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Printablemaria1999 said: TonyVanDam said: I don't mean to be rude, but what are you talking about?  Okay, corrected typos. First, let me ask the question again. Why do you keep posting these types of threads? Is it for entertainment purposes?educational purposes? In a response to an earlier statement, you wrote "Prove it (doesn't exist)?" But (once again) you fell short of telling why is it important that we know who these people chose to worship. Because I care about people (EXAMPLES: music fans) enough to share information on what is going dead wrong in the entertainment industry (THIS does include the international music industry). It is definitely for educational purposes. And your life and the lives of the people you might care about (your children?) depends on it. Did you not read what BlaqueKnight said in post #27 & #33? He is one of the few orgers that have figured it out. Now it's up to you to.....Figure It Out. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: minneapolisFunq said: 4real. As I said above, because that's part of "real life" for some people, too. except you can't use hypothetical examples to prove the possibility of the existence of an imaginary cult. just because we can imagine it does not make it so. | |
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maria1999 said: TonyVanDam said: I don't mean to be rude, but what are you talking about? Okay, corrected typos. First, let me ask the question again. Why do you keep posting these types of threads? Is it for entertainment purposes?educational purposes? In a response to an earlier statement, you wrote "Prove it (doesn't exist)?" But (once again) you fell short of telling why is it important that we know who these people chose to worship. once in awhile the orderlies take a smoke break and he gets a few free minutes. | |
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TonyVanDam said: maria1999 said: Okay, corrected typos. First, let me ask the question again. Why do you keep posting these types of threads? Is it for entertainment purposes?educational purposes? In a response to an earlier statement, you wrote "Prove it (doesn't exist)?" But (once again) you fell short of telling why is it important that we know who these people chose to worship. Because I care about people (EXAMPLES: music fans) enough to share information on what is going dead wrong in the entertainment industry (THIS does include the international music industry). It is definitely for educational purposes. And your life and the lives of the people you might care about (your children?) depends on it. Did you not read what BlaqueKnight said in post #27 & #33? He is one of the few orgers that have figured it out. Now it's up to you to.....[b]Figure It Out.[/b] There is nothing wrong with wanting to be informed, but you seem to have taken this to the point of obsession. You suggest that I "figure it out" I am not ignorant to the fact that there are "secret societies". I have been knowing about these "powers that be", but I am not about to start "beating people over the head" with this knowledge. No, I did not read BlaqueKnight's thread. I don't need to. Look, here's the deal. I can't go around worrying about what these "powers that be" are doing. I simply have too much that I rather be doing, instead of keeping tabs on people and things that hold no relevance in my life. Life is too short and my sole concern is trying to do what I need to do to make it to Heaven. I was raised in church, therefore, I am well informed on how to deal with the evil things that men do. My family raised me to be a child of God, which is where my strength and protection from evil comes from. My pastor recently said that "there are 365 fear nots in the Bible". Do you get the significance of that statement? I do; therefore, I REFUSE to live my life in any form of fear. So,if Jay Z, Beyonce, Rhianna, Lady GaGa, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and/or whoever else chooses to follow the lead of the devil in order to gain temporary "control" of the world, then its them who will have hell to pay when they cease to exist...not me. | |
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errant said: BlaqueKnight said: As I said above, because that's part of "real life" for some people, too. except you can't use hypothetical examples to prove the possibility of the existence of an imaginary cult. just because we can imagine it does not make it so. Wait a minute. Are you saying there are no cults? 
Wow. That's just.....WOW. That's a level of naivety that's just beyond bounds. There are mountains of evidence of the existence of cults, religions and societies and many of them aren't even secret. The masonic cult/religion/society or whatever you want to call it is not secret. Skull & Bones is not a secret. There are many and they aren't secret because they don't have to be. The only thing secret are their activities, not their existence. As I said earlier, just because you didn't get invited to the party doesn't mean there wasn't one. Its like this; there's nothing any of us can do about it. If a group of multi-millionaires and billionaires want to get together and plot world power or just have coffee, there isn't anything any of us can do to stop them. If they want to perform rituals, they're gonna do that too. So what? Its not far fetched, seeing as how people do weird shit all of the time. I guess denial is a way of dealing with it. I don't know. I prefer the truth. I can say this much, I know these cults exist and anywhere there's access to large amounts of money, there's access to depravity and decadence as far as the imagination is willing to go. Now go ask somebody in Hollyweird about Puffy's white party AFTER PARTIES. Truth be told, I'm simply discussing this. I don't give a damn about any of it. Its not my life. | |
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errant said: BlaqueKnight said: As I said above, because that's part of "real life" for some people, too. except you can't use hypothetical examples to prove the possibility of the existence of an imaginary cult. just because we can imagine it does not make it so.  | |
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BlaqueKnight said: errant said: except you can't use hypothetical examples to prove the possibility of the existence of an imaginary cult. just because we can imagine it does not make it so. Wait a minute. Are you saying there are no cults?
Wow. That's just.....WOW. That's a level of naivety that's just beyond bounds. There are mountains of evidence of the existence of cults, religions and societies and many of them aren't even secret. The masonic cult/religion/society or whatever you want to call it is not secret. Skull & Bones is not a secret. There are many and they aren't secret because they don't have to be. The only thing secret are their activities, not their existence. As I said earlier, just because you didn't get invited to the party doesn't mean there wasn't one. Its like this; there's nothing any of us can do about it. If a group of multi-millionaires and billionaires want to get together and plot world power or just have coffee, there isn't anything any of us can do to stop them. If they want to perform rituals, they're gonna do that too. So what? Its not far fetched, seeing as how people do weird shit all of the time. I guess denial is a way of dealing with it. I don't know. I prefer the truth. I can say this much, I know these cults exist and anywhere there's access to large amounts of money, there's access to depravity and decadence as far as the imagination is willing to go. Now go ask somebody in Hollyweird about Puffy's white party AFTER PARTIES. Truth be told, I'm simply discussing this. I don't give a damn about any of it. Its not my life. I'm not talking about the existence of cults in general. I'm talking about the existence of this specific one, its supposed intentions, its supposed influence, etc. Every time a triangle shows up somewhere, Tony gets out his tin foil hat. It's getting a little bit ridiculous, don't you think? The example you used, by your own admission, was hypothetical. Just because you can describe this happening, and I can imagine it happening, based on nothing more than an overactive imagination and the ramblings of a bunch of paranoid, easily persuaded fools on the internet, does not mean it's happening. I can imagine a baby alien arriving in a space capsule from Kryptonite and growing up to fly and use his x-ray vision to battle evil, but that doesn't mean it's real. | |
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errant said: Just because you can describe this happening, and I can imagine it happening, based on nothing more than an overactive imagination and the ramblings of a bunch of paranoid, easily persuaded fools on the internet, does not mean it's happening. I can imagine a baby alien arriving in a space capsule from Kryptonite and growing up to fly and use his x-ray vision to battle evil, but that doesn't mean it's real.
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TonyVanDam said: minneapolisFunq said: Who cares if he "worships the devil" or not?
The devil doesnt exist. btw this interview is old. I'll save my professional argument against that in P&R at a far later date. But let it be known, evil DO exist. If you let yourself believe it does Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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errant said: BlaqueKnight said: Wait a minute. Are you saying there are no cults?
Wow. That's just.....WOW. That's a level of naivety that's just beyond bounds. There are mountains of evidence of the existence of cults, religions and societies and many of them aren't even secret. The masonic cult/religion/society or whatever you want to call it is not secret. Skull & Bones is not a secret. There are many and they aren't secret because they don't have to be. The only thing secret are their activities, not their existence. As I said earlier, just because you didn't get invited to the party doesn't mean there wasn't one. Its like this; there's nothing any of us can do about it. If a group of multi-millionaires and billionaires want to get together and plot world power or just have coffee, there isn't anything any of us can do to stop them. If they want to perform rituals, they're gonna do that too. So what? Its not far fetched, seeing as how people do weird shit all of the time. I guess denial is a way of dealing with it. I don't know. I prefer the truth. I can say this much, I know these cults exist and anywhere there's access to large amounts of money, there's access to depravity and decadence as far as the imagination is willing to go. Now go ask somebody in Hollyweird about Puffy's white party AFTER PARTIES. Truth be told, I'm simply discussing this. I don't give a damn about any of it. Its not my life. I'm not talking about the existence of cults in general. I'm talking about the existence of this specific one, its supposed intentions, its supposed influence, etc. Every time a triangle shows up somewhere, Tony gets out his tin foil hat. It's getting a little bit ridiculous, don't you think? The example you used, by your own admission, was hypothetical. Just because you can describe this happening, and I can imagine it happening, based on nothing more than an overactive imagination and the ramblings of a bunch of paranoid, easily persuaded fools on the internet, does not mean it's happening. I can imagine a baby alien arriving in a space capsule from Kryptonite and growing up to fly and use his x-ray vision to battle evil, but that doesn't mean it's real. Okay, let me make this as clear as I can. Masons EXIST. They are not a "secret society". They are very real. Masonic rituals are real. This is well documented and if one chooses to NOT do any research and deliberately deny this then that is one's choice but just because you don't believe it doesn't mean its not real. I'm not saying Jay-Z is involved in any of this nor am I pointing fingers specifically to any one person. I'm saying that power is passed along and if you doubt that then you are fooling yourself. There are very few success stories that happen accidentally. Most successful people had help from other successful people. No one has to prove anything to you because you are insignificant. All of us outside the structures of power are. Nobody cares what you believe because you are powerless to do anything about it. There's no documented evidence of X-ray vision and Kryptonite. There's plenty of documented evidence of masons and there's also plenty of evidence of cults doing ritualistic animal sacrifices, odd sex rituals and blood-drinking and the like - but I guess that ranks right up there with aliens with X-ray vision to you. 
Do these exist in the entertainment industry? YES THEY DO. Maybe not to the extent that some believe but just like there are Jews, Christians, Catholics and so on in the entertainment business, there are also Masons, devil-worshipers, pagans, and even scientologists in the entertainment business. Now if that's far-fetched to you, then you don't have much of an imagination. People believe whatever they need to in order to deal with life. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: errant said: I'm not talking about the existence of cults in general. I'm talking about the existence of this specific one, its supposed intentions, its supposed influence, etc. Every time a triangle shows up somewhere, Tony gets out his tin foil hat. It's getting a little bit ridiculous, don't you think? The example you used, by your own admission, was hypothetical. Just because you can describe this happening, and I can imagine it happening, based on nothing more than an overactive imagination and the ramblings of a bunch of paranoid, easily persuaded fools on the internet, does not mean it's happening. I can imagine a baby alien arriving in a space capsule from Kryptonite and growing up to fly and use his x-ray vision to battle evil, but that doesn't mean it's real. Okay, let me make this as clear as I can. Masons EXIST. They are not a "secret society". They are very real. Masonic rituals are real. This is well documented and if one chooses to NOT do any research and deliberately deny this then that is one's choice but just because you don't believe it doesn't mean its not real. I'm not saying Jay-Z is involved in any of this nor am I pointing fingers specifically to any one person. I'm saying that power is passed along and if you doubt that then you are fooling yourself. There are very few success stories that happen accidentally. Most successful people had help from other successful people. No one has to prove anything to you because you are insignificant. All of us outside the structures of power are. Nobody cares what you believe because you are powerless to do anything about it. There's no documented evidence of X-ray vision and Kryptonite. There's plenty of documented evidence of masons and there's also plenty of evidence of cults doing ritualistic animal sacrifices, odd sex rituals and blood-drinking and the like - but I guess that ranks right up there with aliens with X-ray vision to you.
Do these exist in the entertainment industry? YES THEY DO. Maybe not to the extent that some believe but just like there are Jews, Christians, Catholics and so on in the entertainment business, there are also Masons, devil-worshipers, pagans, and even scientologists in the entertainment business. Now if that's far-fetched to you, then you don't have much of an imagination. People believe whatever they need to in order to deal with life. most evidence of any of this is apocryphal | |
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maria1999 said: TonyVanDam said: Because I care about people (EXAMPLES: music fans) enough to share information on what is going dead wrong in the entertainment industry (THIS does include the international music industry). It is definitely for educational purposes. And your life and the lives of the people you might care about (your children?) depends on it. Did you not read what BlaqueKnight said in post #27 & #33? He is one of the few orgers that have figured it out. Now it's up to you to.....[b]Figure It Out.[/b] There is nothing wrong with wanting to be informed, but you seem to have taken this to the point of obsession. You suggest that I "figure it out" I am not ignorant to the fact that there are "secret societies". I have been knowing about these "powers that be", but I am not about to start "beating people over the head" with this knowledge. No, I did not read BlaqueKnight's thread. I don't need to. Look, here's the deal. I can't go around worrying about what these "powers that be" are doing. I simply have too much that I rather be doing, instead of keeping tabs on people and things that hold no relevance in my life. Life is too short and my sole concern is trying to do what I need to do to make it to Heaven. I was raised in church, therefore, I am well informed on how to deal with the evil things that men do. My family raised me to be a child of God, which is where my strength and protection from evil comes from. My pastor recently said that "there are 365 fear nots in the Bible". Do you get the significance of that statement? I do; therefore, I REFUSE to live my life in any form of fear. So,if Jay Z, Beyonce, Rhianna, Lady GaGa, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and/or whoever else chooses to follow the lead of the devil in order to gain temporary "control" of the world, then its them who will have hell to pay when they cease to exist...not me. Good for you. But I'm NOT a member of mainstream "Christianity" (my explanation is better off in P&R at a later date). Just saying. | |
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errant said: BlaqueKnight said: As I said above, because that's part of "real life" for some people, too. except you can't use hypothetical examples to prove the possibility of the existence of an imaginary cult. just because we can imagine it does not make it so. To be dead honest, I'm starting to wonder if you're a cult member. [Edited 4/27/10 13:34pm] | |
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errant said: maria1999 said: Okay, corrected typos. First, let me ask the question again. Why do you keep posting these types of threads? Is it for entertainment purposes?educational purposes? In a response to an earlier statement, you wrote "Prove it (doesn't exist)?" But (once again) you fell short of telling why is it important that we know who these people chose to worship. once in awhile the orderlies take a smoke break and he gets a few free minutes. TRANSLATION: Either you really are a cult member planted here to wind people up OR you really are one of THE most unwise orgers in prince.org history. 
Either way, I'm so not talking to you any further. | |
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Fuck Jay-Z.  | |
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TonyVanDam said: errant said: once in awhile the orderlies take a smoke break and he gets a few free minutes. TRANSLATION: Either you really are a cult member planted here to wind people up OR you really are one of THE most unwise orgers in prince.org history.
Either way, I'm so not talking to you any further.  JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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errant said: most evidence of any of this is apocryphal According to you. | |
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TonyVanDam said:[quote] errant said: once in awhile the orderlies take a smoke break and he gets a few free minutes. TRANSLATION: Either you really are a cult member planted here to wind people up OR you really are one of THE most unwise orgers in prince.org history.
Either way, I'm so not talking to you any further. [/quote[Edited 4/27/10 15:15pm] | |
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maria1999 said:[quote] TonyVanDam said: errant said: once in awhile the orderlies take a smoke break and he gets a few free minutes. TRANSLATION: Either you really are a cult member planted here to wind people up OR you really are one of THE most unwise orgers in prince.org history.
Either way, I'm so not talking to you any further. [/quote
If you feel that errant is unwise, then this should be the opportunity that you have been waiting for. You mentioned that you post these threads for educational purposes and that you care about people. Here is your chance to demonstrate both. You shouldn't get frustrated when someone doesn't see things the way that you do. | |
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TonyVanDam said: maria1999 said: There is nothing wrong with wanting to be informed, but you seem to have taken this to the point of obsession. You suggest that I "figure it out" I am not ignorant to the fact that there are "secret societies". I have been knowing about these "powers that be", but I am not about to start "beating people over the head" with this knowledge. No, I did not read BlaqueKnight's thread. I don't need to. Look, here's the deal. I can't go around worrying about what these "powers that be" are doing. I simply have too much that I rather be doing, instead of keeping tabs on people and things that hold no relevance in my life. Life is too short and my sole concern is trying to do what I need to do to make it to Heaven. I was raised in church, therefore, I am well informed on how to deal with the evil things that men do. My family raised me to be a child of God, which is where my strength and protection from evil comes from. My pastor recently said that "there are 365 fear nots in the Bible". Do you get the significance of that statement? I do; therefore, I REFUSE to live my life in any form of fear. So,if Jay Z, Beyonce, Rhianna, Lady GaGa, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and/or whoever else chooses to follow the lead of the devil in order to gain temporary "control" of the world, then its them who will have hell to pay when they cease to exist...not me. [b]Good for you. But I'm NOT a member of mainstream "Christianity" (my explanation is better off in P&R at a later date). Just saying.[/b] I know. But when you typed that, were you being condescending? Oh, and I saw your explanation in P&R already. God bless | |
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Timmy84 said: Fuck Jay-Z.
Co-sign. 
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TonyVanDam said: Timmy84 said: Fuck Jay-Z.
Co-sign.
Too bad Nas wound up working for Jay-Z!!! The devil wins again!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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maria1999 said: If you feel that errant is unwise, then this should be the opportunity that you have been waiting for. You mentioned that you post these threads for educational purposes and that you care about people. Here is your chance to demonstrate both. You shouldn't get frustrated when someone doesn't see things the way that you do. Or better yet, why don't people spent their own free time to do their own research? Either way, I'm moving on in put my thread back on track. | |
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Paris9748430 said: TonyVanDam said: Co-sign.
Too bad Nas wound up working for Jay-Z!!! The devil wins again!!! Not anymore. When Jay left Island/Def Jam to created Roc Nation, he only took Kanye with him. | |
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If there is any doubt about how dangerous Jay has become due to his backing with The Elite, just listen to how 50 Cent (of all people!) tells it:
Given that 50 still deals with people that have taken The Oath themselves (EXAMPLES: Dre, Eminem), I found this video too interesting. And minds you, I don't even like 50. | |
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TonyVanDam said: errant said: once in awhile the orderlies take a smoke break and he gets a few free minutes. TRANSLATION: Either you really are a cult member planted here to wind people up OR you really are one of THE most unwise orgers in prince.org history.
Either way, I'm so not talking to you any further. I'm totally a cult member. I'm a card-carrying member of the People For The Rational Thinking Of Human Beings. Where'd I stir shit up? You're the one that comes here ranting about this ludicrous bullshit 3 times a week. The truth is, YOU act more like a cult member than anyone. You've got a narrowly defined belief system based more on faith than fact that you've been converted to like every other weak-willed and weak-minded cult follower, and you proseletyze it loudly and frequently to all that will listen so that you can convert other people that are curious about your message and don't know any better than to see through the fantasy and fiction of it. | |
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TonyVanDam said: If there is any doubt about how dangerous Jay has become due to his backing with The Elite, just listen to how 50 Cent (of all people!) tells it:
Given that 50 still deals with people that have taken The Oath themselves (EXAMPLES: Dre, Eminem), I found this video too interesting. And minds you, I don't even like 50. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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TonyVanDam said:[quote] maria1999 said: If you feel that errant is unwise, then this should be the opportunity that you have been waiting for. You mentioned that you post these threads for educational purposes and that you care about people. Here is your chance to demonstrate both. You shouldn't get frustrated when someone doesn't see things the way that you do. Or better yet, why don't people spent their own free time to do their own research? Either way, I'm moving on in put my thread back on track.[/quote okay | |
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Paris9748430 said: TonyVanDam said: Co-sign.
Too bad Nas wound up working for Jay-Z!!! The devil wins again!!! Nas doesn't do jack shit for that big lipped monster. | |
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