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Reply #270 posted 04/13/10 8:58pm

alphastreet

a former fan called baby be mine? And I remember the ads very well too
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Reply #271 posted 04/13/10 9:19pm

EmeraldSkies

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Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #272 posted 04/13/10 11:02pm

Vanilli

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EmeraldSkies said:




F*** the Batmobile.
I want one of those!

Are those real?
MJ Fan 1992-Forever

My Org Family: Cinnie, bboy87, Cinnamon234, AnckSuNamun, lilgish, thekidsgirl, thesexofit, Universaluv, theSpark, littlemissG, ThreadCula, badujunkie, DANGEROUSx, Timmy84, MikeMatronik, DarlingDiana, dag, Nvncible1
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Reply #273 posted 04/13/10 11:27pm

bboy87

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The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors
I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #274 posted 04/14/10 12:51am

NMuzakNSoul

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thumbs up!
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Reply #275 posted 04/14/10 2:42am

dag

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Happy birthday, Timmy. biggrin
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #276 posted 04/14/10 3:07am

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bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors
I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam


Great lyrics really, Overlooked by most fans, Underrated.
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #277 posted 04/14/10 3:16am

NMuzakNSoul

seeingvoices12 said:

bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors
I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam


Great lyrics really, Overlooked by most fans, Underrated.


YEP!
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Reply #278 posted 04/14/10 3:21am

Timmy84

NMuzakNSoul said:

seeingvoices12 said:



Great lyrics really, Overlooked by most fans, Underrated.


YEP!


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Reply #279 posted 04/14/10 3:21am

Timmy84

dag said:

Happy birthday, Timmy. biggrin


lol thanks. smile
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Reply #280 posted 04/14/10 4:41am

Swa

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bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors
I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam


What many critics, and some fans, fail to respect is Michael as a lyricist. Sure he wrote some classic love songs, and pop, but he also wrote some strong lyrics that have depth to them.

This is a classic example. The lyrics are often ignored because its a pop/dance song but when you stop and take them in his social commentary is pretty interesting.

When thinking of Michael as a lyricist for me the HiStory album is his most personal. Again it was a situation where he couldn't win for many critics. If he didn't write personal songs reflecting on what he had been through they would have skewered him for trying to sweep things under the rug or not addressing what was on everyone's mind. And for some critics the personal and often angry nature of the lyrics put them off "you were done wrong - we get it, get over it". But for me this was Michael at his rawest and most honest lyrically.

Swa
"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #281 posted 04/14/10 5:32am

AshK

That's the album that made me a hardcore MJ fan. I always liked him but seeing him go through that in 1993 and then come back with this made me fall in love with him. When I listen to it now though it's not that he's too angry because that was pretty understandable, but it's that it's missing the other parts of his personality that made him so endearing, his innocence and his vulnerability etc. In that way I sometimes prefer Invincible just because it's more varied.

It actually made me quite sad when I relistened to HIStory but I believe only a good album can make you feel anything, so I guess that's a good thing
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Reply #282 posted 04/14/10 8:13am

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Belated Birthday Greetings Timmy! All the best mate! smile
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Reply #283 posted 04/14/10 10:16am

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #284 posted 04/14/10 11:06am

angel345

AshK said:

angel345 said:


And here's another incident that really made me suspect that the industry is messing with him. Remember the 2006 WMA awards. The audience thought that he was supposed to sing that day, but it turns out that's not the case. In order to not disappoint his fans, he sung "We Are The World".



And STILL got criticised lol So much planning goes into these things, I find it very hard to believe no one explicitly says this is what is going to happen. I still don't understand why anyone thought he was going to perform as he didn't have anything to promote. It was just the WMA trying to hype up their show because otherwise no-one would have paid any attention to it.

As for the VMA's; MTV did what they did, because MTV is all about being POPular, and at that time mocking Michael was just that (and repetition it seems; Jack Black did a sketch on it the following year). Least he got some love the next year at the BET awards, probably one of the last times everyone saw MJ truly happy on stage (and damn he looked fine in those jeans!).

Oh yeah, the black media has always supported MJ, even until death, as he always looks mighty fine nod
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Reply #285 posted 04/14/10 11:19am

Timmy84

Marrk said:

Belated Birthday Greetings Timmy! All the best mate! smile


highfive Thanks. smile
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Reply #286 posted 04/14/10 1:13pm

dag

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Hot.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #287 posted 04/14/10 1:17pm

Timmy84



Wow is that for real? eek He looked great in red.
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Reply #288 posted 04/14/10 1:19pm

dag

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Timmy84 said:



Wow is that for real? eek He looked great in red.

No.


But he did look great in red. He often wore it which is good.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #289 posted 04/14/10 1:29pm

Timmy84

I had to be sure it was photoshopped. lol
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Reply #290 posted 04/14/10 1:31pm

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Timmy84 said:



Wow is that for real? eek He looked great in red.


Indeed it is. Happy Birthday!
‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #291 posted 04/14/10 1:33pm

Timmy84

carlcranshaw said:

Timmy84 said:



Wow is that for real? eek He looked great in red.


Indeed it is. Happy Birthday!

cool Thanks.
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Reply #292 posted 04/14/10 3:14pm

tangerine7

bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors
I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam


I've always admired the song,but more so the meaning behind it.
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Reply #293 posted 04/14/10 3:15pm

tangerine7


[Edited 4/14/10 15:58pm]
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Reply #294 posted 04/14/10 5:49pm

LittleBLUECorv
ette

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bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors

I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam

That line always had me thinking, did he mean brothers (literally) or just random people always asking for stuff?

Also, new J5 Live Album at the forum, June 22 from Hip-O-Select.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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Reply #295 posted 04/14/10 6:13pm

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors

I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam

That line always had me thinking, did he mean brothers (literally) or just random people always asking for stuff?

Also, new J5 Live Album at the forum, June 22 from Hip-O-Select.


Probably both his literal brothers and random folks.
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Reply #296 posted 04/14/10 10:37pm

Vanilli

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Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


That line always had me thinking, did he mean brothers (literally) or just random people always asking for stuff?

Also, new J5 Live Album at the forum, June 22 from Hip-O-Select.


Probably both his literal brothers and random folks.


I noticed the way "Jam" was edited in THIS IS IT left that line out of the song.
I often thought after his passing, if the song did mean his actual literal brothers, and since the Estate had to approve the final cut of the film, might have requested it be taken out. Just a thought.
MJ Fan 1992-Forever

My Org Family: Cinnie, bboy87, Cinnamon234, AnckSuNamun, lilgish, thekidsgirl, thesexofit, Universaluv, theSpark, littlemissG, ThreadCula, badujunkie, DANGEROUSx, Timmy84, MikeMatronik, DarlingDiana, dag, Nvncible1
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Reply #297 posted 04/14/10 10:57pm

dag

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Only Mike can be this hot and wear a Mickey Mouse leather jacket.lol

[Edited 4/14/10 22:58pm]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #298 posted 04/14/10 11:25pm

bboy87

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors

I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam

That line always had me thinking, did he mean brothers (literally) or just random people always asking for stuff?

Also, new J5 Live Album at the forum, June 22 from Hip-O-Select.

excited
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #299 posted 04/14/10 11:30pm

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out

I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors

I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout

She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself


from Jam

That line always had me thinking, did he mean brothers (literally) or just random people always asking for stuff?

Also, new J5 Live Album at the forum, June 22 from Hip-O-Select.


thumbs up!
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