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Reply #30 posted 03/28/10 2:41pm

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I don't hate her, I just don't agree with her opinion. She's not open minded
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Reply #31 posted 03/28/10 2:41pm

funkpill

Did anyone see her on Law & Order: SVU?


An heck of a role she played biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 03/28/10 2:42pm

NastradumasKid

scriptgirl said:

I don't hate her, I just don't agree with her opinion. She's not open minded


Apparently, you just don't get. confused
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Reply #33 posted 03/28/10 2:44pm

midiscover

What is there to get? nuts other then the fact that she's bitter.
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Reply #34 posted 03/28/10 2:45pm

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Exactly and while I am black, I never cared for "blacker than thou" people.
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Reply #35 posted 03/28/10 2:53pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

Cinnie said:

Jill Scott presents this piece as if she is revealing the black man's complex, but really it is just her own issues.



Sounds like she should probably give it a whirl herself lol

No she doesn't. She should get a fine-lookin' white man. Flip the script, lol.


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Reply #36 posted 03/28/10 2:54pm

NastradumasKid

scriptgirl said:

Exactly and while I am black, I never cared for "blacker than thou" people.



I guess that's how I feel about Afro-centrist. confused
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Reply #37 posted 03/28/10 2:55pm

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Here we go again. I don't understand why non-black people piss their pants when black folks talk about racial issues. Then they have the nerve to call black folks racist because these issues make them uncomfortable. Racism will always be a problem, so black folks are always going to talk about racial issues. Build a bridge and get over it.

I also don't understand why some of the other black folks are mad at her. Black folks need to stop ostrasizing other black folks that march to the beat of a different drummer. You may not agree with her opinion, but she does have a point. There are a whole lot of single black women out there. Many black women are single mothers and being a parent is extremely difficult. Some of you may not want to get married or have a long-term relationship, but other women do and they're having a hard time finding suitable mates. I know some people that are going through this right now. They don't have a problem with interracial relationships. They are frustrated because while black men don't have problems finding a mate, the same thing can't be said about black women.
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Reply #38 posted 03/28/10 2:57pm

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jeami said:

Here we go again. I don't understand why non-black people piss their pants when black folks talk about racial issues. Then they have the nerve to call black folks racist because these issues make them uncomfortable. Racism will always be a problem, so black folks are always going to talk about racial issues. Build a bridge and get over it.

I also don't understand why some of the other black folks are mad at her. Black folks need to stop ostrasizing other black folks that march to the beat of a different drummer. You may not agree with her opinion, but she does have a point. There are a whole lot of single black women out there. Many black women are single mothers and being a parent is extremely difficult. Some of you may not want to get married or have a long-term relationship, but other women do and they're having a hard time finding suitable mates.

and there it is.
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Reply #39 posted 03/28/10 2:57pm

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midiscover said:

What is there to get? nuts other then the fact that she's bitter.


For real lol

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Reply #40 posted 03/28/10 2:58pm

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NastradumasKid said:

scriptgirl said:

Exactly and while I am black, I never cared for "blacker than thou" people.



I guess that's how I feel about Afro-centrist. confused


lol my 8th grade teacher was of the "black on both sides" variety so to speak. she wasnt extreme with it tho. very cool chick
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Reply #41 posted 03/28/10 3:10pm

NastradumasKid

jeami said:

Here we go again. I don't understand why non-black people piss their pants when black folks talk about racial issues. Then they have the nerve to call black folks racist because these issues make them uncomfortable. Racism will always be a problem, so black folks are always going to talk about racial issues. Build a bridge and get over it.

I also don't understand why some of the other black folks are mad at her. Black folks need to stop ostrasizing other black folks that march to the beat of a different drummer. You may not agree with her opinion, but she does have a point. There are a whole lot of single black women out there. Many black women are single mothers and being a parent is extremely difficult. Some of you may not want to get married or have a long-term relationship, but other women do and they're having a hard time finding suitable mates. I know some people that are going through this right now. They don't have a problem with interracial relationships. They are frustrated because while black men don't have problems finding a mate, the same thing can't be said about black women.
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Co-sign. cool
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Reply #42 posted 03/28/10 3:11pm

NastradumasKid

Moonwalkbjrain said:

NastradumasKid said:




I guess that's how I feel about Afro-centrist. confused


lol my 8th grade teacher was of the "black on both sides" variety so to speak. she wasnt extreme with it tho. very cool chick



Really? Well, I've come across a few of them and they were very extreme about it. confused
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Reply #43 posted 03/28/10 3:14pm

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Ya'll mofos just don't get it.


No, I have grown to accept our similar views (despite my desire to continue our Fred Sanford/Aunt Esther relationship) but on this issue, I must disagree. We do not choose whom we love, period. Be it the person is male, female, black, white or any other trait that categorize them. Like Voices stated, Jill's comments have nothing to do with public sentiment and everything to do with her own feelings and her own generalizing of other's feelings.

Now, if she wants to address culture's misconceptions of what's beautiful (ie, everyone should look like Morgan Fairchild), well, that's a different subject and one that merits discussion IMHO. biggrin
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Reply #44 posted 03/28/10 3:15pm

midiscover

trueiopian said:

midiscover said:

What is there to get? nuts other then the fact that she's bitter.


For real lol



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Reply #45 posted 03/28/10 3:17pm

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jeami said:

Here we go again. I don't understand why non-black people piss their pants when black folks talk about racial issues. Then they have the nerve to call black folks racist because these issues make them uncomfortable. Racism will always be a problem, so black folks are always going to talk about racial issues. Build a bridge and get over it.

I also don't understand why some of the other black folks are mad at her. Black folks need to stop ostrasizing other black folks that march to the beat of a different drummer. You may not agree with her opinion, but she does have a point. There are a whole lot of single black women out there. Many black women are single mothers and being a parent is extremely difficult. Some of you may not want to get married or have a long-term relationship, but other women do and they're having a hard time finding suitable mates. I know some people that are going through this right now. They don't have a problem with interracial relationships. They are frustrated because while black men don't have problems finding a mate, the same thing can't be said about black women.
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She has a point and is speaking the truth but it's just a shame that it bothers her to see black men with white women. I don't think she can help the way she feels and it's this country's fault for it. But as far as a black woman having a hard time finding a mate, there is a whole world of other men out there besides just black men. A lot of black men aren't limiting themselves to just black women and she doesn't have to limit herself either. I see it this way, if white people are free to date every race under the sun, then why can't black people do the same if they wish to do so?
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Reply #46 posted 03/28/10 3:19pm

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jeami said:

Many black women are single mothers and being a parent is extremely difficult. Some of you may not want to get married or have a long-term relationship, but other women do and they're having a hard time finding suitable mates. I know some people that are going through this right now. They don't have a problem with interracial relationships. They are frustrated because while black men don't have problems finding a mate, the same thing can't be said about black women.


You have a point but Jill obviously has an issue with interracial relationships and seems to be blaming her lack of luck in the dating field to black men dating white women.
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Reply #47 posted 03/28/10 3:19pm

Timmy84

jeami said:

Here we go again. I don't understand why non-black people piss their pants when black folks talk about racial issues. Then they have the nerve to call black folks racist because these issues make them uncomfortable. Racism will always be a problem, so black folks are always going to talk about racial issues. Build a bridge and get over it.

I also don't understand why some of the other black folks are mad at her. Black folks need to stop ostrasizing other black folks that march to the beat of a different drummer. You may not agree with her opinion, but she does have a point. There are a whole lot of single black women out there. Many black women are single mothers and being a parent is extremely difficult. Some of you may not want to get married or have a long-term relationship, but other women do and they're having a hard time finding suitable mates. I know some people that are going through this right now. They don't have a problem with interracial relationships. They are frustrated because while black men don't have problems finding a mate, the same thing can't be said about black women.
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Reply #48 posted 03/28/10 3:20pm

Timmy84

vainandy said:



She has a point and is speaking the truth but it's just a shame that it bothers her to see black men with white women. I don't think she can help the way she feels and it's this country's fault for it. But as far as a black woman having a hard time finding a mate, there is a whole world of other men out there besides just black men. A lot of black men aren't limiting themselves to just black women and she doesn't have to limit herself either. I see it this way, if white people are free to date every race under the sun, then why can't black people do the same if they wish to do so?


Yeah, there's some who do find men of other races. This was just her own opinion I guess. shrug
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Reply #49 posted 03/28/10 3:22pm

NastradumasKid

Timmy84 said:

jeami said:

Here we go again. I don't understand why non-black people piss their pants when black folks talk about racial issues. Then they have the nerve to call black folks racist because these issues make them uncomfortable. Racism will always be a problem, so black folks are always going to talk about racial issues. Build a bridge and get over it.

I also don't understand why some of the other black folks are mad at her. Black folks need to stop ostrasizing other black folks that march to the beat of a different drummer. You may not agree with her opinion, but she does have a point. There are a whole lot of single black women out there. Many black women are single mothers and being a parent is extremely difficult. Some of you may not want to get married or have a long-term relationship, but other women do and they're having a hard time finding suitable mates. I know some people that are going through this right now. They don't have a problem with interracial relationships. They are frustrated because while black men don't have problems finding a mate, the same thing can't be said about black women.
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yeahthat


yeahthat Also!
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Reply #50 posted 03/28/10 3:24pm

NastradumasKid

Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



She has a point and is speaking the truth but it's just a shame that it bothers her to see black men with white women. I don't think she can help the way she feels and it's this country's fault for it. But as far as a black woman having a hard time finding a mate, there is a whole world of other men out there besides just black men. A lot of black men aren't limiting themselves to just black women and she doesn't have to limit herself either. I see it this way, if white people are free to date every race under the sun, then why can't black people do the same if they wish to do so?


Yeah, there's some who do find men of other races. This was just her own opinion I guess. shrug



Exactly Timmy, but the thing is that because of her statements, immediately Scott is deemed as a racist.
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Reply #51 posted 03/28/10 3:29pm

funkpill

So..

No one seen the SVU episode huh? rolleyes

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Reply #52 posted 03/28/10 3:30pm

NastradumasKid

funkpill said:

So..

No one seen the SVU episode huh? rolleyes

bored


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Reply #53 posted 03/28/10 3:36pm

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NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah, there's some who do find men of other races. This was just her own opinion I guess. shrug



Exactly Timmy, but the thing is that because of her statements, immediately Scott is deemed as a racist.


If you consider her comments a matter of race then you must consider straight mens un-attraction to other men as homophobia. This issue is one of preference, prejudice and culture. Yes, the topic is an important issue that needs to be addressed but, IMHO, to categorize is as a racial issue is to do injustice to true racial struggles yet to be overcome.
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Reply #54 posted 03/28/10 3:37pm

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I'm surprised that the moderators are allowing this topic to be discussed in two forums. I applaud Jill Scott for discussing this topic because most celebrities would have avoided the question or gave some PC answer.
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Reply #55 posted 03/28/10 3:47pm

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vainandy said:



She has a point and is speaking the truth but it's just a shame that it bothers her to see black men with white women. I don't think she can help the way she feels and it's this country's fault for it. But as far as a black woman having a hard time finding a mate, there is a whole world of other men out there besides just black men. A lot of black men aren't limiting themselves to just black women and she doesn't have to limit herself either. I see it this way, if white people are free to date every race under the sun, then why can't black people do the same if they wish to do so?

As far as Black women are concerned, it's not that simple. According to surveys and marriage records and what I see in real life, we are the least desirable mates for other races in the US. I mean, it's easy for me to say Jill should drop Black men altogether and date a Caucasian/non-Black dude, but what is not easy is actually finding one that is genuinely attracted to Black women. It's sad, but white/non-Black women are apparently the top choices for men, and that's where the resent comes from.....Black men can get an race they want, but the same cannot be said for Black women, for some strange reason.
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Reply #56 posted 03/28/10 3:54pm

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Jill Scott has had plenty of relationships and a marriage despite her size.

While people are free to choose whom they love, if you automatically rule a black woman out because she is black because of some perceived issue with us, it makes you an asshole.

Jill Scott is not a racist. This piece she wrote is about the above.

Jill says in a song "everyhing ain't for everybody". If what she said speaks to you, then you'll hear where she's coming from. If it ain't about you, keep the party movin'.

I have seen too many black men put black women down (especially on this fucking site) to dismiss what Jill is talking about.
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Reply #57 posted 03/28/10 3:55pm

NastradumasKid

Vendetta1 said:

Jill Scott has had plenty of relationships and a marriage despite her size.

While people are free to choose whom they love, if you automatically rule a black woman out because she is black because of some perceived issue with us, it makes you an asshole.

Jill Scott is not a racist. This piece she wrote is about the above.

Jill says in a song "everyhing ain't for everybody". If what she said speaks to you, then you'll hear where she's coming from. If it ain't about you, keep the party movin'.

I have seen too many black men put black women down (especially on this fucking site) to dismiss what Jill is talking about.


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Reply #58 posted 03/28/10 3:59pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Jill Scott has had plenty of relationships and a marriage despite her size.

While people are free to choose whom they love, if you automatically rule a black woman out because she is black because of some perceived issue with us, it makes you an asshole.

Jill Scott is not a racist. This piece she wrote is about the above.

Jill says in a song "everyhing ain't for everybody". If what she said speaks to you, then you'll hear where she's coming from. If it ain't about you, keep the party movin'.

I have seen too many black men put black women down (especially on this fucking site) to dismiss what Jill is talking about.


Jill is not a racist but her argument is a misplaced. This isn't as much about race as it is what our culture considers "attractive". For the sake of the argument, she would be smart not to confuse the two, IMHO.
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Reply #59 posted 03/28/10 4:01pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

vainandy said:



She has a point and is speaking the truth but it's just a shame that it bothers her to see black men with white women. I don't think she can help the way she feels and it's this country's fault for it. But as far as a black woman having a hard time finding a mate, there is a whole world of other men out there besides just black men. A lot of black men aren't limiting themselves to just black women and she doesn't have to limit herself either. I see it this way, if white people are free to date every race under the sun, then why can't black people do the same if they wish to do so?

As far as Black women are concerned, it's not that simple. According to surveys and marriage records and what I see in real life, we are the least desirable mates for other races in the US. I mean, it's easy for me to say Jill should drop Black men altogether and date a Caucasian/non-Black dude, but what is not easy is actually finding one that is genuinely attracted to Black women. It's sad, but white/non-Black women are apparently the top choices for men, and that's where the resent comes from.....Black men can get an race they want, but the same cannot be said for Black women, for some strange reason.


I agree and disagree with your post. Black women are very desired sexually by all races of men but are not considered marriageable. This has to do with black being a stigma. Many men (including black men) feel that marrying a black women will hinder their chance for upward mobility.
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