknight Jef Lee Johnson Wayne Johnson Chielli Minucci Michael Gregory .... You've listed most of my favorites so i'll expand a bit. Johnny Smith (alive/retired) George Benson (pre-Breezin') B.B. King Steve Vai Greg Howe Michael Landau Kirk Fletcher Robben Ford Albert Lee Tommy Emmanuel Bill Frisell John Scofield Mike Stern Lionel Loueke Maybe more later as I think about them. The "best living guitarist" is probably someone no one knows. And I agree that these "best whatever" questions are pretty pointless without any specific parameters. Music for adventurous listeners tA Tribal Records [Edited 5/20/10 15:00pm] "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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