Christina's "Fighter" > Britney's "Stronger"

midiscover said:

The song “stronger “ sucked ,I just hate the song….

The music video of “ Fighter” is just brilliant, one of the best videos and the song is good.

DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:

how do you get 7 pages ?

(i've set it to 200 posts per page ; maximum)

Dewrede said:

Mine was around 150. It's to 200 now.
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^ cool , personally i prefer it that way too

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Why?????!!! That wasn't to you.

NastradumasKid said:[quote]

seeingvoices12 said:

I know

It was directed to soulalive , and it wasn’t necessary, that’s their opinion, no need to finger them for it

Controversial opinion of the day:

The Jacksons are nothing without Michael.

discuss

sleepyq said:

Referring mainly to the recording-sessions of Thriller. The concept of the songs in demo-format are indeed similar,
but imo, the collaborative trinity of MJ, Q and engineer-supervisor Bruce Swedien resulted in that more improved and
final sonic soundmix which also helped Thriller sell so well. Before the official album release, the first test-pressing
was played for CBS-executives and it wasn't really welcomed as a promising chart-seller. Some tracks were mixed too extended.
If that first test-mix would've been pressed on vinyl, it likely wouldn't have had the same sound-effect as the final result which eventually was officially released,
because the vinyl-grooves on the LP-format were too narrow to carry so much sonic sound. Here's where Q's and Bruce's input were tested even more.
Intensive re-recording/editing/mixing for specific song-parts followed and much crucial desicions had to be made for the final mix.
MJ wanted to keep some extended mixes in the original version, but they had to be edited to a shorter playtime in order to fit the tracks on the LP,
and without losing too much sonic sound. This requires good experience and directing in the recording-process which Q had build up at that time.
The craftmanship of editing, engineering and mastering were also essential ingredients during the recording of Thriller, for which they had set their goals high.
Bruce Swedien still looks back at this project as one his best accomplishments, and he's done countless of recording-sessions.

SoulAlive said:

There was good creativity going on with the brothers doing their own thing when recording for Dynasty and Triumph.
Triumph was record after Off The Wall, and an essential album in The Jackson's discography. This was a great creative project accomplished by the brothers.
During the Off The Wall-leg from their Dynasty-Tour, MJ's growth as solo-performer started to rise and even more during the Triumph-Tour.
I guess that a good majority of concert-visitors still enjoyed to see all the brothers perform at the Triumph Tour and Victory Tour although during the latter-mentioned Tour,
the focus was indeed more on MJ and the Thriller-craze.
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NastradumasKid said:

I equally enjoy Jeffrey's LTD and solo-era. During his solo-years he recorded great songs with George Duke.
That was solid teamwork. Jeffrey was always George's favorite artist to produce, and i'm glad these songs have been realised :




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RKJCNE said:

No.

Well, Live Through This -by far their standalone album- was rumoured to have been penned by Kurt.

Mark Ronson? Fuck no.

Africa1 said:

"Ricks james" doen't know what he's talking about, desiring or shagging a post-pubescent(13yrs+) does not make you a paedophile.

Had Elvis and The Beatles been black they would've accomplished less commercially but still command the respect commensurate to their talents as they do today, having been white.

Shango said:

The way you put it, I'm inclined to agree with your assessment.

The two things Quincy did bring to the table were time restraint and quality control, which i think are two things that went out the window after the Bad album. Something like the 2 minute choir intro the Will You Be There and the 1 minute poem ricital after the song would never have made the record on Quincy's watch. Songs like Money, self-indulgant messes completely void of melody would have been tossed aside. You know, George Michael needed a Quincy Jones. Because he didn't have one, we ended up with songs like I Want Your Sex being like 10 minutes of NOTHING. I have to get all the radio edits of George's songs because the album versions seem like they just never end.

My issue is that people want to pretend that Michael owes his entire career to Quincy, when that is so far from reality. Quincy is not Michael's Jam & Lewis. Michael had success and acclaim before Quincy, and after Quincy. Quincy didn't write Michael's songs for him. Quincy didn't give him his sound, he already showcased that same sound on the Destiny album without Quincy's involvement.

I do give lots of credit to Sweden and Botrell for their fantastic work and input, on his 90s albums especially. I believe they wrote a book about their work.

sleepyq said:

Good points ! Yeah, MJ's creative input for Destiny & Triumph was a great result of his talent that had grown by that time.
Also his conceptual and artistic vision was becoming visible with the release of the "Can You Feel It"-video. Thanks for hipping me to that book !

midiscover said:

I love both of 'em, but I agree with this.

Christina's voice is far better, but Britney has better music overall. I jam to both of them all day and all night, tho.

Shango said:

I'd love to hear that early test pressing of 'Thriller'.A few of the tracks leaked awhile ago and can be found on Youtube.There's an additional verse in "Lady In My Life" and a longer intro to "Billie Jean".

Thank you to whoever pointed that Madonna music was one of the most overated ever

OMFG @ this thread!!! okay, I have to try hard to top this, let's see


Joe Public > Earth Wind & Fire

Lionel Richie only got funky after he left that awful Commodores. and "Dancing on the Ceiling" is probably best funk track of all times

50cent has a much better flow than Rakim ever had

Aretha Franklin is all image and only popular because sex sells

Marvin Gaye just made boring MOR kitsch, he could not sing soulful if his life depended on it

Stevie Wonder is totally overrated, he wouldn't be half as successful if he were white

Stop it!

Quincy Jones given to much credit? Please, When I heard "Off The Wall" the for the first time, I knew Q had his hand in it. You can hear the man's signature sound and arrangements all over that album and "Thriller". That statement shouldn't ever be repeated, utterly ridiculous.

MrSmoketoomuch said:

Aretha has a sexy image?

SoulAlive said:

Yep, i heard indeed the extended version of "Lady of My Life" on Youtube, though i prefer the edited-version lol.
Imho, i think they made a good choice to edit TLOML, because somehow the timing where the vocal-bridge comes in seems to fit naturally.

If President Barack Obama was white, he would be getting a lot more praise for all he has been able to make happen in this short amount of time, and given, he is new at his new job.

Shango said:

In terms of OTW and Triumph, Michael was working on them at the same time

He started working on Off The Wall the WEEK after Destiny was released,and worked on the album while doing the Destiny Tour and started writing for Triumph the same time

MrSmoketoomuch said:

MrSmoketoomuch said:

^^^^Most unpopular opinions ever