daPrettyman said:

Flop would indicate that it at least attempted to get up before it went horribly flaccid. This one didn't even make it out of the zipper.

ernestsewell said:

oh goodness

Usher was on Ellen yesterday and his performance of "Yeah!" was kinda disappointing. I was expecting some flips or something. Are my expectations for this guy too high or is he getting older now? or both?

Either way, I didn't check out the other performance of the new song at the end of the show. I had no interest in it. I think the movie "Hitch" helped "Yeah!" go beyond just being a "song of the moment" to one that people remember. It certainly says something that Usher couldn't open the show with one of his new tracks. I bet someone like JT could have just performed new album tracks and not relied on older songs from his "catalog." That being said, Usher kinda hurt himself by being in those lam-o Macy's commercials, releasing so many weak singles before the album dropped, and waiting way too long for a new album. This isn't 2002 anymore - no one is interested in waiting that long for these cats. Usher - Michael Jackson, you are not.

I will always have respect for Usher for the performance at Michael's memorial, but all and all, he just isn't for me. And it looks like his new album won't be for a lot of people. Maybe I'm wrong.... and cynical, but I doubt it.

While on the topic...someone should buy Usher this shirt.

ernestsewell said:

oh damn... nice one!
so what you are saying is some Cialis is needed here....

sleepyq said:

Overrated performer?

Off the wall is disco? believe me, you don't know what you are talking about………


And you mean Live performances or concerts? because there is a difference.


Usher’s performance sucked big time, no matter what he is doing, there is just something missing, he is not a smooth natural mover, I don’t see magic when I see him dancing.

Check MJ's performance of "remember the time" at soul train awards , he was sitting on chair doing nothing yet he was capable to drive the audience crazy, while usher is doing all this shit and still

Usher Cannot see MJ in any category…..

i haven't listened to it (and prolly won't ), but i was looking at it the other day when i bought badu's joint . LOVE hey daddy (daddy's home), but didn't like any of the singles from here i stand or that papers song . i might still give it the benefit of the doubt and bump it when i get a chance, cuz ursher's always been okay to me

BklynBabe said:

Can't nothing save that played out MFer.

Cinnamon234 said:

He fell of when he got married. As long as he was still a bachelor his mostly female fanbase was cool with him dating around. It gave them hope for that backstage hookup. The minute he got hitched and started talking about 'moving mountains' those same chicks were out like a scout on a new route! I remember when he hit NYC for 'Confessions' tour at MSG. That next CD had him at the Hammerstein Ballroom. See the difference. His material has always been generic R&B and never really innovative. I enjoy some of his songs but they're hardly classics. By putting the ex on blast with the first single it's clear he's trying to let those old female fans know he's back on the market.

HonestMan13 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

1. underrated songwriter, overrated performer

2. WTF r u talkin about? Don't Stop Til U Get Enough is WHAT? A rock song? "Burn This Disco Out?" Yes, thats a county jam.

3.he performed on TV like 5 times, WTF can i say? Compare all of Madonna's tours to Michael's tours then come back to me.

4. thats what u think. Ur not the whole world.

5. Britney Spear's fans also go crazy over her stomping around lipynching tracks. Ur point?

sleepyq said:

sleepyq said:

What the hell.

1-This is the first time I see someone says that MJ is Overrated performer, A person who knows about the music , artistry wouldn't say this, your statement is a joke, a good laugh.

2- What the hell you are talking about? Off the wall was never a disco record, Its pure R&B record, and if you insist on saying that, , then you are seriously ignorant, Just because there is a song called “ burn this disco out” on the album doesn’t mean it’s a disco record…it’s pure R&B.

3- I don't take Madonna seriously as an artist in the first place so, Never took her seriously ...don't bring her into the discussion.

4-when I ever said that I'm the whole world? .

5- Britney spears? again, you bringing Madonna and Britney out of the blue into the discussion.

Fail.

bye.

seeingvoices12 said:

Who do u think u r?

1. Yes, because lipsynching and doin recycled Rythm Nation moves in a golden space suits is soooo OMG!

2. If u think Off the Wall is pure R&B, u have no concept of what a musical genre is.

3. And the fact that u completely dismiss Madonna's career, creativity, longevity, and lasting impact shows just how narrow minded u r. Of course, u'd probably love seeing the same Billie Jean routine from 1983 in a 2009 concert.

4. well, then u should know ur opinion is irrleivant. The 350 thousand people who bought Usher's new album would beg to differ, anyway.

5. What's the difference between Britney Spears Circus Tour and Michael Jackson's HIStory Tour? Well, at least Britney actually changed the arragements and choreography for her old hits. MJ couldn't be bothered. Too busy worring about the design of his golden space suit.

OK, i'm done beign the floon police.

sleepyq said:

Golden pants and rhythm nation moves? LOL, weren't you one of those crazed Janet fans on her threads who claimed that Dangerous is rhythm nation, , you seriously ignorant.

You really sleepy and don't know what the hell you are talking about, you don't know the first thing about being a great artist and musician, and the prime example is the mediocre talents that you are mentioning to back up your false , flawed weak argument, Britney spears and Madonna

“off the wall” is not a disco record, Its funk ,R&B record, deal with it.

355 thousand people? OMG ...wow, Just wow, your argument is Just weak.

Just because MJ didn't change some of the routines in his concerts doesn't mean that he is overrated performer, being a great performer has more depth than that, only an ignorant fool would say this .
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i thought the performance was good. the song is just corny from a musical perspective, no one can sing that song live and make it sound good. still, he made a show out of it and had some nice dance moves. as far as the dancing goes, i'm really over this "hes imitating mj" thing. i mean yea, obviously he is inspired by mj, but mj got his moves from other people, who got their moves from other people etc...usher has his own style that has influences from many places, does that really make him a swagger jacker?

TheBoyfromtheBand said:

I wish I could see that style dude, I don't have a problem if he was influenced by MJ or any other artists, MJ was influenced by others.

But him and Justin and many others , don't have any unique style of their own, at least I don't see it.

TheBoyfromtheBand said:

Usher doesn't have his own style just like JT doesn't. They both emulate Michael Jackson.

Thread title should be:

Usher...Top or Bottom?

midiscover said:

Still bitter, i see.

U just mad that Usher proves that Jam & Lewis don't need Janet to be successful. Confessions and DJ were released in the same year. Confessions went diamond and DJ only managed to sell a mil. And we all know Usher's new album (in stores now) will outsell Janet's last album in its 1st 2 weeks.

We already know what ur gripe with JT is, i wont even bother goin over dat, i've said my piece on the issue.

seeingvoices12 said:

Oh, wow. I've never seen someone use so many words and say so little! U musta set a record! Congratulations, boo.

seeingvoices12 said:

Finally we're on the same page.

sleepyq said:

Actually, Midicover was right.

Both suck with no style, far from original.

sleepyq said:

what page

sleepyq said:

Why do you keep bringing Janet up?

Usher is a chop that doesn't have his own style. Fact.

sleepyq said:

Fail

You just dont know what to say...all your points are pointless

Awww!!! Usher got stans Werk!!

midiscover said:

Becuz u have no sense of objectivity when it comes to ur gurl. U come at anyone who proves that wut u say about her is wrong.

U dont like Usher mainly becuz he's currently the one who is keeping J&L in the spotlight. He proves that J&L can stay on top with or without Janet. U wanna say they were nothin without her. What is she without them, huh?

Ur opinions on JT r irrelivant as well. U just mad about the SB incident, so its obv u'll hate on him for any stupid excuse.

midiscover said:

I'm nobody's "stan."

Unlike u, i dont worship pop singers. Sry.

seeingvoices12 said:

Answer to wut? U didnt give me anything to reply to. All u said was:

oh ur wrong
u dont know anythin
nobody cares wut u think

WTF am i supposed to say to all dat? i dont speak 6 year old lingo. U need to take that back to the school yard!

sleepyq said:

Wrong. I'm just calling it like I see it- Usher IS a chop that doesn't have his own style. It has nothing to do with J&L. Both Usher and JT are little MJ carbon copies. These are facts. It has nothing to do with Janet but nice try

and I only worship myself, sis. I love Janet like she gave birth to me but I don't worship. Its too bad you think I do. KI! at you defending Usher
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