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PrintableKCOOLMUZIQ said: Chic35 said: Nice interview I think it went well. It shed a lot of light on her relationship with Michael in his latter days, they were close growing up and kinda fell by the wayside as they grew older.
It was interesting to hear Janet say she walked outta the room full of emotion because she has dealt with issues of drug addiction in her relationships in the past?  I noticed she never said whether it was her or her counterpart. The character in the movie fits Janet to the tee.
I saw the movie last night and I thought the script was full of real life drama, and it was not all peaches and glory! I enjoyed the movie. I wonder if Tyler Perry has read any Lynn Harris books?  It was her counterparts. Both of her marriages was filled with drug addictions from her partners. The stories of Janet going to the hood late at night. Here in LA in her BMW looking for James Debarge were true. Rene had drug issues too. The troll had stripper issues and from what I've heard had orgies at his hotel while Janet was on tour. | |
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ReggaeQueen said: murph said: Apparently Janet didn't hate her that much to go on the show.... EXACTLY! It must be a slap in the face to be there to promote your movie but all the host wanna talk about is your more famous sibling, gotta hurt! If back in 97 Janet could say, 'I don't talk about my brother in interviews' what was stopping her from saying so now? People will do what they need to do for themselves when it suits them I suppose. True.... But That’s when your brother is MJ, MJ created a global iconic shadow that None of his siblings could ever escape…...Its sad but its true. MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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Like someone else already said you can't ignore the big elephant in the room - Janet knew Oprah was going to ask questions about him. It has nothing to do with his status or whatever. Oprah being a disrespectful twat took it to another level. | |
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midiscover said: Like someone else already said you can't ignore the big elephant in the room - Janet knew Oprah was going to ask questions about him. It has nothing to do with his status or whatever. Oprah being a disrespectful twat took it to another level.
Not u too..... | |
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murph said: midiscover said: Like someone else already said you can't ignore the big elephant in the room - Janet knew Oprah was going to ask questions about him. It has nothing to do with his status or whatever. Oprah being a disrespectful twat took it to another level.
Not u too..... Huh? | |
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midiscover said: KCOOLMUZIQ said: It was her counterparts. Both of her marriages was filled with drug addictions from her partners. The stories of Janet going to the hood late at night. Here in LA in her BMW looking for James Debarge were true. Rene had drug issues too. The troll had stripper issues and from what I've heard had orgies at his hotel while Janet was on tour. Rene is the worst! At least, James was using his own money to get drugs. | |
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murph said: midiscover said: Like someone else already said you can't ignore the big elephant in the room - Janet knew Oprah was going to ask questions about him. It has nothing to do with his status or whatever. Oprah being a disrespectful twat took it to another level.
Not u too..... I agree Murph...somethings NEVER get old.. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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phunkdaddy said: NastradumasKid said: Now all he need is his own coon channel and do his thing! Oh yeah,Why did i Get Married fits coonery to a tee but Lil Wayne and TPain are the definitive role models we all should look up to. As much as I can't stand Tyler Perry's ass(as you know, I think), I'll defend "Why Did I Get" to be the ONLY movie of his that is coonery free. Now the "Madea Picks Cotton" series on the other hand  | |
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MOL said: sleepyq said: I can't imagine WHY anyone would be mad at Janet over this. She's sincere as sweet and well- meaning in this whether u didnt like what she had to say or not.
Can u imagine how frustrating it must have been to watch Michael go down the way he did? Please. She just said "he didnt listen" and its very obvious he did not. From destroying his face, to messin around with them kids, to the substance abuse... its a mess. He ended up shutting out all the ppl who cared and surrounding himself with leeches and enablers. Its hard to watch as a fan, can u inmqagine what it must've been like for his lil sis to watch him self destruct? Whatever... I'mn waitin for MOL to come in here and come at Janet over this. I'm REALISTIC about the situation. I feel bad for Michael, because many ppl did him wrong, and am disgusted at the behavior of several of his family members, but at the end of the day, he was a grown ass man and he didnt need no fuckin babysitter. Oh, and Oprah is a 2 faced cunt with no sense of integruty. She really needs to just keep MJ's name out of her mouth. Janet hates her too. I'm sure she's aware of all the grease O been throwin at MJ. It was written aLl over her face. No, you're not. The last time MOL gave a shit about MJ and related stuff, she was a young innocent girl. I just don't care to persuade anyone anymore. I know I'm right, whether you do or not, is indifferent to me. At the end of the day, she's lying. Like Mark said, hardcore fans can prove that to you word-by-word (which is something I've done at least 3 times in Prince.org, but you prefered to ignore and you know damn well why). Slander the man's legacy with lies. Protect monsters like Randy, Joe and Jermaine and mentally handicapped people like Latoya while claiming MJ was a junkie. I just have done my best to distance myself from the circus called Jackson. If his own fans reject to hear the facts (and Janet's claims certainly aren't facts like I've proved countless times), what else can I do? If his own family is transforming this into a big business what else can I do? So, sleepy-squeeky-or-whatever don't expect me to get involved in this, because I've run out of patience and my days don't allow me to waste time with the guy. It's as simple as this: Michael will go down in history as a pedo-pervert-junkie-entertainer. Though I do not agree with this definition/conception (and could prove otherwise at any day of the week), that's the way people are gonna remember him. And I can't (nor do I want) change that. It's as simple as this. So, bottom line, stop saying my name! I've already written 3 posts proving that Janet is indeed lying. You know full well that I've done so, but your blinded eyes don't allow you to swallow that and I'm not going to waste my time writing them again. So, if you want an answer, go read them. Oh, you know what? You don't need to. This same Janet Jackson along with her family denied Michael was an addict one year and half ago. Justifying a relative's distance with calling him an addict is not so nice, but you can have it the way you want. [Edited 4/3/10 5:02am] Wow, you are REALLY off your high-horses with this one man. How do you know all this and whether or not Janet is lying? Do you know the family personally? [Edited 4/3/10 13:29pm] | |
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sleepyq said: Anyone remember this? janet used to be so fierce and confident.
U can HEAR her frustration. Its all very frustrating. [Edited 4/3/10 3:00am] She was never confident. Janet just didn't give fuck around this time 
Marrk said: Janet can't go into detail (times, dates etc) of these interventions, cause there probably weren't any, the most hardcore MJ fans knew where he was at any given time and could prove her wrong straight away. If Mike was that bad needing interventions and shit, he would not have had custody of those children, he'd have been ratted out for $'s by less trustworthy staff members. It's really that simple. 
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Harlepolis said: phunkdaddy said: Oh yeah,Why did i Get Married fits coonery to a tee but Lil Wayne and TPain are the definitive role models we all should look up to. As much as I can't stand Tyler Perry's ass(as you know, I think), I'll defend "Why Did I Get" to be the ONLY movie of his that is coonery free. Now the "Madea Picks Cotton" series on the other hand Okay, Why Did I get Married? wasn't bad, but all those other stupid ass movies... | |
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NastradumasKid said: Harlepolis said: As much as I can't stand Tyler Perry's ass(as you know, I think), I'll defend "Why Did I Get" to be the ONLY movie of his that is coonery free. Now the "Madea Picks Cotton" series on the other hand Okay, Why Did I get Married? wasn't bad, but all those other stupid ass movies... UM... Weren't you the SAME one who favored Madame Perry over Spike Lee in another thread? And now you actin' brand new? | |
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Harlepolis said: NastradumasKid said: Okay, Why Did I get Married? wasn't bad, but all those other stupid ass movies... UM... Weren't you the SAME one who favored Madame Perry over Spike Lee in another thread? And now you actin' brand new? Umm you got it wrong, I was using the Kanye incident with Perry and Spike as a joke.  DUH!
BTW, I don't even like that many Spike Lee movies but they're way better than Perry's crap. | |
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NastradumasKid said: Harlepolis said: UM... Weren't you the SAME one who favored Madame Perry over Spike Lee in another thread? And now you actin' brand new? Umm you got it wrong, I was using the Kanye incident with Perry and Spike as a joke. DUH!
BTW, I don't even like that many Spike Lee movies but they're way better than Perry's crap. Oh ok | |
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Harlepolis said: NastradumasKid said: Umm you got it wrong, I was using the Kanye incident with Perry and Spike as a joke. DUH!
BTW, I don't even like that many Spike Lee movies but they're way better than Perry's crap. Oh ok I'm sorry Spike Lee, but I have something to say. Tyler Perry Has the best Movies ever!!!!!"
That's what I said.  I don't see how anyone wouldn't get that. | |
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NastradumasKid said:[quote] Harlepolis said: I'm sorry Spike Lee, but I have something to say. Tyler Perry Has the best Movies ever!!!!!"
That's what I said. I don't see how anyone wouldn't get that.My mistake  | |
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Harlepolis said: NastradumasKid said: That's what I said. I don't see how anyone wouldn't get that.My mistake It's fine... I wasn't mad or anything...moving right along!  | |
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Marrk said: bboy87 said: Not all fans are calling her a traitor and bashing her (well, you are on MJJC so.... )
many fans are on her side, they just feel she could've been clear when this incidents happened or do a no comment because we all know what Miss Sophia was looking for
and you're right, this was supposed to be about Janet's new project but like I said, Miss Sophia wasn't havin' that [Edited 4/3/10 1:56am] Janet can't go into detail (times, dates etc) of these interventions, cause there probably weren't any, the most hardcore MJ fans knew where he was at any given time and could prove her wrong straight away. If Mike was that bad needing interventions and shit, he would not have had custody of those children, he'd have been ratted out for $'s by less trustworthy staff members. It's really that simple. [Edited 4/3/10 4:34am] He didn't look in good health for a while, so it was no shock to me he died. As far as this interview... I dunno.. It's really difficult for me to believe Janet. It wouldn't surprise me if she were lying to keep her family and herself from looking bad. But ya know.. MJ... well this has being going for years. He looked very frail at his trial.. He was showing-up in court wearing pj's and looking like a zombie. I just don't think ANYONE could have really done anything. Could they have had him arrested? What could they have done, really? It was up to MJ.. and unfortunately he was too far gone. The whole thing is just so sad. I got the impression she was "acting" on Oprah. I don't know; it was like she was playing a role, and badly! I'm sorry but her dramatic "acting" in that clip is comical! It's like there's no substance or depth in real-life, and it comes through on screen. Maybe she'll win a Razzie?! That might be a good thing..
[Edited 4/3/10 15:23pm] There's just something about Janet. Maybe she's guarded? Maybe it's just impossible for her to have a "real" moment at this stage of her career except perhaps in private? [Edited 4/3/10 15:25pm] | |
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Good interview. Janet is beautiful inside and out. I know Oprah can be tough that's what makes her such a good interviewer. Notice Janet didn't tug her ear once.
I saw the movie last night and I must remind myself to never watch a Tyler Perry movie in theaters again  The audience was a bit too loud for my liking. Janet's acting blew me away. Really good. I must admit the dialogue left me cringing at many parts of the movie. The ending was confusing. Tyler needs some work on his directing and writing skills. He is talented but I feel he's just wasting his talent. The Oscar crowd won't take him seriously with all this soup opera flicks. | |
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kenny88 said: Notice Janet didn't tug her ear once.
I know that tick! | |
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deadmansbones said: I got the impression she was "acting" on Oprah. I don't know; it was like she was playing a role, and badly!
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midiscover said: deadmansbones said: I got the impression she was "acting" on Oprah. I don't know; it was like she was playing a role, and badly!
You really think she was "genuine" on Oprah? Mmmmm.. interesting. | |
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What made you think she wasn't? | |
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midiscover said: What made you think she wasn't?
She's probably a hater. | |
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NastradumasKid said: midiscover said: What made you think she wasn't?
She's probably a hater. I think so too | |
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midiscover said: NastradumasKid said: She's probably a hater. I think so too  Yep! All I know is that people should have expected Oprah to do this. Everyone LOVES to hate Oprah. | |
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NastradumasKid said: midiscover said: What made you think she wasn't?
She's probably a hater. Me? How do you know I'm a "she"?
A hater? 
  
All kidding and/or insults aside, I'm gonna respond to this as honestly as I can, and I don't care if you think I'm a hater or not. It makes no difference to me one way or another. I just think Michael Jackson.. from what I've observed-- has been on a downward spiral for what at least a decade--maybe longer. It just seems to me the family would get all defensive when people criticized MJ basically saying he was just eccentric when all along it's apparent they knew he had more serious, life-threatening "issues." Now that he's dead Janet and the rest are all like, "We tried to help him... blah, blah, blah." What they tried to help him the past couple of years? Where were they before that? It's true; the bottom line is he was a grown-ass man, so maybe there really wasn't much they could do. But to get all defensive while apparently enabling him in certain situations, but now saying how much they tried to help him is a little suspect and convenient after he's dead. I'm sure Janet loved her bro. And she may have tried to "help" him. In fact, maybe she was the only one who really did try to help him. But... his free-fall has been going-on for quite some time. It just didn't suddenly happen with this doctor. This doctor just caused his death, but I have a feeling there were others propping-up MJ, knowing damn good and well the guy had some pretty significant MENTAL problems with depression at the very least--or he wouldn't have been an addict in the first place. But the family--including but not limited to Janet seemed too proud to admit it.. too afraid of what it might do to his legacy perhaps--the great King of Pop? Everybody expressing any concern or criticism was being unfair to MJ--not understanding him according to them. Hmmm.. well it seems there WAS really something wrong after all, or he wouldn't be dead. So it wasn't about just "hatin'-on" Michael and the Jackson family. So that's why to me-- just an outside observer more than a fan or hater, it all seems weird, and she doesn't come across as particular genuine. I do think it's sad he died. He was a great talent. I really liked his music, particularly his early stuff. And I repeat, her acting skills need some work! | |
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deadmansbones said: NastradumasKid said: She's probably a hater. Me? How do you know I'm a "she"?
A hater?
All kidding and/or insults aside, I'm gonna respond to this as honestly as I can, and I don't care if you think I'm a hater or not. It makes no difference to me one way or another. I just think Michael Jackson.. from what I've observed-- has been on a downward spiral for what at least a decade--maybe longer. It just seems to me the family would get all defensive when people criticized MJ basically saying he was just eccentric when all along it's apparent they knew he had more serious, life-threatening "issues." Now that he's dead Janet and the rest are all like, "We tried to help him... blah, blah, blah." What they tried to help him the past couple of years? Where were they before that? It's true; the bottom line is he was a grown-ass man, so maybe there really wasn't much they could do. But to get all defensive while apparently enabling him in certain situations, but now saying how much they tried to help him is a little suspect and convenient after he's dead. I'm sure Janet loved her bro. And she may have tried to "help" him. In fact, maybe she was the only one who really did try to help him. But... his free-fall has been going-on for quite some time. It just didn't suddenly happen with this doctor. This doctor just caused his death, but I have a feeling there were others propping-up MJ, knowing damn good and well the guy had some pretty significant MENTAL problems with depression at the very least--or he wouldn't have been an addict in the first place. But the family--including but not limited to Janet seemed too proud to admit it.. too afraid of what it might do to his legacy perhaps--the great King of Pop? Everybody expressing any concern or criticism was being unfair to MJ--not understanding him according to them. Hmmm.. well it seems there WAS really something wrong after all, or he wouldn't be dead. So it wasn't about just "hatin'-on" Michael and the Jackson family. So that's why to me-- just an outside observer more than a fan or hater, it all seems weird, and she doesn't come across as particular genuine. I do think it's sad he died. He was a great talent. I really liked his music, particularly his early stuff. And I repeat, her acting skills need some work! My bad, you're a guy, would have never guessed. Anyway, I don't care if you like Janet or not, because regardless, she was his sister. Besides, it's not like she wasthe one annoying MJ to do reunion tours. | |
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Essays? I mean ... really? | |
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