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Thread started 04/08/10 7:50am

Layzie

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M.I.A.: Lady Gaga is a good mimic who models herself on Grace Jones and Madonna.

http://music-mix.ew.com/2...lady-gaga/

Q: Do you think those programmes [X-Factor] and the Internet have destroyed the mythology around popstars?

A: "I don’t know. Again, there’s Lady Gaga-people say we’re similar, that we both mix all these things in the pot and spit them out differently, but she spits it out exactly the same! None of her music’s reflective of how weird she wants to be or thinks she is. She models herself on Grace Jones and Madonna, but the music sounds like 20-year-old Ibiza music, you know? She’s not progressive, but she’s a good mimic. She sounds more like me than I fucking do! That’s a talent and she’s got a great team behind her, but she’s the industry last’s stab at making itself important-saying, ‘You need our money behind you, the endorsements, the stadiums’ Respect to her, she’s keeping a hundred thousand people in work, but my belief is: Do It Yourself."

Amen. clapping
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Reply #1 posted 04/08/10 7:59am

Marrk

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Somebody sounds bitter.
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Reply #2 posted 04/08/10 8:06am

Bishop31

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I have to agree with this statement. I actually liked Lady Gaga a lot BEFORE she became the flavor of the year. Now she seems to got out of her way to be the poster girl for Gay Rights and this odd outfit wearing star. The difference between Gaga and Madonna is that it really seems like a calculated effort by Gaga to be cool. Madonna just seemed a lot more in control of her career....artistically speaking.
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Reply #3 posted 04/08/10 8:24am

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Marrk said:

Somebody sounds bitter.

Yes. After all, right before Lady Gaga MIA was going very mainstream with "Paper Planes"...and then she was sort of forgotten... Obviously she has always been independent but appearing on the Grammys and other things...don't tell me she wasn't digging that.
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Reply #4 posted 04/08/10 8:29am

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I think it's funny (but not strange) how Gaga keeps saying that her fans will never see her not being dressed to the nines and how she refuses to wear "normal" clothes because people should be themselves and wear whatever they want and she's always been and dressed like that. Yet it's not even two years ago that she did her performances in jeans and a t-shirt. hmm
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Reply #5 posted 04/08/10 9:03am

Harlepolis

VenusBlingBling said:

I think it's funny (but not strange) how Gaga keeps saying that her fans will never see her not being dressed to the nines and how she refuses to wear "normal" clothes because people should be themselves and wear whatever they want and she's always been and dressed like that. Yet it's not even two years ago that she did her performances in jeans and a t-shirt. hmm


Yeah, she got sick of being a plain Jane lol
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Reply #6 posted 04/08/10 9:05am

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Layzie said:

http://music-mix.ew.com/2...lady-gaga/

Q: Do you think those programmes [X-Factor] and the Internet have destroyed the mythology around popstars?

A: "I don’t know. Again, there’s Lady Gaga-people say we’re similar, that we both mix all these things in the pot and spit them out differently, but she spits it out exactly the same! None of her music’s reflective of how weird she wants to be or thinks she is. She models herself on Grace Jones and Madonna, but the music sounds like 20-year-old Ibiza music, you know? She’s not progressive, but she’s a good mimic. She sounds more like me than I fucking do! That’s a talent and she’s got a great team behind her, but she’s the industry last’s stab at making itself important-saying, ‘You need our money behind you, the endorsements, the stadiums’ Respect to her, she’s keeping a hundred thousand people in work, but my belief is: Do It Yourself."

Amen. clapping



I love GaGa's live performances. But as for her recordings, I do echo some of Mia's sentiments with regard to some missing spark...

But you know, there are worse things you could go out of your way to be - "poster girl for Gay rights." In fact, if everyone on this board were that poster girl for just a little bit here and there throughout this rest of this month, that would be really nice. And fun. Let's support women men and children from around the world who lack equality in basic fundamental human rights. Thanking you all, in advance, for the great human rights work you are about to engage in. Judge not lest ye be judged.
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Reply #7 posted 04/08/10 9:11am

JoeTyler

Why does an underground artist talk about a mainstream dance act? It makes no sense at all...
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Do you imagine Radiohead talking about the Jonas Brothers?

MIA, I love you, but that was a cheap publicity stunt... confused
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Reply #8 posted 04/08/10 10:20am

dancerella

I'm with MIA all the way on this one. Her music does not project this extravagant image she has. It all seems so contrived to come across as weird or avant garde. Why is her music so pop? Dale Bozzio is the original Gaga and it seemed more genuine when she did it. Also her music was more of a reflection of her look as well. I would like to see Gaga make more left field music but I doubt she ever will.
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Reply #9 posted 04/08/10 10:44am

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VenusBlingBling said:

I think it's funny (but not strange) how Gaga keeps saying that her fans will never see her not being dressed to the nines and how she refuses to wear "normal" clothes because people should be themselves and wear whatever they want and she's always been and dressed like that. Yet it's not even two years ago that she did her performances in jeans and a t-shirt. hmm


Think logically... the Haus MAKES most of her shit. And two years ago, it wasn't like she or they had the money.
iSnatch, iRead, iDrag. For Beysus and in general. Simple.
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Reply #10 posted 04/08/10 10:44am

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Isn't this the woman whose biggest hook was played by the Clash 25 years ago?
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Reply #11 posted 04/08/10 10:50am

ratchetchan

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And M.I.A. was SO pressed. She brought up the woman three times without being asked, and NONE of the mentions were pertinent to the question she was asked. Last time I checked, Lady Gaga is not a television program or the Internet, so what the hell does she have to do with this question?

It's strange because M.I.A.'s so good you'd THINK she wouldn't feel threatened, bothered or whatever by "a good mimic", but evidently she does...
iSnatch, iRead, iDrag. For Beysus and in general. Simple.
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/10 11:17am

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Reply #13 posted 04/08/10 11:31am

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ratchetchan said:

[color=#ff6600:78f7a1e646]And M.I.A. was SO pressed. She brought up the woman three times without being asked, and NONE of the mentions were pertinent to the question she was asked. Last time I checked, Lady Gaga is not a television program or the Internet, so what the hell does she have to do with this question?

It's strange because M.I.A.'s so good you'd THINK she wouldn't feel threatened, bothered or whatever by "a good mimic", but evidently she does...[/color]

Again, jealous.

It almost happened for her and Lady Gaga came out with not only a hit song, but another and another and even her albums sold well, plus everything else.

She has something of a point, but the fact that the question wasn't really prompted shows that she is obsessed! Asking about "X Factor" or any of those shows has nothing to do with Gaga! It's sad because I think she's better than that.
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Reply #14 posted 04/08/10 11:36am

Timmy84

This is what happens when your shitty label don't support you, you resort to attacking another person who got more ahead than you, regardless how Gaga made it, M.I.A. shouldn't resort to this. I'm just glad Santigold ain't said nothing about it. I mean if Gaga wasn't such a bother, no one would mention her but now that she's basically "Ms. It" people wanna talk. lol
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Reply #15 posted 04/08/10 11:44am

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Harlepolis said:

VenusBlingBling said:

I think it's funny (but not strange) how Gaga keeps saying that her fans will never see her not being dressed to the nines and how she refuses to wear "normal" clothes because people should be themselves and wear whatever they want and she's always been and dressed like that. Yet it's not even two years ago that she did her performances in jeans and a t-shirt. hmm


Yeah, she got sick of being a plain Jane lol



Opted for a plain madonna/dale bozzio/annie lennox/gwen stefani lol
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Reply #16 posted 04/08/10 11:48am

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Marrk said:

Somebody sounds bitter.


Not exactly. Word got to M.I.A. that Gaga F*** For Tracks. lol Remember, Gaga's ex-boyfriend is suing her & Universal Music for payments.
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Reply #17 posted 04/08/10 11:51am

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VinnyM27 said:

Marrk said:

Somebody sounds bitter.

Yes. After all, right before Lady Gaga MIA was going very mainstream with "Paper Planes"...and then she was sort of forgotten... Obviously she has always been independent but appearing on the Grammys and other things...don't tell me she wasn't digging that.


But MIA isn't trying so hard to follow-up on her brief taste of mainstream crossover-pop success.
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Reply #18 posted 04/08/10 11:58am

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JoeTyler said:

Why does an underground artist talk about a mainstream dance act? It makes no sense at all...
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Do you imagine Radiohead talking about the Jonas Brothers?

MIA, I love you, but that was a cheap publicity stunt... confused


See, you have mess up already. disbelief OK Computer was NOT underground. As a matter of fact, fans of underground music don't listen to any freaking Radiohead.

Granted, Radiohead was too cool to talk to Miley Cyrus. Oh big deal! rolleyes Excuse all members of Radiohead, but Kid Rock was very cool in telling the ugly truth on how overrated of a band you are.
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Reply #19 posted 04/08/10 12:09pm

Timmy84

Tony, you done incur the wrath of the tin foil. Hell you mention Mr. Kid Rock? evillol
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Reply #20 posted 04/08/10 12:11pm

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ratchetchan said:

VenusBlingBling said:

I think it's funny (but not strange) how Gaga keeps saying that her fans will never see her not being dressed to the nines and how she refuses to wear "normal" clothes because people should be themselves and wear whatever they want and she's always been and dressed like that. Yet it's not even two years ago that she did her performances in jeans and a t-shirt. hmm


[color=#ff6600:627615c391]Think logically... the Haus MAKES most of her shit. And two years ago, it wasn't like she or they had the money.[/color]


You don't have to have a lot of money to wear more artsy clothes than a plain t-shirt. There are tons of people who don't have a lot of money but wear the most creative and odd things. No, I rather think someone suggested to Stefani to become more Gaga...
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Reply #21 posted 04/08/10 12:12pm

midiscover

Why is it always when one artist voices their opinion on another they're considered "threatened" or "bitter"? Last time I checked M.I.A is under an independent label, her whole style isn't contrived- she's an innovator and she doesn't make music to appeal to the masses like Gaga.

I agree with everything M.I.A said. But its amusing how some take Lady Gaga so seriously. Maybe, because she takes herself so seriously as well lol
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Reply #22 posted 04/08/10 12:15pm

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midiscover said:

Why is it always when one artist voices their opinion on another they're considered "threatened" or "bitter"? Last time I checked M.I.A is under an independent label, her whole style isn't contrived- she's an innovator and she doesn't make music to appeal to the masses like Gaga.

I agree with everything M.I.A said. But its amusing how some take Lady Gaga so seriously. Maybe, because she takes herself so seriously as well lol




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Reply #23 posted 04/08/10 12:16pm

Timmy84

Personally though she does have a right to her own opinion. I think it was the way of questioning in the interviews, like was Gaga ever brought up by the interviewer? If so then OK, I can see why she would wax poetic about it lol
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Reply #24 posted 04/08/10 12:21pm

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

Personally though she does have a right to her own opinion. I think it was the way of questioning in the interviews, like was Gaga ever brought up by the interviewer? If so then OK, I can see why she would wax poetic about it lol


Correct.

But read the question that was asked again and you may understand why M.I.A brought her up.
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Reply #25 posted 04/08/10 12:37pm

Harlepolis

midiscover said:

Why is it always when one artist voices their opinion on another they're considered "threatened" or "bitter"? Last time I checked M.I.A is under an independent label, her whole style isn't contrived- she's an innovator and she doesn't make music to appeal to the masses like Gaga.

I agree with everything M.I.A said. But its amusing how some take Lady Gaga so seriously. Maybe, because she takes herself so seriously as well lol


Because some people are just so damn fickle, they ask for the truth and honesty, and when they finally get it, they act brand new.
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Reply #26 posted 04/08/10 12:40pm

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Layzie said:

She models herself on Grace Jones and Madonna, but the music sounds like 20-year-old Ibiza music, you know? She’s not progressive, but she’s a good mimic. She sounds more like me than I fucking do!


What a stupid bitch! lol

She's obviously not listened to the full albums.

Anyway; what has M.I.A. created that was absolutely original? She'd be nothing without Diplo.
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Reply #27 posted 04/08/10 1:04pm

JoeTyler

TonyVanDam said:





As a matter of fact, fans of underground music don't listen to any freaking Radiohead.


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Kid Rock??? The Ed Wood of rock music?
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Reply #28 posted 04/08/10 2:12pm

TonyVanDam

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JoeTyler said:

TonyVanDam said:





As a matter of fact, fans of underground music don't listen to any freaking Radiohead.


eek


Kid Rock??? The Ed Wood of rock music?


Kid Rock was hip-hop first, rock second, and (sadly) country third. But thank goodness his music is more understanding than Radiohead's music nonetheless. cool

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Reply #29 posted 04/08/10 2:15pm

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Heres the thing, both are freaking Mimics of someone, we can pull out the laundry list of who GaGa is taking from just as quick as we can with MIA, they are just fresh for the current mainstream, the difference between them, the teams behind them, one has a major and another doesnt, plain and simple.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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