IMO J&L were the better producers but LA & Face were the better songwriters, if that makes sense to anyone. I think the songs they wrote (or Face by himself) will stand the test of time better than songs written by J & L.

LaFace already sound dated though lol I don't think Jimmy and Terry had a signature sound the way LaFace did (because J&T were more versatile) making it difficult to pin them to one decade.

hard choice but i'll give it to jam and lewis...

babysinister said:

Couldnt agreee with you more

Jam & Lewis have delivered consistantly over a long period of time.

Gamble & Huffs contribution to soul music is priceless, what they acheived was truely amazing

Wut about Tricky and The Dream?

Stargate...



...Mikkel Eriksen & Tor Hermansen


Wizards in the Studio, Anonymous on the Street - Ben Sisario

As three more songs that had been written in the last 24 hours blared from enormous speakers, the producers sat calmly, waiting to hear which superstars their songs would be pitched to. But they weren’t the Neptunes or Timbaland or Dr. Dre or anyone else ardent followers of the Top 40 would be likely to recognize. They were Tor Erik Hermansen and Mikkel S. Eriksen, wholesome-looking, milk-complexioned Norwegians who, despite having no public persona, have quickly become two of the most in-demand figures in pop music.

http://www.nytimes.com/20...6sisa.html
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The Stargate Writing & Production Team - Paul Tingen

Since 2006, Norwegian songwriting and production duo Stargate have been storming charts around the world. In the US alone, they have enjoyed a staggering 21 top 10 hits during the last four years. Since their US breakthrough with Ne-Yo’s ‘So Sick’, they have become first-call songwriters and producers for American R&B and pop acts such as Beyoncé, Rihanna, Lionel Richie, Chris Brown, Jennifer Hudson, Flo Rida, Mary J Blige, and many others. Stargate now have a room in Jay-Z’s prestigious Roc-the-Mic studio in New York, and have also joined forces with the rapper in a publishing company and record label called StarRoc.
Stargate’s ascendancy to the top of the American music scene came off the back of a lengthy involvement in the European music scene. During 1999-2004, Stargate, at the time a trio with third member Hallgeir Rustan, enjoyed 40 top 10 hits in the UK. The following year, the other two members, Mikkel Eriksen and Tor Hermansen decided to risk all and set off across the Atlantic.

http://www.soundonsound.c...argate.htm
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Not really a fan of the music they make, but they've obviously been successful in today's market.



Music for adventurous listeners


tA

Tribal Records

paisleypark4 said:

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All of these people suck and are not and never will at Jam and Lewis's level.
The fact that are still producing is great.
[Edited 4/30/10 19:06pm]

laurarichardson said:

Is Puff Daddy even a real producer?

sleepyq said:

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No !!!!

Adisa said:

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I am sorry I think Jam and Lewis in terms of RnB are great writers. I find LA & Face to have written some of the corniest lyrics ever and I don't think their music has held up well over time.

sleepyq said:

Leon "Ndugu" Chancler & Reggie Andrews ( Dazz Band / General Caine / Kiddo / Klique / etc...)

sleepyq said:

Puff Daddy is probably a real producer only in his own mind.

Providing that two-man teams is a unisex term:



Mad props to Wendy & Lisa...



Also, much respect to Cedric and Victor Caldwell, two siblings whose gospel production snagged me way back in the day.


And, I'm going to flat-out cheat and say...





... Mint Condition, because a lot of their tracks are produced by only two of their members...

Adisa said:

I can see that.

Adisa said:

ONE thing wrong with that statement. LA & Face (or even Face by himself) have stopped making 'hits' long ago while Jam & Lewis are still cranking them out AND are still in demand as of 2010. NOT to mention, Jam & Lewis are the producers with the 2nd most #1 Billboard Hot 100 hits. La'Face.. not so much.

One of the latest Jam & Lewis records produced: "Mars VS. Venus" -Usher.

ThreadBare said:

Well it's no secret that Stokley is one of them.

David Frank & Mic Murphy- The System.

RipTheJacker said:

they've produced a combination of songs and albums for other artists

case in point:


Attitude-Pump The Nation(there's a song or two? produced by Mic Murphy on this album.)

Radiant-Catch The Glow(i think Mic Murphy produced this whole album)

RJSwift said:

Hits are one thing, timeless songs are another. Prince still produces, right?

ThreadBare said:

I know next to nothing about their work but I do know they are respected in the industry and have enjoyed 20 plus years of success!

Jam and Lewis but I have a lot of love for LA and Babyface.

Adisa said:

Jam and Lewis have many timeless songs in their catalog. Their songs have been covered by other artists. I still here their songs played on quiet storm/oldies stations; some examples are "Encore" by Cheryl Lynn and "Never Knew Love Like This" by Alexander O'Neal w/Cherelle.

Adisa said:

Adisa, Jam & Lewis can't be approaching their 30 year mark of making great songs if their "hits" weren't "timeless". They have outlasted not only (LA &) Face BUT, other production teams and single person producers. Their songs are being remade and sampled by some of everyone. La'Face also boasts this to a lesser extent. La'Face have since dessolved..Face had success beyond that true, but, ask yourself this, if their sound and songs are soooo "timeless" over Jam & Lewis.. why in 2010 is so many more artists and labels STILL seeking Flyte Time songs and not so much La'Face songs??
Oh and Yes, Prince still produces and that has nothing to do with anything.

RJSwift said:

I stopped reading after this, because it simply isn't true. Hit songs are for the moment. Timeless songs are just that timeless. Holland, Dozier, & Holland. Barret Strong and Norman Whitfield. Lennon/ McCartney. People want Jam and Lewis becaus ethey make hit songs, bnuit that doesn't mean those songs are comparable to the ones written by the people just mentioned.

Obviously J&L have outlived LaFACE, because LaFACE broke up. Still, Babyface on his own is still a better songwriter than either Jam or Lewis.

As songwriters what's Jam and Lewis's signature song, a song that almost everyone knows and that everyone knows that they wrote? What's LaFACE's signature song? What's Face's signature song as a songwriter? Most people will have an easier time answering the second or third questions.

Adisa said:

It's obvious you're not reading entire posts because you asked questions that another poster has already answered. So reading only one line means you can't debate the rest of the post and i'd be repeating myself again so, moving on..

RJSwift said:

Because there's nothing to discuss. I gave J&L their props as producers, and said that I think LaFACE are the better writers. Nothing is going to change my opinion. Have a great rest of the life.

Babyface wrote and produced everything L.A. got co-credit for anyway.

Anyway, for me it's Holland-Dozier-Holland.

Timmy84 said:

You have to respect the work that HDH did and their place in creating the Motown Sound. But honestly I've never cared for the music of the Four tops or The Supremes. Now shit like "Heatwave" and "Please, Mr. Postman"? I'll take that any day of the week.