IstenSzek said:

Wow, really? I don't remember that beautifully generous gesture Please don't hold it against me for future philanthropic sharings



I'll go out and buy this soon and report back

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

you know i won't!

WEll Rightly, do you feel like you have direction here?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

we've mentioned every album. i guess it's down to the store
and see if they have discount on entire discography purchase

IstenSzek said:

However SD is given the most love! Cause I say so!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

informative!
thanks
i will be checking out some albums, and I'll get back to you with my thoughts.

Rightly said:

You won't be disappointed

Just been playing this album, actually got a little emotional listening to it.

I love every song. I think the pacing and sequencing of the album works beautifully as well.






























Whatever you may think of Billy Corgan, you can't deny this is a great album.

I love, love, love Siamese Dream

mynameisnotsusan said:

SD actually makes me cry too, once in a blue moon.
The raw emotion really gets me. I'm not sure any other record out there does that to me.

Melon collie to me is the best cause it is the most varied and has some of Billy's most personal song's

But besides that there debut Gish is my 2nd favorite very raw and powerful

Siamese Dream is their "best" album overall, but Mellon Collie and Adore are right behind it IMO.

I just downloaded Machina II: The Friends And Enemies Of Modern Music a few weeks ago and have been listening to that. There are some very accessible tracks on that collection. Look it up online - it's a band-authorized free download. Maybe one day it will see a proper release but I doubt it.

I previewed the Zeitgeist album . . . not sure about that one yet.

Se7en said:

Zeitgeist is horribly mixed.. It has no emotions instead of live versions, which are much better - check out www.livePumpkins.net, there are plenty of audio bootlegs (for fans of Mellon Collie era: 1996-04-07 Dusseldorf soundboard bootleg is a must-have!).

IstenSzek said:

Mellon Collie is a wretched album. It's so overblown and full of Corgan's ego, but i think the main problem i have with it is the production. I think it's the worst produced Pumpkins album along with Gish. Even worse than Zeitgeist which at least sounds like Smashing Pumpkins.

zaza said:

That's a great bootleg!
I suspect Billy Corgan was aiming for an overblown saturated sound with Zeitgeist, similar to Queen II (one of his favorite albums ever), which was also produced by Roy Thomas Baker. Both albums have some really strong material (although I think Queen II is better) but the mix is too muddy and/or saturated.

purplehippieonthe1 said:

I have that bootleg even on dvd as video

You're probably right, that's the only clever reason why it sounds so bad. Tarantula is probably the only song which sounds good. Am I the only one who thinks "That's The Way My Love Is" sounds completely different than the other songs on that album? The volume is a little bit lower.