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let it be ( beatles album) What are youre thoughts on let it be album ?
is it all that bad ? is it all phill spectors work of magic ? is it over rated or under rated ? please discuss ( i dont own it yet) | |
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motownlover said: What are youre thoughts on let it be album ?
is it all that bad ? is it all phill spectors work of magic ? is it over rated or under rated ? please discuss ( i dont own it yet) It is not bad, I just perfer, "Abbey Road". "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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not really fond of it , frankly | |
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It's a mess, and could have been much better, but then again, that's the charm of the album: it's the work of 4 man who just couldn't get along any longer, but still capable of writing classics like the title-track, Across the Universe, Dig a Pony, Two of Us, etc.
and the Spector's production is just perfect for decadent and sad vibe of the whole record... and, overall, it's better than Beatles for Sale, so it's not their worst album, at least for me... [Edited 4/27/10 12:58pm]  | |
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JoeTyler said: It's a mess, and could have been much better, but then again, that's the charm of the album: it's the work of 4 man who just couldn't get along any longer, but still capable of writing classics like the title-track, Across the Universe, Dig a Pony, Two of Us, etc.
and the Spector's production is just perfect for decadent and sad vibe of the whole record... and, overall, it's better than Beatles for Sale, so it's not their worst album, at least for me... [Edited 4/27/10 12:58pm] I'm with Sir Paul on this 1. I 2 like the original better without all the syrupy violin orchestra crap! | |
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Smittyrock70 said: JoeTyler said: It's a mess, and could have been much better, but then again, that's the charm of the album: it's the work of 4 man who just couldn't get along any longer, but still capable of writing classics like the title-track, Across the Universe, Dig a Pony, Two of Us, etc.
and the Spector's production is just perfect for decadent and sad vibe of the whole record... and, overall, it's better than Beatles for Sale, so it's not their worst album, at least for me... [Edited 4/27/10 12:58pm] I'm with Sir Paul on this 1. I 2 like the original better without all the syrupy violin orchestra crap! Ok, that just pisses me off  ; Phil Spector was, by a mile, the best producer of the first half of the 60s, and I don't give a shit if Paul didn't like his style (Long and Winding Road truly benefits from Phil's production, anyway); it's curious how bad Let It Be was for Phil's reputation...
I know he's crazy and shit, but reading "Phil Spector" and "crap" on the same line is fuckin' irritating... | |
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the weird thing about this album for me is that I don't mind Spector's much maligned production at all and I think it really adds something beautiful to it. what I don't care for is the fact that even after the entire recording and filming sessions had imploded, that every version of this album assembled still tried to capture the loose vibe of the recording and be a soundtrack, instead of trying salvage it and make a "real" album out of it. | |
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Smittyrock70 said: JoeTyler said: It's a mess, and could have been much better, but then again, that's the charm of the album: it's the work of 4 man who just couldn't get along any longer, but still capable of writing classics like the title-track, Across the Universe, Dig a Pony, Two of Us, etc.
and the Spector's production is just perfect for decadent and sad vibe of the whole record... and, overall, it's better than Beatles for Sale, so it's not their worst album, at least for me... [Edited 4/27/10 12:58pm] I'm with Sir Paul on this 1. I 2 like the original better without all the syrupy violin orchestra crap! Oh please. if there was a Beatle that was more about syrupy crap than Paul, I'd like for him to be named. What Spector did to TLAWR and the rest of that album is the kind of thing Paul lives for. he's just pissed that someone went and did it without him after he quit the band. and it isn't like the Beatles hadn't used violin orchestration previously. it's just a case of sour grapes for the last 40 years. I mean, the title track of the album was already syrupy before Spector ever became involved in the album. [Edited 4/27/10 17:03pm] | |
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^ nonsense | |
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Dewrede said: ^ nonsense
Paul's the corniest mf on the planet and his criticisms of what Spector did with that material have never rung true to me. LIB and TLAWR are sappy for sure (and great), but that has more to do with the words and music as written than anything to do with the production. | |
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It's a bit of a hodgepodge. Some throwaway tracks, but Beatles throwaway tracks are still essential. It's important for what it represents - the band cracking and splitting apart.
I think Spector really has been demonized unfairly. He had to do something to salvage the performances and put together a coherent album. The version of "Long and Winding Road" used was basically just a run through with a good vocal performance, but lots of mistakes musically. It was a rough take. John was playing bass and flubbed it throughout. Spector had to do something to hide all the problems with it. The better listening experience is Let It Be... Naked, which is more a true representation of the album the Beatles intended to create. From a material standpoint, like I said it's a hodgepodge. John really only had one contribution, and while "Dig a Pony" is interesting its hardly essential. ("Across the Universe" was an older song that had already been released in a slightly different version). George's contributions were comparatively minor - "I Me Mine" and "For You Blue" are hardly major works in the Beatles catalog. Paul had the best material, and the most - 3 timeless classic singles in "Get Back", "Let it Be" and "The Long and Winding Road" along with "I've Got a Feeling" and "Two of Us", also both strong tracks. He was still trying at least, when everyone else seemed to have thrown in the towel, or were going thru the motions. It's a weird album in that it's a bit of a compilation really. There were several different versions of it before it was finally put together by Spector and released. I think they could have made it stronger by dropping the segues (Dig It, Maggie Mae), dropping "Across the Universe" - which is a great song but really out of place here - and adding "Don't Let Me Down," which was recorded during these sessions. I like the fact that they resurrected "One After 909" - sorta full circle, taking an early Beatles unreleased song and recording it at the end of their lifespan as a band. It's fascinating to hear both versions back to back, how much they changed in such a short time span. Ultimately I agree its more about what it could have been; but it's still the Beatles, and it's still magic. Definitely not the least of their albums, but not really the triumphant swan-song that they deserved. That was really "Abbey Road" which was obviously recorded later but released prior. [Edited 4/27/10 17:40pm] * * *
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JoeTyler said: It's a mess, and could have been much better, but then again, that's the charm of the album: it's the work of 4 man who just couldn't get along any longer, but still capable of writing classics like the title-track, Across the Universe, Dig a Pony, Two of Us, etc.
and the Spector's production is just perfect for decadent and sad vibe of the whole record... and, overall, it's better than Beatles for Sale, so it's not their worst album, at least for me... [Edited 4/27/10 12:58pm] Agreed, and I like how you described Spector's production - - true true true. * * *
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NoVideo said: Ultimately I agree its more about what it could have been; but it's still the Beatles, and it's still magic. Definitely not the least of their albums, but not really the triumphant swan-song that they deserved. That was really "Abbey Road" which was obviously recorded later but released prior. [Edited 4/27/10 17:37pm] 
It's AMAZING that they still had the passion and self control to release Abbey Road (their true swan-song), specially after the tragic Let It Be sessions... The Beatles were truly special... 
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JoeTyler said: NoVideo said: Ultimately I agree its more about what it could have been; but it's still the Beatles, and it's still magic. Definitely not the least of their albums, but not really the triumphant swan-song that they deserved. That was really "Abbey Road" which was obviously recorded later but released prior. [Edited 4/27/10 17:37pm]
It's AMAZING that they still had the passion and self control to release Abbey Road (their true swan-song), specially after the tragic Let It Be sessions... The Beatles were truly special...
Very true - - it's a miracle "Abbey Road" got made at all, let alone has amazing it came out. I think they all realized that it would be their last album and they wanted to end with something really strong. * * *
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JoeTyler said: It's a mess, and could have been much better, but then again, that's the charm of the album: it's the work of 4 man who just couldn't get along any longer, but still capable of writing classics like the title-track, Across the Universe, Dig a Pony, Two of Us, etc.
and the Spector's production is just perfect for decadent and sad vibe of the whole record... and, overall, it's better than Beatles for Sale, so it's not their worst album, at least for me... I can see why a lot of folks don't care much for Beatles For Sale, but I think it's a really satisfying transitional record. No Reply, Baby's In Black, I'll Follow The Sun, Eight Days A Week, What You're Doing, and their covers of RNR Music and Words of Love kick my butt! | |
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As i gotten into the beatles while i was in college (2005-2009) I only got into this album through the NAKED version.
I love the album, but its kind of sad to listen to because i know it was truly the end. and that sadness rings through that album. even during the happy songs. TWO OF US is one of my favorite songs, period. b/c it reminds me of me and my best friend from college. but we fell out now so. yeah.... great album though. but not better than abbey road. | |
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Nvncible1 said: As i gotten into the beatles while i was in college (2005-2009) I only got into this album through the NAKED version.
I love the album, but its kind of sad to listen to because i know it was truly the end. and that sadness rings through that album. even during the happy songs. TWO OF US is one of my favorite songs, period. b/c it reminds me of me and my best friend from college. but we fell out now so. yeah.... great album though. but not better than abbey road. yeah. this song tears me up a little bit.  | |
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errant said: Smittyrock70 said: I'm with Sir Paul on this 1. I 2 like the original better without all the syrupy violin orchestra crap! Oh please. if there was a Beatle that was more about syrupy crap than Paul, I'd like for him to be named. What Spector did to TLAWR and the rest of that album is the kind of thing Paul lives for. he's just pissed that someone went and did it without him after he quit the band. and it isn't like the Beatles hadn't used violin orchestration previously. it's just a case of sour grapes for the last 40 years. I mean, the title track of the album was already syrupy before Spector ever became involved in the album. I couldn't agree more. It still floors me that Paul would actually complain about those strings."Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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