Love is love. You can't help who you're attracted to. I really wish people would stop judging others for who they choose to be with...

mimi2 said:

You sound white!!

Just kiddin, I agree

Cinnie said:

I'm black and I'm okay, but on top of that, I don't take Scott seriously at all. So what's your point my friend? What do you want me to do about her little remarks? I'm sorry if you're offended by her comments, but it's really about understanding.

Cinnie said:

....you know what? I'm gonna keep that joke to myself

mimi2 said:

I figured someone other than Cinnie would say that, although its true.

bboy87 said:

bboy87 said:

Don't even go there bboy!!!!!

NastradumasKid said:

MY point is... nothing so superficial could keep a real couple together anyway, so perhaps her "wince" is a bit shallow and... "old-fashioned".
[Edited 3/28/10 19:25pm]

Cinnie said:

Okay then...

Vendetta1 said:

Vendetta1 said:

It's actually amusing how folks insist on trivializing and oversimplifying what she's actually saying and are instead branding HER a racist. Classic laughable org,

jeami said:

and
But didn't you know that non-black Orgers are the authorities on the black, American experience???
Maybe us black folks need to stop being so sensateeb because obviously our feelings are never valid.

SCNDLS said:

The problem is that this isn't a topic that non-black folks can even understand. Notice how some of them got all butthurt.

Vendetta1 said:

I totally get it tho. This is just ANOTHER example of when a black person tries to have a dialogue about their perspective on race people who are not black or share this experience break their fucking necks to call us racist or expound on how WE should feel about racial issue that impacts us and not them. So, I can understand the frustration because it's a common occurrence in this joint.

bboy87 said:

Surely, you're making that up! you can't help who you love and e'rybody knows fat chicks and darkies are unloveable!
[Edited 3/28/10 22:05pm]

scriptgirl said:

I understand what Jill is trying to say but i agree with your last sentence,if
she gonna tell one side of the story,she needs to tell the other. Also Jill
needs to stop acting like interracial dating is just some new shit that just
started in 2000. Hell i live in South Carolina where there is plenty of racism
to go around but hell if you go to the flea market here it's not unusual to
see interracial couples walk around all day.
[Edited 3/28/10 22:18pm]

phunkdaddy said:

The numbers are NOWHERE near the same, so it's not apples to apples. Jill did not say she's against interracial dating anywhere in her statement. She is clearly speaking about feeling rejected by black men which is a sentiment a lot of black women share. Do black men feel like they've been rejected by black women in favor of white men? No cuz it ain't the same thing.

phunkdaddy said:

Me too, but at this point, it doesn't even matter, so some people need to suck it up.

SCNDLS said:

I hear you. If she would have made the statement in a specific arena like
pro sports, i would say she's probably right. As far as the general public,
interracial dating or marriage is nothing new and it hasn't been for sometimes
now.

phunkdaddy said:

Did you read her statement? She says in the first paragraph that this dude is an athlete. What you mean it ain't new? Open interracial dating/marriage was illegal in all states until recent history. But she's not even talking about that. Her point, I'll say it again, is about the rejection that she and a lot of women feel because many black men do not even consider us as viable mates. That's not an issue of, "Oops, I just happened to fall in love with a white woman." It's more like, ain't no way in hell I'ma be with black woman.

And as a black woman, and a dark one at that, who has had girlfriends of many races all my life I know EXACTLY what she's talking about. And no matter how open minded and accepting I am about the fact that all of my non-black girlfriends exclusively date black men it still hurts that EVERY time we go out most bruthas don't even give me a second look and have LITERALLY stepped on my feet to talk to my white, Mexican, and Asian homegirls. And that's been the reality for me for the 20 years that I've been going out and dating.

I'm not the least bit bitter about it cuz I gets mine. But for folks who will never have this experience to sit up here and judge her and her opinion when they don't know what it's like to stand in those shoes, is some bullshit and I have no problem saying so.
[Edited 3/28/10 22:39pm]

SCNDLS said:

I had to give dude the side eye for a minute for that

but one friend of mine is now starting to appreciate the chocolate...and he's liking it!

Meh.
When I was single if I saw a fine sister with a white guy I'd be pissed!

BUT it was because I wanted her NOT because the guy was white.
Unless you are interested in a particular person, getting upset because they're dating someone of another race is a waste of mental energy.

Wow...A woman who preaches so much love in her music disguises it with so much hatred. It's pathetic, really. It's not like SHE was a slave, which so many (like herself) seem 2 frequently and conveniently "hark back to" in order to drive their OWN obvious hatred home. She's obviously racist herself. I never ONCE looked at Jill Scott and "winced" at the sight of a large woman singing some of my favorite songs. I'm not like that. That's the problem with so many. They ARE like that. Furthermore, I'm a white brotha and if for ONE SECOND, I even voiced a similar remark, it would INSTANTLY go down as being racist, so Miss Jilly from Philly (and a whole lotta others like her) need 2 put themselves in "check." My Godmother's a Black woman. Never in my entire life, has she ever loved me less because I'm vanilla. She loves me for ME. I was also raised Jewish. I heard all that crap growin' up about "marrying your own kind," "dating outside your religion," etc...And y'know what? I always knew it was wrong. It's judgmental, it's hateful and it's prejudicial, no matter how you cut it up. Similarly, I wasn't one of those who crossed the River Jordan and/or was persecuted by any adversaries (except maybe in grade school when an occasional penney would be tossed my way as I walked on by.) Love is love no matter how u slice it up and love, has (or SHOULD have) no color. To think otherwise, is conditioning which is handed down and perpetuated throughout the ages. It's ignorant, it's intolerable and it's still here today. Miss Jill needs 2 shut her mouth and keep ugliness like this out of the public sector. It's not like she can afford to voice thoughts like these with her music sales steadily dwindling. I loved her "words and sounds." After reading this, I'm debating whether or not to toss all my CD's (by her) to the used record store for cash or credit. It spells racism and people have the audacity to wonder why it's still here. It's because of attitudes like hers. She wants 2 wince? She should record herself voicing the aformentioned hideousness and wince at that. And they say we're making progress? Where? Show me. I'm still seeing, hearing and reading it to this day. And what's there "to get?" Love has NO COLOR, afterall. Isn't that what I've always heard in MY life? I'll keep on perpetuating that belief, because it's beautiful and it's real and it doesn't reek of judgement. Beautifully Human, huh? Think again, You're showin' your TRUE colors and they ain't so pretty now. "Hate on me" if ya wanna, but you KNOW I'm right. Peace.

I was reluctant to read this for fear I'd be turned off by yet another artist I love based on personal views. But I actually think she voiced her feelings very well. I got what she was saying. She's not saying whites and blacks should not be together and she was very clear IMO that she realizes love can be found in many combinations. She is not negating any of that. The "bite" she mentions is part of her reality and a product of her life experience and we all have our own.
[Edited 3/29/10 8:56am]

sometimes the Black man/white woman thing has nothing to do with love....

A lot of successful Black men have put "acquiring a white woman" on thier list like a trophy...I've got my benz, my house, my rolex, and my white wimmen....

Tiger Woods? You think he screws around on Elin with other white women because of love?

Those are the men Jill Scott is wincing at.....because sometimes you wonder if the choice had anything to do with love at all.

I'm all for love. I'm not mad at my gay Black brothas, as long as they are truly gay and also aren't playing the DL game. I'm not mad at love....if a man wants to be with White, Asian, Indian, Latin, brown yellow Puerto Rican and Haitian and even Hasian as my man Chingy would say knock yourselves out.

Just don't front and try to sugarcoat it as love, because real love wouldn't see color at all!

whitechocolatebrotha said:

Yeah, the comedy continues. Were you this upset when John Mayer made HIS actually racist and disrespectful comments about black women? Did you post on THAT thread too?

PS some of y'all are asshurt because you have a big stick up your ass! If you're not a Black woman you can't even relate to the hatred we go through.

Here's some KY work on your own issues and stop trying to call racism where there isn't any!

[Edited 3/29/10 9:11am]

whitechocolatebrotha said:

Well, I'll be darned.

Are you a "white brotha" like Justin Timberlake or Jon B? If the latter, I was talking about how rare you all are a few pages ago, lol.

BklynBabe said:

Dayum... this one too.