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Reply #810 posted 04/23/10 4:50pm

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sleepyq said:

PYTDee said:

eek This is ridiculous...seriously.

Everyone's preference isn't gonna be the same as yours..what you might find "ugly" others might find beautiful...simple as that. lol

I'm not the one pushing my preference on others. Ppl r jumping and making assumptions because of MY opinions and i'm defending them. confused

Umm....So are you. lol
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Reply #811 posted 04/23/10 5:22pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

sleepyq said:


I'm not the one pushing my preference on others. Ppl r jumping and making assumptions because of MY opinions and i'm defending them. confused

Umm....So are you. lol



Sleepyg is just a negative person.
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Reply #812 posted 04/24/10 5:02am

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Faith Evans is underrated.

Chaka Khan beats Whitney Houston vocally, esp. when it comes down to improvisation.
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Reply #813 posted 04/24/10 6:57am

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inia said:

Faith Evans is underrated.

Chaka Khan beats Whitney Houston vocally, esp. when it comes down to improvisation.


Agreed,,,on both accounts.

And I've yet to hear Nippy improv,,,,,she's TOO damn proper to bring some raw emotions.
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Reply #814 posted 04/24/10 8:36am

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sleepyq said:


I never said Off the Wall was about his nose. I said he would never have reached Thriller heights without doing his nose. Thriller heights, as in... King of Music Videos, image based music, pop icon,most fanous person on earth, breaking barriers of race... yeah- Off the Wall may have happened without a nosejob, but not Thriller. Definitely not Thriller. He needed a more commercial look for all that, and he got it. Thats MY take, and I'm stickin with it.

Oh, and on what planet is Usher losing popularity on?

His current single song, OMG is currently the #1 song in the UK and New Zeland, and is currently #3 on US itunes (probably #1 on BB100 by next week), his album is still in the top 5 and has reached gold status, and he has 3 songs in the R&B top 20, one being #2. lol

And yes, he did it with his shirt ON. 2 Strikes. lol

Will.I.Am can write a "top 10" track in his sleep, that's why "OMG" is so hot. lol I wonder how Usher's other singles will perform on the charts....

And let's see how his concert attendance looks when/if he goes on tour, lol. I have a feeling that will be slacking. lol At first, Usher was an MJ-emulator with ripped muscles, which brought in the crowd. Now, he's an MJ-emulator who wears suits. bored Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the Usher excitement like I used to. shrug

So now, we're both just assuming. You think MJ wouldn't have become "Thriller Mike" without changing his nose. I think Usher would not have become popular at all without building-up his perfect-looking figure. But alas, neither of us will ever know, lol.

lol Dont compare what I'm saying to wut ur tryna come with. Your "assumption" makes no sense at all. Usher's shirt has been off his whole career, through the ups and downs. There is no correlation between that, and how many albums he sells.

His shirt is off, and hes doin a straight up LOVE SCENE here:


^^^ And that album FLOPPED, so TRY AGAIN. lol

And now his shirt is ON and he has a #1 hit on his hands. Will I Am has written countless flops, look it up. Oh, and Usher's "other singles" have reached #1 and #2 on the R&B charts, and another (non single) has reached #1 on Urban AC. All this with his clothes on,and only his face to ogle. 3 strikes. We're done here. bored
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Reply #815 posted 04/24/10 8:38am

sleepyq

NastradumasKid said:

WaterInYourBath said:


Umm....So are you. lol



Sleepyg is just a negative person.

Yes, because my opinions about Madonna, Kanye West, Usher, Donna Summer, and Lady Gaga are so "negative."

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Reply #816 posted 04/24/10 8:38am

sleepyq

inia said:

Faith Evans is underrated.

Chaka Khan beats Whitney Houston vocally, esp. when it comes down to improvisation.

Those r popular opinions.
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Reply #817 posted 04/24/10 11:53am

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sleepyq said:

WaterInYourBath said:


Will.I.Am can write a "top 10" track in his sleep, that's why "OMG" is so hot. lol I wonder how Usher's other singles will perform on the charts....

And let's see how his concert attendance looks when/if he goes on tour, lol. I have a feeling that will be slacking. lol At first, Usher was an MJ-emulator with ripped muscles, which brought in the crowd. Now, he's an MJ-emulator who wears suits. bored Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the Usher excitement like I used to. shrug

So now, we're both just assuming. You think MJ wouldn't have become "Thriller Mike" without changing his nose. I think Usher would not have become popular at all without building-up his perfect-looking figure. But alas, neither of us will ever know, lol.

lol Dont compare what I'm saying to wut ur tryna come with. Your "assumption" makes no sense at all. Usher's shirt has been off his whole career, through the ups and downs. There is no correlation between that, and how many albums he sells.

His shirt is off, and hes doin a straight up LOVE SCENE here:


^^^ And that album FLOPPED, so TRY AGAIN. lol

And now his shirt is ON and he has a #1 hit on his hands. Will I Am has written countless flops, look it up. Oh, and Usher's "other singles" have reached #1 and #2 on the R&B charts, and another (non single) has reached #1 on Urban AC. All this with his clothes on,and only his face to ogle. 3 strikes. We're done here. bored


FLOP

He is a flop, everything he did is abstract and flop,even his biggest album in my eye is a flop and he will always be a flop....
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Reply #818 posted 04/24/10 12:09pm

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Will.I.Am is very underrated

Anybody who fell for the whole Jamie Starr/Prince didn't have anything to do with The Time thing was either deaf or insane. That's Prince's ass adlibbing on Girl and Cool! lol

Image wise, you couldn't really tell Next, 112, Dru Hill, and Jagged Edge apart
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Reply #819 posted 04/24/10 12:12pm

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bboy87 said:

Will.I.Am is very underrated

Anybody who fell for the whole Jamie Starr/Prince didn't have anything to do with The Time thing was either deaf or insane. That's Prince's ass adlibbing on Girl and Cool! lol

Image wise, you couldn't really tell Next, 112, Dru Hill, and Jagged Edge apart


The last two is not unpopular man. lol
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Reply #820 posted 04/24/10 12:15pm

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Reply #821 posted 04/24/10 12:17pm

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MJ's worst song is Privacy.
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Reply #822 posted 04/24/10 12:37pm

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sleepyq said:

WaterInYourBath said:


You're comparing Usher's mug to this?



I regret to have to mock Usher's natural facial structure like you are Michael's, but, well, based on what I've seen/heard, Usher's "sexiness" has always only been from the neck down. With his face in the late 70s, Michael was viewed as a "sexy symbol" too, with not one muscle anywhere (totally scrawny), so his face/smile was apparently attractive to many. Take away Usher's built-up body, and unlike Mike, he would have faded away long ago. Michael was at least still called "cute" in '75-78. Usher is never regarded as that. Sorry, but Usher is not a good comparison for your argument.

confuse

Umm, yeah, Usher is cuter than that. Is that the question? Usher is 100% MORE HANDSOME than that. Facially.



And attractive to whom, exactly? Have u looked at chart stats? His work with his original grown up face did not set the charts on fire. The Jacksons only enjoyed one top 10 hit. They werent exactly setting the charts on fire "all natural"

You'd think a "sex symbol" would have more chart success than that, don't u?

He didnt blow up as an adult until Off the Wall, and his nose was ALREADY DONE in the 1st video, Dont Stop Til You Get Enough.

Try again. lol


PFFFFF rolleyes

Looks Do NOT matter....

Talent?

MJ talented 100%

Usher talented 3.5%
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Reply #823 posted 04/24/10 12:39pm

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sleepyq said:

NastradumasKid said:




Sleepyg is just a negative person.

Yes, because my opinions about Madonna, Kanye West, Usher, Donna Summer, and Lady Gaga are so "negative."

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Usher sucks nowadays anyway, he USED to be good, I don't give a damn about Lady Gaga. I'm sure she a talented young lady but to me she's boring. Kanye West IS NOT a musical genius, and Donna Summer is fine. lol
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Reply #824 posted 04/24/10 12:46pm

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sleepyq said:


Yes, because my opinions about Madonna, Kanye West, Usher, Donna Summer, and Lady Gaga are so "negative."

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Usher sucks nowadays anyway, he USED to be good, I don't give a damn about Lady Gaga. I'm sure she a talented young lady but to me she's boring. Kanye West IS NOT a musical genius, and Donna Summer is fine. lol


He always sucked , Give me something that blusher DID that was great and groundbreaking, He is just like the rest of wannabes , Nothing special.

Blusher doesn't even have half of Mj's talent.
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Reply #825 posted 04/24/10 12:48pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Will.I.Am is very underrated

Anybody who fell for the whole Jamie Starr/Prince didn't have anything to do with The Time thing was either deaf or insane. That's Prince's ass adlibbing on Girl and Cool! lol

Image wise, you couldn't really tell Next, 112, Dru Hill, and Jagged Edge apart


The last two is not unpopular man. lol


Dru Hill is awesome back then and so was Jagged Edge and the others.


Sisqo second album could have been really good if his record company did screw him over.

Jay-z was/is never the best rapper nowadays

Camp-Lo's music sound like garbage

Grand Puba is one of the most underrated rappers ever

J Dilla was one of the best producers in hip hop
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Reply #826 posted 04/24/10 12:49pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

NastradumasKid said:



Usher sucks nowadays anyway, he USED to be good, I don't give a damn about Lady Gaga. I'm sure she a talented young lady but to me she's boring. Kanye West IS NOT a musical genius, and Donna Summer is fine. lol


He always sucked , Give me something that blusher DID that was great and groundbreaking, He is just like the rest of wannabes , Nothing special.

Blusher doesn't even have half of Mj's talent.



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Reply #827 posted 04/24/10 12:59pm

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The Gold Experience was Prince's last great album.

En Vogue was the best female vocal group of the past 20 years.

Elvis Presley wasn't that exciting musically. It was 90% image, 10% talent.

KISS has NEVER done anything musically that is every going to be worth remembering. They're songs are uncatchy, boring, uninspired, and forgettable.


I definitely agree with these!

Here's my shameful admission:

Roxette > The Beatles

nod wow, I'm glad I heard somebody acknowledge Roxette. Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus (1995) is all the proof you need of this band's genius.
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Reply #828 posted 04/24/10 1:35pm

sleepyq

NastradumasKid said:

sleepyq said:


Yes, because my opinions about Madonna, Kanye West, Usher, Donna Summer, and Lady Gaga are so "negative."

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Usher sucks nowadays anyway, he USED to be good, I don't give a damn about Lady Gaga. I'm sure she a talented young lady but to me she's boring. Kanye West IS NOT a musical genius, and Donna Summer is fine. lol

Soooo basically, my opinions are only "negative" when u dont agre with them.

.... NEXT! bored
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Reply #829 posted 04/24/10 1:41pm

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sleepyq said:

NastradumasKid said:



Usher sucks nowadays anyway, he USED to be good, I don't give a damn about Lady Gaga. I'm sure she a talented young lady but to me she's boring. Kanye West IS NOT a musical genius, and Donna Summer is fine. lol

Soooo basically, my opinions are only "negative" when u dont agre with them.

.... NEXT! bored


It's not that I don't agree with them, it's just that they almost aways negative. lol But WHATEVER! rolleyes
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Reply #830 posted 04/24/10 1:41pm

sleepyq

seeingvoices12 said:

sleepyq said:


lol Dont compare what I'm saying to wut ur tryna come with. Your "assumption" makes no sense at all. Usher's shirt has been off his whole career, through the ups and downs. There is no correlation between that, and how many albums he sells.

His shirt is off, and hes doin a straight up LOVE SCENE here:


^^^ And that album FLOPPED, so TRY AGAIN. lol

And now his shirt is ON and he has a #1 hit on his hands. Will I Am has written countless flops, look it up. Oh, and Usher's "other singles" have reached #1 and #2 on the R&B charts, and another (non single) has reached #1 on Urban AC. All this with his clothes on,and only his face to ogle. 3 strikes. We're done here. bored


FLOP

He is a flop, everything he did is abstract and flop,even his biggest album in my eye is a flop and he will always be a flop....
confused

Nothing Usher ever did will be as floptastic and trashtastic as Invisible.

U WISH Invisible was 1/100th the amazing album that 8701 was. lol
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Reply #831 posted 04/24/10 1:43pm

sleepyq

NastradumasKid said:

sleepyq said:


Soooo basically, my opinions are only "negative" when u dont agre with them.

.... NEXT! bored


It's not that I don't agree with them, it's just that they almost aways negative. lol But WHATEVER! rolleyes

No, its half and half. The only ppl I'm 100% AGAINST are Shitney and Diana.

I just spend way more time defending my "negative" opinions from posters like yourself.
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Reply #832 posted 04/24/10 1:43pm

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sleepyq said:

WaterInYourBath said:


Will.I.Am can write a "top 10" track in his sleep, that's why "OMG" is so hot. lol I wonder how Usher's other singles will perform on the charts....

And let's see how his concert attendance looks when/if he goes on tour, lol. I have a feeling that will be slacking. lol At first, Usher was an MJ-emulator with ripped muscles, which brought in the crowd. Now, he's an MJ-emulator who wears suits. bored Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the Usher excitement like I used to. shrug

So now, we're both just assuming. You think MJ wouldn't have become "Thriller Mike" without changing his nose. I think Usher would not have become popular at all without building-up his perfect-looking figure. But alas, neither of us will ever know, lol.

lol Dont compare what I'm saying to wut ur tryna come with. Your "assumption" makes no sense at all. Usher's shirt has been off his whole career, through the ups and downs. There is no correlation between that, and how many albums he sells.

His shirt is off, and hes doin a straight up LOVE SCENE here:


^^^ And that album FLOPPED, so TRY AGAIN. lol

And now his shirt is ON and he has a #1 hit on his hands. Will I Am has written countless flops, look it up. Oh, and Usher's "other singles" have reached #1 and #2 on the R&B charts, and another (non single) has reached #1 on Urban AC. All this with his clothes on,and only his face to ogle. 3 strikes. We're done here. bored

Hmm, well, maybe his muscles just couldn't save that dreadful song/album, so I stand corrected. lol It's hard to "ogle" a body when your ears are upset, lol. But again, just like you think Thriller would not have been huge without MJ changing his nose, all of that wanna-be MJ 2002-2004 era would not have been as successful either if Usher hadn't upgraded his chest. Just like Timberlake, no one was looking at his face or ever calling him cute, at least no girls I knew at the time. Everyone I knew was in love with "adorable" B2K. Usher was known as "Ben Vereen with a Six Pack imitating Michael Jackson." neutral I won't tell you what people used to call Timberlake. disbelief

And please, stop with the lame "try again" remark. You have no authority over anything here. But let's hypothetically say you're right that Usher's body has nothing to do with his fame, and that his face is what people are really looking at. IF that is true, you should realize that by mentioning Usher in the first place you totally contradict your entire argument. Since Usher has been able to survive without reconstructing his face, what makes you think Michael couldn't have? lol Usher's smile isn't as wide/attractive as Michael's. Usher's eyes aren't as large/"pretty" as Michael's. And yeah, Mike had a large nose, but it was still better positioned than Usher's.



Soulja Boy proves my perspective. lol His face resembles natural '75-78 MJ, but he creates totally horrible music, wears wack clothes, has a terrible personality, is covered with gross-looking tattoos, and has a very slim figure. And yet, he is one of the most popular acts out now. Has had the most followers on Myspace, YouTube, and Twitter. The most votes on these music video shows. Why? Because all the girls say: "He's so cute!"



Man, I'm done with this. disbelief Believe what you want. I'm not going to discuss Usher's natural face anymore. His facial development is something he had no control over, so I'm going to leave him alone. You like the way he looks, so yay, enjoy.
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Reply #833 posted 04/24/10 1:48pm

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sleepyq said:

NastradumasKid said:



It's not that I don't agree with them, it's just that they almost aways negative. lol But WHATEVER! rolleyes

No, its half and half. The only ppl I'm 100% AGAINST are Shitney and Diana.

I just spend way more time defending my "negative" opinions from posters like yourself.


RIGHT...whatever. That's fine. lol
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Reply #834 posted 04/24/10 2:08pm

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seeingvoices12 said:



FLOP

He is a flop, everything he did is abstract and flop,even his biggest album in my eye is a flop and he will always be a flop....
confused

Nothing Usher ever did will be as floptastic and trashtastic as Invisible.

U WISH Invisible was 1/100th the amazing album that 8701 was. lol

Fail


Invisible? rolleyes , you don’t even know the album title.

Invincible was never a flop, it sold millions worldwide with Zero promotion, something that Blusher will never ever achieve in his entire flopped vanishing career

Who gives a fuck or knows about 8701 outside the borders of the U.S? Its not even a groundbreaking record ….and its dead record now…the same with his hit single “yeah” , which is dead now.

Whatever happens was enough to murder Blusher’s entire lifeless record.
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Reply #835 posted 04/24/10 2:15pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

sleepyq said:


Nothing Usher ever did will be as floptastic and trashtastic as Invisible.

U WISH Invisible was 1/100th the amazing album that 8701 was. lol

Fail


Invisible? rolleyes , you don’t even know the album title.

Invincible was never a flop, it sold millions worldwide with Zero promotion, something that Blusher will never ever achieve in his entire flopped vanishing career

Who gives a fuck or knows about 8701 outside the borders of the U.S? Its not even a groundbreaking record ….and its dead record now…the same with his hit single “yeah” , which is dead now.

Whatever happens was enough to murder Blusher’s entire lifeless record.

falloff

MJ went from 18 million to 7 million
Usher went from 7.5 million to 8 million

Flops are relative. Oh, and yeah- 8701 DID outsell Inivisible, spawn 2 #1 hits, and garner positive reviews from critics as well as 2 grammy awards.

8701 >>>> Invisible. Are we seriously debating this? eek
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Reply #836 posted 04/24/10 2:16pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

sleepyq said:


Nothing Usher ever did will be as floptastic and trashtastic as Invisible.

U WISH Invisible was 1/100th the amazing album that 8701 was. lol

Fail


Invisible? rolleyes , you don’t even know the album title.

Invincible was never a flop, it sold millions worldwide with Zero promotion, something that Blusher will never ever achieve in his entire flopped vanishing career

Who gives a fuck or knows about 8701 outside the borders of the U.S? Its not even a groundbreaking record ….and its dead record now…the same with his hit single “yeah” , which is dead now.

Whatever happens was enough to murder Blusher’s entire lifeless record.


You know he/she is mocking that title right? lol
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Reply #837 posted 04/24/10 2:25pm

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sleepyq said:

seeingvoices12 said:


Fail


Invisible? rolleyes , you don’t even know the album title.

Invincible was never a flop, it sold millions worldwide with Zero promotion, something that Blusher will never ever achieve in his entire flopped vanishing career

Who gives a fuck or knows about 8701 outside the borders of the U.S? Its not even a groundbreaking record ….and its dead record now…the same with his hit single “yeah” , which is dead now.

Whatever happens was enough to murder Blusher’s entire lifeless record.

falloff

MJ went from 18 million to 7 million
Usher went from 7.5 million to 8 million

Flops are relative. Oh, and yeah- 8701 DID outsell Inivisible, spawn 2 #1 hits, and garner positive reviews from critics as well as 2 grammy awards.

8701 >>>> Invisible. Are we seriously debating this? eek


Again, you are talking about shallow stuff, SALES, I have never measured MJ's talent by the number of records he sold.

But if you going talk about sales , Invincible sold millions with Zero promotion? what part of that statement you don't understand? ZERO promotion.


Invincible will live, 8701 is dead already.

That’s difference, who gives a fuck about his lifeless hits anymore, while people still listen to "don't stop till you get enough"

Blusher is nowhere near MJ.
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Reply #838 posted 04/24/10 2:27pm

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NastradumasKid said:

seeingvoices12 said:


Fail


Invisible? rolleyes , you don’t even know the album title.

Invincible was never a flop, it sold millions worldwide with Zero promotion, something that Blusher will never ever achieve in his entire flopped vanishing career

Who gives a fuck or knows about 8701 outside the borders of the U.S? Its not even a groundbreaking record ….and its dead record now…the same with his hit single “yeah” , which is dead now.

Whatever happens was enough to murder Blusher’s entire lifeless record.


You know he/she is mocking that title right? lol


Considering the questionable shit he said, I wouldn’t be surprised if he messed up that title.

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Reply #839 posted 04/24/10 6:23pm

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A Michael Jackson vs Usher debate?

Really?


Really?
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