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PrintableSoulAlive said: Complaining about music piracy is sooooo 2001,lol.Fiddy is late to this party.Funny,I didn't hear him bitching about file-sharing in 2003,when he was actually selling alot of CDs.Now that his CDs aren't selling anymore,he suddenly decides to take a stand against piracy?! How convenient
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vainandy said: Since the mainstream is filled with nothing but so-called artists like him, I'm all for music piracy because it seems that the only way to eliminate the trash is to run them and their labels broke.
If shit hop ever dies, then I'll be against music piracy but until that day, keep on downloading people and don't just download, but make copies of the CDs for anyone that likes it such as nephews, neices, and their friends also. Every little bit helps in running the bastards broke.  Yeah, not really gonna happen though, I doubt their making tons by selling music anyway..no-one is apparently. "I know that living with u baby, was sometimes hard...but I'm willing 2 give it another try.
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SoulAlive said: Complaining about music piracy is sooooo 2001,lol.Fiddy is late to this party.Funny,I didn't hear him bitching about file-sharing in 2003,when he was actually selling alot of CDs.Now that his CDs aren't selling anymore,he suddenly decides to take a stand against piracy?! How convenient
Folks are stealing his music? Boo hoo,cry me a river Those folks should be jailed for bad taste! | |
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BlaqueKnight said: missmad said: it was a first reaction call- i may be wrong what is the big deal...SEEMS people SEEMS. difference between he's smart and he seems smart
Actually, contrary to popular belief - he is, somewhat. Curtis is a very calculating person. Most importantly, he is a good manipulator. He makes use of his resources. He doesn't know jack shit about music and neither do the people around him, so in every conversation/interview about music - he defers it to money, units sold, etc. He listens to smart people and what they have to say, then he repeats it, which makes him SEEM smarter than he is. Everyone under him is far too dumb to take his place or threaten his position and everyone over him (Jimmy Iovine, etc.) use his image to make them money, which he goes along with because he likes money. He's certainly not an artist or an entertainer. His only marketable skill is selling his personality, which is what he does. So, he's not a dummy by any stretch. He's also not a genius or mastermind of any kind. He just has a talent for manipulation. That takes a small degree of smarts.  . Just had to respond to that cause people were posting my original post and then something else, and people r entittled to post whateva they want but it made me feel dumb and that I am not. | |
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Identity said: The rapper added that he believes things will start changing when piracy really begins to impact on the movie business. He declared that he could see things altering “when you got your blockbuster film doing $120 million in a weekend and then that blockbuster film that they spent $120 million comes out and nobody goes to see but everybody watched it because they could pull it off their computer and see it on HD at home on a theatre. They'll change those laws".
When???
"When" is three or four years ago. He's obviously unfamiliar with compressed-yet-HD x264 video files. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: SoulAlive said: Complaining about music piracy is sooooo 2001,lol.Fiddy is late to this party.Funny,I didn't hear him bitching about file-sharing in 2003,when he was actually selling alot of CDs.Now that his CDs aren't selling anymore,he suddenly decides to take a stand against piracy?! How convenient
Folks are stealing his music? Boo hoo,cry me a river Those folks should be jailed for bad taste! | |
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BlaqueKnight said: "I had the nigga that shot me three times killed, but I won't dare download anybody's CD"
How gangsta of him. Somebody tell Gangstalicious here he's doing it wrong. [Edited 4/28/10 14:43pm]  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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I think you are too hard on the guy. His album flopped fine but the comparisons with Jay-Z and Eminem are misplaced. Those are the two best-selling rap artists of the last decade and not your average rapper. And can you honestly say that their last albums (which sold 2m each) are really that much better quality-wise than 'Before I Self Destruct'? If 50 is flopping and those two are not is not because of quality of music but because of image, promotion, reputation, fanbase, celebrity status etc etc
Eminem, for a start, is more of a pop star than a hip-hop star meaning that his fan base is mostly or at least 50% outside the hip-hop crowd. As for Jay-Z he needed a dreadfull cover of an 80s classic and Rihanna and Alicia Keys duets to score hits. As for the downloading part I don't think he said anything any other artist hasn't said. He just said it too late. [Edited 4/30/10 3:59am] | |
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No he gets his just desserts. He's the LAST person to tell us about that shit. If he's so concerned about piracy then he needs to stop lying about being a gangster. | |
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The thing is that artists like 50 and ones that are used to going platnum they cant just deal with slagging sales, people just dont get it, music is fucking dead, plain and simple, deal with it, people in masses DONT WANT IT, and feel they have dont have to pay for it because the technology is set up to steal it, and save the BULL about artists sucking so i can steal it, grow the fuck up with that excuse, if something sucks that bad i dont want it free or purchased. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: The thing is that artists like 50 and ones that are used to going platnum they cant just deal with slagging sales, people just dont get it, music is fucking dead, plain and simple, deal with it, people in masses DONT WANT IT, and feel they have dont have to pay for it because the technology is set up to steal it, and save the BULL about artists sucking so i can steal it, grow the fuck up with that excuse, if something sucks that bad i dont want it free or purchased.
I think its a stretch to even call him an artist, but record sales mean absolutely NOTHING, they mean NOTHING. A lot of albums that are viewed as classics today, didn't sell well when first released. But now with the technology that we have, its even harder to make a dent on the charts. Until the music industry as a whole, restructures and reformats the way it operates, i.e. reducing prices of CD's, then nothing will change. They expect you to pay $15+ for 10 songs, out of which only 3 are good, then they wonder why no one wants to spend their hard earned money on their product in the economic climate that we find ourselves in.  Lady Cab Driver is one of the greatest songs ever! | |
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mrpunkfunk said: lastdecember said: The thing is that artists like 50 and ones that are used to going platnum they cant just deal with slagging sales, people just dont get it, music is fucking dead, plain and simple, deal with it, people in masses DONT WANT IT, and feel they have dont have to pay for it because the technology is set up to steal it, and save the BULL about artists sucking so i can steal it, grow the fuck up with that excuse, if something sucks that bad i dont want it free or purchased.
I think its a stretch to even call him an artist, but record sales mean absolutely NOTHING, they mean NOTHING. A lot of albums that are viewed as classics today, didn't sell well when first released. But now with the technology that we have, its even harder to make a dent on the charts. Until the music industry as a whole, restructures and reformats the way it operates, i.e. reducing prices of CD's, then nothing will change. They expect you to pay $15+ for 10 songs, out of which only 3 are good, then they wonder why no one wants to spend their hard earned money on their product in the economic climate that we find ourselves in. Well classics and sales never have gone hand in hand, maybe in the 80's that was true, but surely not the 70's, alot of the best albums were barely gold, and for the record gold was big back then, so i dont really see why people are talking sales, back then this was the norm, but the bigger picture is that MUSIC lost its importance to the masses, you used to have educated people in music that were filtering what was getting pushed and developed, now everyone is like "tell whats good" no one has a mind. The industry itself is not going to change its business, its just going to shrink it big time because labels cant afford these big rosters of artists, and at the end of the day cut loose are going to be artists that dont sell, and dont have a push. The USA is the market that has no clue, other markets are still thriving and tours are doing well, more so overseas where music seems to be more important than here "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: mrpunkfunk said: I think its a stretch to even call him an artist, but record sales mean absolutely NOTHING, they mean NOTHING. A lot of albums that are viewed as classics today, didn't sell well when first released. But now with the technology that we have, its even harder to make a dent on the charts. Until the music industry as a whole, restructures and reformats the way it operates, i.e. reducing prices of CD's, then nothing will change. They expect you to pay $15+ for 10 songs, out of which only 3 are good, then they wonder why no one wants to spend their hard earned money on their product in the economic climate that we find ourselves in. Well classics and sales never have gone hand in hand, maybe in the 80's that was true, but surely not the 70's, alot of the best albums were barely gold, and for the record gold was big back then, so i dont really see why people are talking sales, back then this was the norm, but the bigger picture is that MUSIC lost its importance to the masses, you used to have educated people in music that were filtering what was getting pushed and developed, now everyone is like "tell whats good" no one has a mind. The industry itself is not going to change its business, its just going to shrink it big time because labels cant afford these big rosters of artists, and at the end of the day cut loose are going to be artists that dont sell, and dont have a push. The USA is the market that has no clue, other markets are still thriving and tours are doing well, more so overseas where music seems to be more important than here true, I atribute part of this to the age restrictions that have been put on the newer 'artists'. back in the day, it didn't matter how old you were, talent was talent, now if your older than 28 then you're written off before you sing your first note. Prince, MJ, and Stevie Wonder were the exception to the rule because they came into the industry as youth. Now, unless your 18 and have sex appeal, no label will push you. I think we need to get back to the days where Talent was the trump card, not 'Bone-ability' i.e. sex appeal. Because at the end of the day, how much life experience can the average 22 year old share with the world. Remember how old the Staples Singers were? their father must've been like 60 back in the '70's. I would guess the average musicians age was 30-35 back in the 60's and 70's. Lady Cab Driver is one of the greatest songs ever! | |
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mrpunkfunk said: lastdecember said: Well classics and sales never have gone hand in hand, maybe in the 80's that was true, but surely not the 70's, alot of the best albums were barely gold, and for the record gold was big back then, so i dont really see why people are talking sales, back then this was the norm, but the bigger picture is that MUSIC lost its importance to the masses, you used to have educated people in music that were filtering what was getting pushed and developed, now everyone is like "tell whats good" no one has a mind. The industry itself is not going to change its business, its just going to shrink it big time because labels cant afford these big rosters of artists, and at the end of the day cut loose are going to be artists that dont sell, and dont have a push. The USA is the market that has no clue, other markets are still thriving and tours are doing well, more so overseas where music seems to be more important than here true, I atribute part of this to the age restrictions that have been put on the newer 'artists'. back in the day, it didn't matter how old you were, talent was talent, now if your older than 28 then you're written off before you sing your first note. Prince, MJ, and Stevie Wonder were the exception to the rule because they came into the industry as youth. Now, unless your 18 and have sex appeal, no label will push you. I think we need to get back to the days where Talent was the trump card, not 'Bone-ability' i.e. sex appeal. Because at the end of the day, how much life experience can the average 22 year old share with the world. Remember how old the Staples Singers were? their father must've been like 60 back in the '70's. I would guess the average musicians age was 30-35 back in the 60's and 70's. Well thats it right there for the most part. People will say when the industry was at its high, late 90's to 2000 it was the "teens" that were doing it, well true, to an extent, but parents were buying the records for the kids, had technology been that advanced then, you would have seen lower sales. U cant market things to kids, they are the worst fan base, they change their mind one day to the next, which means you have to have a new artist every day for the "kids", well thats why you have what you have running the show and labels "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: mrpunkfunk said: true, I atribute part of this to the age restrictions that have been put on the newer 'artists'. back in the day, it didn't matter how old you were, talent was talent, now if your older than 28 then you're written off before you sing your first note. Prince, MJ, and Stevie Wonder were the exception to the rule because they came into the industry as youth. Now, unless your 18 and have sex appeal, no label will push you. I think we need to get back to the days where Talent was the trump card, not 'Bone-ability' i.e. sex appeal. Because at the end of the day, how much life experience can the average 22 year old share with the world. Remember how old the Staples Singers were? their father must've been like 60 back in the '70's. I would guess the average musicians age was 30-35 back in the 60's and 70's. Well thats it right there for the most part. People will say when the industry was at its high, late 90's to 2000 it was the "teens" that were doing it, well true, to an extent, but parents were buying the records for the kids, had technology been that advanced then, you would have seen lower sales. U cant market things to kids, they are the worst fan base, they change their mind one day to the next, which means you have to have a new artist every day for the "kids", well thats why you have what you have running the show and labels That is true, kids do have the most disposable income. Lady Cab Driver is one of the greatest songs ever! | |
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