Timmy84 said: ViintageJunkiie said: What about The Jacksons?
*walks out* I cant seeeee! | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said: I cant seeeee! Is that better? | |
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Timmy84 said: ViintageJunkiie said: I cant seeeee! Is that better? LOL! Better! and YES, we need a J5 reunion on Monique's show YAAAAAS BAAAAABYYYYY! | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said: Is that better? LOL! Better! and YES, we need a J5 reunion on Monique's show YAAAAAS BAAAAABYYYYY! Dude, it wouldn't work because of ONE BIG problem and you know what it is. The best thing is getting Marlon on the show, which they have. | |
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Timmy84 said:[quote] jeami said: It ain't YOU, it's Ralph. Yes that's right. All of the members of NE have been sucessful because black folks have supported them since the beginning. Johnny has the best career because he did well during his solo career and he was a member of 2 groups that both did well (NE, LSG) with black audiences. Ralph and Bobby also did well with black audiences when they went solo. As I previously stated, Ralph said in the interview that BBD did well because they were a crossover success, unlike the other members of NE. When Bobby went solo, he didn't crossover as fast as BBD did. Then he ruined his success with his self-destructive behavior. I can understand Ralph's point of view. This is why I don't understand why he and Bobby, especially Bobby, act like they're too good for the other members. I guess I can understand why Johnny feels that way because it doesn't matter whether he works with NE or not, he'll have a career either way. But Ralph and Bobbaaaay need to quit. Your fans love you, but they want to see NE. | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: GREAT
They should also have an In Living Color reunion. April 15th makes 20 years. I wonder how many of the original cast members besides the Wayans (Keenan, Damon and Kim) would actually show up. I know Shawn & Marlon would be there and probably Tommy and David. Not sure about Jim or Kelly. But it would be interesting. | |
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jeami said:[quote] Timmy84 said: jeami said: It ain't YOU, it's Ralph. Yes that's right. All of the members of NE have been sucessful because black folks have supported them since the beginning. Johnny has the best career because he did well during his solo career and he was a member of 2 groups that both did well (NE, LSG) with black audiences. Ralph and Bobby also did well with black audiences when they went solo. As I previously stated, Ralph said in the interview that BBD did well because they were a crossover success, unlike the other members of NE. When Bobby went solo, he didn't crossover as fast as BBD did. Then he ruined his success with his self-destructive behavior. I can understand Ralph's point of view. This is why I don't understand why he and Bobby, especially Bobby, act like they're too good for the other members. I guess I can understand why Johnny feels that way because it doesn't matter whether he works with NE or not, he'll have a career either way. But Ralph and Bobbaaaay need to quit. Your fans love you, but they want to see NE. Johnny had a career before NE so of course he's kinda excused anyway. Bobby & Ralph can't sing anymore so whatever. | |
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Timmy84 said: ViintageJunkiie said: LOL! Better! and YES, we need a J5 reunion on Monique's show YAAAAAS BAAAAABYYYYY! Dude, it wouldn't work because of ONE BIG problem and you know what it is. The best thing is getting Marlon on the show, which they have. I mean, i KNOW why it wouldn't work, but i'm talking about more promo for...Jackson Family...Dynasty! *J-Fab voice* | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: What about The Jacksons?
*walks out* runs as shots are fired "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said: Dude, it wouldn't work because of ONE BIG problem and you know what it is. The best thing is getting Marlon on the show, which they have. I mean, i KNOW why it wouldn't work, but i'm talking about more promo for...Jackson Family...Dynasty! *J-Fab voice* They'll have a fight before that happens. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said: Dude, it wouldn't work because of ONE BIG problem and you know what it is. The best thing is getting Marlon on the show, which they have. I mean, i KNOW why it wouldn't work, but i'm talking about more promo for...Jackson Family...Dynasty! *J-Fab voice* Someone would be in heaven laughing at them "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: ViintageJunkiie said: I mean, i KNOW why it wouldn't work, but i'm talking about more promo for...Jackson Family...Dynasty! *J-Fab voice* Someone would be in heaven laughing at them You know it. Hell he's probably laughing NOW. | |
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How about Mo'Nique getting either
or Color Me Badd | |
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Timmy84 said: Let's see, let's run down the list on the post-New Edition success of all six members:
BBD "Poison" (#3 US, #1 R&B, #19 UK) "Do Me" (#3 US, #4 R&B, #56 UK) "B.B.D. (I Thought It Was Me)" (#26 US, #1 R&B, #63 UK) "When Will I See You Smile Again?" #63 US, #3 R&B) "She's Dope" (#9 R&B) "Word to the Mutha" (with Johnny, Ralph & Bobby, aka Heads of State now) (#13 US, #1 R&B) "Gangsta" (#21 US, #22 R&B) "Something In Your Eyes" (#38 US, #6 R&B, #60 UK) "Above the Rim" (#81 R&B) Johnny "Super Love" (#29 R&B) "When Something is Wrong With My Baby" (#57 R&B) "Perfect Combination" (w/Stacy Lattisaw) (#75 US, #10 R&B) "Baby It's You" (w/Stacy Lattisaw) (#37 R&B) "Block Party" (w/Stacy Lattisaw) (#63 R&B) "Half Crazy" (#26 R&B) "Can't Wait Til Tomorrow" (#49 R&B) "One Love" (with George Howard) (#77 R&B) "Where Do We Go From Here" (w/Stacy Lattisaw) (#1 R&B) "Rub You the Right Way" (#3 US, #1 R&B, #77 UK, #41 New Zealand) "My, My, My" (#10 US, #1 R&B, #89 UK, #31 New Zealand) "Fairweather Friend" (#28 US, #2 R&B) "Wrap My Body Tight" (#84 US, #1 R&B, #57 UK) "I'm Still Waiting" (#27 R&B) "Always" (w/Pebbles & Cherrelle) (#13 R&B) "Silent Prayer" (w/Shanice) (#31 US, #4 R&B) "Slow & Sexy" (w/Shabba Ranks) (#33 US, #4 R&B, #17 UK) "There U Go" (#21 R&B Airplay) "The Floor" (#56 US, #11 R&B, #53 UK, #29 New Zealand, #6 Australia) "I Got You" (#35 R&B) "Long Way from Home" (#42 R&B) "Quiet Time to Play" (#25 R&B) "A Cute, Sweet Love Addiction" (#46 UK) "Let's Get the Mood Right" (#53 US, #17 R&B) "It's Your Body" (w/Roger Troutman) (#43 US, #19 R&B) "Love in an Elevator" (#59 R&B) Ralph "Sensitivity" (#4 US, #1 R&B) "Stone Cold Gentleman" (#34 US, #3 R&B) "Do What I Gotta Do" (#2 R&B) "Rated R" (#69 R&B) "Money Can't Buy You Love" (#54 US, #2 R&B) "Who's the Mack" (#35 R&B) "When I Need Somebody" (#45 R&B) Bobby "Girlfriend" (#57 US, #1 R&B) "Girl Next Door" (#31 R&B) "Don't Be Cruel" (#8 US, #1 R&B, #13 UK) "My Prerogative" (#1 US, #1 R&B, #6 UK) "Roni" (#3 US, #2 R&B, #21 UK) "Every Little Step" (#3 US, #1 R&B, #6 UK) "On Our Own" (#2 US, #1 R&B, #4 UK) "Rock With Cha" (#7 US, #3 R&B, #33 UK) "The Freestyle Mega-Mix" (#14 UK) "She Ain't Worth It" (w/Glenn Mederios) (#1 US, #43 R&B, #12 UK) "Humpin' Around" (#3 US, #1 R&B, #19 UK) "Good Enough" (#7 US, #5 R&B, #41 UK) "Get Away" (#14 US, #3 R&B) "That's the Way Love Is" (#57 US, #9 R&B, #56 UK) "Something in Common" (w/Whitney Houston) (#16 UK) "Two Can Play That Game" (#38 UK) "Two Can Play That Game (remix)" (#3 UK) "Humpin' Around" (remix) (#5 UK) "My Prerogative" (remix) (#17 UK) "Every Little Step" (remix) (#25 UK) "Feelin' Inside" (#42 R&B, #40 UK) "Thug Lovin'" (w/Ja Rule) (#42 US, #16 R&B, #15 UK) "Beautiful" (w/Damian Marley) (#39 UK) Sounds like Bobby had the biggest success out of any of them. BBD was alright for a while though. Proof's in the pudding. Bobby was more successful by BBD by his damn self. Johnny was too and not even counting the shit he did back then like half crazy, i'm talking about his solo stuff post New Edition. Don't laugh at my funk
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JabarR74 said: How about Mo'Nique getting either
or Color Me Badd Troop could be on it, but I don't know about Color Me Badd. The members nowadays look unrecognizable. The long-haired, curly one's bald, the lead singer's fat, the sole black member ain't got his dreads and who knows what happened to that model-looking boy. | |
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The sole black member of Color Me Badd is singing
gospel these days. As far as Troop,everytime i hear about these guys all i can think about is those horrible gumby cuts and greasy ass curly hair. Jermaine Jackson had to father a couple of those guys. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: The sole black member of Color Me Badd is singing
gospel these days. As far as Troop,everytime i hear about these guys all i can think about is those horrible gumby cuts and greasy ass curly hair. Jermaine Jackson had to father a couple of those guys. @ Troop members being related to Jermaine Jackson, well anything's possible. | |
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Timmy84 said: jeami said: Yes that's right. All of the members of NE have been sucessful because black folks have supported them since the beginning. Johnny has the best career because he did well during his solo career and he was a member of 2 groups that both did well (NE, LSG) with black audiences. Ralph and Bobby also did well with black audiences when they went solo. As I previously stated, Ralph said in the interview that BBD did well because they were a crossover success, unlike the other members of NE. When Bobby went solo, he didn't crossover as fast as BBD did. Then he ruined his success with his self-destructive behavior. I can understand Ralph's point of view. This is why I don't understand why he and Bobby, especially Bobby, act like they're too good for the other members. I guess I can understand why Johnny feels that way because it doesn't matter whether he works with NE or not, he'll have a career either way. But Ralph and Bobbaaaay need to quit. Your fans love you, but they want to see NE. Johnny had a career before NE so of course he's kinda excused anyway. Bobby & Ralph can't sing anymore so whatever. To me Bobby was the most successful one. He crossed over big time with the Don't Be Cruel Album. He became a millionaire off of that album alone. BBd crossed over well. But they still wasn't as big as Bobby. Bobby made way more money off of one album then all of them put together in all his years in New Edition. Johnnie was very successful but never really crossed over like Bobby in any group he was in. Ralph never crossed over period. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: Timmy84 said: Johnny had a career before NE so of course he's kinda excused anyway. Bobby & Ralph can't sing anymore so whatever. To me Bobby was the most successful one. He crossed over big time with the Don't Be Cruel Album. He became a millionaire off of that album alone. BBd crossed over well. But they still wasn't as big as Bobby. Bobby made way more money off of one album then all of them put together in all his years in New Edition. Johnnie was very successful but never really crossed over like Bobby in any group he was in. Ralph never crossed over period. If ya'll wanna talk about NE, do it here: http://prince.org/msg/8/333981 | |
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To the folks saying Ralph & Bobby think they are better than BBD that's not true if you listen they said Heads Of State was formed because BBD booked shows as Bell Biv DeVoe they have been doin BBD shows from 2008-2010 so Ralph said they didnt' wanna sit around they had to make money and they are friends so it's not really a new group they just branched from New Edition plus Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis should get the credit for both side acts happening he told Ricky Mike & Ronnie in 1989 to form BBD cause Johnny Gill was doin a solo record with Motown. Ralph almost did quit in 1987 over issues with them voting Bobby out without his consent and Michael Bivins disrespecting him after a award show in 1987. Their is a recent Ralph interview where at the 1987 American Music Awards they were a quartet cauee Bobby was already kicked out and solo it was Ricky, Ronnie,
Ralph, & Mike. Ralph said folks kept patting him on the back for winning a AMA Award but folks was ignoring BBD Mike why Ralph always get all the love he felt in New Edition Ralph got all the attention he just wasn't as vocal as Bobby then he told Ralph we just business partners man we ain't friends no more and Ralph asked Mike what he was talking about & Ricky was laughing and told Ralph Mike was right then Ronnie just sat there laughed and shook his head. He told Bobby about it cause Ralph is the only NE member to not vote Bobby out he wanted him to stay similar to when everyone in The Temptations voted David Ruffin out except for Eddie Kendricks and they stayed tight and formed a side group with David's replacement when that replacement Dennis Edwards started having issues with Otis. This story is similar to New Edition's so their will be a biopic about it. Yes Johnny Gill had issues with BBD just not as much as Ralph & Bobby. They are all back best friends again but BBD still have shows comin this summer but all 6 puttin it back together this fall maybe August or September it was confirmed by both Ricky & Ronnie on twitter that they are looking to start the six man New Edition shows in August or September. Mike said at a recent BBD show at BB Kings that if anyone sees Bobby Ralph & Johnny tell them we ready for NE. He said it's gonna be NE time real soon but last year he said it was BBD time. So New Edition is still together the group is until BBD is ready to get on the road with them this fall. If a woman wants to be with Bobby still who are you to say he doesn't deserve love and I'm glad Johnny cleared up he's not gay this is no disrespect to anyone but I had to let you know the dael. To the person saying Bobby didn't make NE and was kicked out yes he was but he formed the group and convinced Michael Bivins to help him form the group when they was 9 back in 1978 32 years ago so they actually started a little over 30 years. Ricky was brought in by Mike & Bobby they all grew up in Orchard Park and played YMCA basketball together Ricky & Ralph were on the same basketball team and best friends Mike & Bobby were on the same basketball team and best friends. Ricky, Ralph, & Bobby all were babysat together as little kids and had a breakdance group called Click Clack & Clyde. Ralph said Ricky was Click Bobby was Clack and he was Clyde their breakdancing names. They through singing and rapping in the mix Mike came in with raps and was their hypeman so then they all got together because Bobby felt they should do a singing group Mike wasn't sure cause he liked basketball more but his mom said join Bobby's group cause ya'll are best friends and make some money so he did then they got Ricky then Ricky & Bobby told Ralph about the group one day when Ricky & Ralph were playing basketball at the court where they shot the Word To The Mutha video. Mike & Bobby said they rode to the neighborhood park on their mopeds to tell Ricky about singing and dancing practice Ralph asked what the practice was for they said a singing group so Ricky, Bobby, & Mike told he he can come so he said cool and he officially joined New Edition the next day they rehearsed with Brooke Payne. Because of his high Michael Jackson type voice Ricky who was the original lead with co-leads by Bobby was nervous about staying lead he admitted he was nervous to sing in front of the people at a talent show so Bobby suggested that since Ralph sounded closer to Michael Jackson that he should do lead. Brooke Payne let Bobby call the shot since he formed the group. Ralph asked Ricky was he sure he didn't wanna do lead Ricky told him to do it so Ralph became lead. But later Ricky & Bobby wanted their share of leads too they got some but not as much as Ralph did. They didn't bother devoloping Mike & Ronnie's voices much I'm talking about Maurice Starr so they became the group rappers. Ronnie was brought into the group by Brooke Payne after he named the group a new edition of the Jackson 5 but needed a fifth member so told the Ricky, Ralph, Mike, & Bobby about his nephew Ronnie and they said it's cool and Ronnie met the other four in 1980 at Bobby's house were he lived in the projects and they started jelling as a five man group and ROnnie taught them some new dance moves, They said man you can dance and Ronnie jelled fast with the other four and they all became best friends quickly and the rest is history. | |
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Well it's no shock that all six are all still best friends. They saw what happened to the Temptations. Hell they're in a much better shape than Boyz II Men right now when it comes to infraction within band members. | |
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Timmy84 said: Well it's no shock that all six are all still best friends. They saw what happened to the Temptations. Hell they're in a much better shape than Boyz II Men right now when it comes to infraction within band members.
Mike from Boyz II Men left the group because of his health problems. He suffers from scoliosis. That's why he had a walking cane. Since when have the other group members fought? I know that they've had disagreements, but they said that they made up and are on good terms now. I know they're popular in the US now, but I think that they still tour overseas. I don't believe Ralph and Bobby. I saw BBD on Unsung a couple of months ago and they talked about how Ralph acted shady in the past. When Ralph was ready to go solo, he didn't tell them, he just didn't show up for the awards show and they were stuck looking stupid. I don't blame them for trying to replace Ralph with Johnny. Ralph told them he was going solo, so they needed to move on to plan B. When BBD was on Unsung, they said that they were ready for an NE reunion, so that's old news because the show aired months ago. BBD also said that they went on tour because the lead singers of NE didn't want to be bothered with them. At that time, Bobby was still using drugs, so I'm sure that they didn't feel like dealing with the drama either. Ralph and Bobby are just trying to save face because BBD called them out on Unsung and it made them look bad. Everyone needs to stop hating them for kicking Bobby out of the group because Bobby is crazy, so I don't blame them.I'm sorry but Johnny is either gay or bisexual, no matter what he says. [Edited 4/14/10 13:51pm] | |
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Well we'll just agree to disagree. | |
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Monique is on BET right? | |
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Timmy84 said: Well it's no shock that all six are all still best friends. They saw what happened to the Temptations. Hell they're in a much better shape than Boyz II Men right now when it comes to infraction within band members.
Naw with Boyz II Men that's just Michael McCary Nate, Shawn, & Wanya still tight and are with each other almost everyday except when they chill with their wives and kids. They all have children but Shawn, Wanya, & Michael who left are married. Nathan said in a interview marriage wasn't for him cause the mother of his son Nathan, Jr. cheated on him shortly after they had their son together back in 1990 or 1991 while Boyz II Men were working on their first album. So if I do the math right Nathan has a 19 or 20 year old son. They rest of the members children are much younger haha. Nate did say that in a interview but he's been dating women but keeps it private they keep their lives private but most know that Michael, Shawn, & Wanya got married and everyone knows that Brandy's mother broke up Wanya & Brandy's relationship cause Wanya was six years older Brandy was 18 & Wanya was 24 when Wanya said they slept together though. Wanya was born in 1973 & Brandy in 1979 but Brandy was willing and a young adult but it they lasted for only a couple of years before Brandy broke it off and I think Shawn had to be knowing about their relationship when he wrote Doin' Just Fine cause he gave Wanya the most powerful part in the song haha. Someone on youtube said Wanya sounded like he was was singing to Brandy and he was right. That verse is how Brandy did Wanya. Then she had on Wanya's jacket in Almost Doesn't Count she was still trying to hold on but Mrs, Sonja Norwood broke it all up sad. That's why she don't want folks to know about her relationships now like Flo Rida. | |
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TD3 said: Monique is on BET right?
Yes she is. | |
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TD3 said: Monique is on BET right?
When the hell has BBD ever been on Unsung? but hey Johnny's gay so that must override the facts right Don't laugh at my funk
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Timmy84 said: TD3 said: Monique is on BET right?
Yes she is. That's aiiright go on and laugh. For real, they have BET, Centric, & TV1 all over the damn place on our cable. BET is on the middle thirties, I think TV1 in the 2 hundreds and the put Centric among the country and sport channel pay packages somewhere in the 4 hundreds. Making it a favorite doesn't solve the problem, hell we have 250 favorites. | |
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TD3 said: Timmy84 said: Yes she is. That's aiiright go on and laugh. For real, they have BET, Centric, & TV1 all over the damn place on our cable. BET is on the middle thirties, I think TV1 in the 2 hundreds and the put Centric among the country and sport channel pay packages somewhere in the 4 hundreds. Making it a favorite doesn't solve the problem, hell we have 250 favorites. From where I'm at, BET is the early fifties, TV-One is in the 1-hundreds and Centric is only 29 channels below it. | |
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Timmy84 said: TD3 said: That's aiiright go on and laugh. For real, they have BET, Centric, & TV1 all over the damn place on our cable. BET is on the middle thirties, I think TV1 in the 2 hundreds and the put Centric among the country and sport channel pay packages somewhere in the 4 hundreds. Making it a favorite doesn't solve the problem, hell we have 250 favorites. From where I'm at, BET is the early fifties, TV-One is in the 1-hundreds and Centric is only 29 channels below it. I'm jealous. When I get home, I'm calling Comcast cuz something gotta give. | |
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