why has this turned into an MJ debate

seeingvoices12 said:

Here abandoned in my fame
Armageddon of the brain
KGB was doggin' me
Take my name and just let me be
Then a begger boy called my name
Happy days will drown the pain
On and on and on it came
And again, and again, and again...
Take my name and just let me be


HEAVY stuff

And hey, everybody can ATTEMPT an "I'm hurt" song whatever, if it moves you,,,,,mission accomplished

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
To Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors
I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself

So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money
You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...

In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
The headline stories of
All your glory
It's slander

Ciara is a far better dancer than Janet ever was.

( )

Off The Wall is a masterpiece.

( )

Beyonce is overrated in every way imaginable (vocally, dance).

( to some extent I agree, but she's not so bad, just needs better material)

Madonna gets unfairly hated on.

(She's not really that good anyway.)

sleepyq said:

Now, you're trying to get cut.

DesireeNevermind said:

If it ain't Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Mahalia, Marion Williams, 1970s Clarke Singers,,,,I ain't got NOTHING to do with it.

sleepyq said:

Thriller's reviews were, at least, positive

And after the Billie Jean videoclip and the album's huge success, all the white critics of this planet celebrated Thriller as the next best thing in the world since color TV...

Bell Biv Devoe's music trumped Ralph Tresvant, Bobby Brown, and Johnny Gill's solo works

The Neptunes are better than Timbaland

George Michael's music with Wham! was more fun than his later work as a solo work

PM Dawn got a raw deal, especially with the KRS One incident

The Neptunes are better than Timbaland

Layzie said:

Seriously... MJ has NEVA danced so hard. It is what it is.
[Edited 4/21/10 17:17pm]

Layzie said:

Seriously... MJ has NEVA danced so hard. It is what it is.
[Edited 4/21/10 17:17pm]

bboy87 said:

But of course!

Bell Biv Devoe's music trumped Ralph Tresvant, Bobby Brown, and Johnny Gill's solo works

The Neptunes are better than Timbaland

George Michael's music with Wham! was more fun than his later work as a solo work

PM Dawn got a raw deal, especially with the KRS One incident

JoeTyler said:

I've never been a fan of Timbaland, but I'm a Neptunes stan so I'm biased

George Michael's music with Wham! was more fun than his later work as a solo work

sleepyq said:

I'm a fan of them both as dancers, but the same thing you said about Janet, it could also apply to Omarion

bboy87 said:

Oh, I agree. He was tryin TOO HARD with that LWP mess, it was so BORING. I mean, he is a wonderful melodic writer. Where did the tunes go?

Writers should never pander to critics. George went wrong with that one, yes he did.

Layzie said:

[Edited 4/21/10 17:18pm]

sleepyq said:

I'm a fan of them both as dancers, but the same thing you said about Janet, it could also apply to Omarion

bboy87 said:

I do believe that Omarion is very underrated as a dancer. He's definitely a better dancer than Chris Brown. That boy just dances weird.

sleepyq said:

I'm not talking about LWP. I love that album, and I wish he had released Vol II, but I can see where you're coming from. He was going towards the Jazz lounge by then

Older, Songs From The Last Century, and Patience. All good albums but....

Ciara is a far better dancer than Janet ever was.

Off The Wall is a masterpiece.

Beyonce is overrated in every way imaginable (vocally, dance).

Madonna gets unfairly hated on.

bboy87 said:

I have all the radio remixes of Older. I'm sure the original was a snoozefest, but not the dance remixes.

The sad thing is... the best track on LWP is a cover.

... Also he has a problem of making songs like 2 minutes longer than they need to be.

"Human Nature" is my all-time favorite MJ song.

Beach Boys 62-66 > Beatles 63-65

Layzie said:

Chris is one of those dancers who LOOKS for the latest fad and runs with it. He tried the jerkin' fad but since it's passing quickly already.....

Omarion is a superior dancer to him and Justin Timberlake

but I believe Michael and James, along with Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, and The Nicholas Brothers trumps them