SCNDLS said:

I guess I'm one too since someone pointed out I have "an issue with race".

whitechocolatebrotha said:

That's very cool, but let me explain what I meant by mentioning those two names:

Justin Timberlake = Wanna be Black, but stabs us in the back.
Jon B (like Teena Marie) = Basically is Black, wouldn't abandon us for jack.

Jon genuinely loves our culture and is married to a Black woman, like Robin Thicke. Justin, on the other hand, perpetrated and used "love" for Black people (Michael, Janet, Ciara, Timbaland, etc) just to get over and then forget who we are.

I wasn't even thinking about their music. But thanks for answering.

SCNDLS said:

massa gon git you!

Cinnie said:

And if i'm not mistaken this was just a blog and I don't think she meant it to be a completely, thought out dissertation on her feelings about interracial dating.

Her question IMO isn't about why black men marry white women but moreso about why so many refuse to even consider dating their own women, who look like their mothers and sisters. That's a valid question that deserves discussion amnong US to resolve. That rejection hurts in all kinds of ways and I think she was just trying to explore that. But instead, she's getting labeled racist by a bunch of fucking hypocrites some of whom broke their fucking necks to defend John Mayer's ass.

NastradumasKid said:

Black racists of the world, unite!

SCNDLS said:

BLACK POWER BITCHES!!!!! I really don't understand why people are taking an innocent statement and making it into some "I hate white women taking our black men" mess. Oh this is exactly why certain subjects cannot be discussed among non-black folks.

SCNDLS said:

BLACK POWER BITCHES!!!!! I really don't understand why people are taking an innocent statement and making it into some "I hate white women taking our black men" mess. Oh this is exactly why certain subjects cannot be discussed among non-black folks.

Annika said:

Who the hell isn't being civil? I swear, ya'll some sensitive muthafuckas and I ain't got the time nor inclination to walk on your eggshells.

NastradumasKid said:

And why it was published by Essence!

NastradumasKid said:

That's why sometimes, don't bother. I've heard an argument elsewhere were black women were talking about black men who only date white women and the comment was, "What's wrong with a black man preferring white women? They are people too." That's what makes you realize that there's something being lost in translation.

SCNDLS said:

I don't know, I think rolling your eyes at me and telling me 'nice try' while completely disregarding my point (which, in essence, was agreeing with you) was pretty condescending, but then I suppose you're right, I am sensitive to this stuff. More fool me.

Cinnie said:

Essence Magazine? You mean that black feminist magazine? (J/K) I used to read it but I don't care for it now. I didn't realize it was in Essence, nor do I care.

I wonder what she has to say about gay dating.

http://www.essence.com/re...racial.php

Commentary: Jill Scott Talks Interracial Dating
Friday, March 26, 2010 | 12:20 PM

by Jill Scott

You know the moment when you realize that fine, accomplished brother is with a White woman? Let's call it "the wince." Three-time Grammy Award-winning artist, writer, actress, philanthropist, mother and all-around Renaissance woman, Jill Scott gets to the root of our feelings on the matter.

My new friend is handsome, African-American, intelligent and seemingly wealthy. He is an athlete, loves his momma, and is happily married to a White woman. I admit when I saw his wedding ring, I privately hoped. But something in me just knew he didn't marry a sister. Although my guess hit the mark, when my friend told me his wife was indeed Caucasian, I felt my spirit...wince. I didn't immediately understand it. My face read happy for you. My body showed no reaction to my inner pinch, but the sting was there, quiet like a mosquito under a summer dress.

Was I jealous? Did the reality of his relationship somehow diminish his soul's credibility? The answer is not simple. One could easily dispel the wince as racist or separatist, but that's not how I was brought up. I was reared in a Jehovah's Witness household. I was taught that every man should be judged by his deeds and not his color, and I firmly stand where my grandmother left me. African people worldwide are known to be welcoming and open-minded. We share our culture sometimes to our own peril and most of us love the very notion of love. My position is that for women of color, this very common "wince" has solely to do with the African story in America.

When our people were enslaved, "Massa" placed his Caucasian woman on a pedestal. She was spoiled, revered and angelic, while the Black slave woman was overworked, beaten, raped and farmed out like cattle to be mated. She was nothing and neither was our Black man. As slavery died for the greater good of America, and the movement for equality sputtered to life, the White woman was on the cover of every American magazine. She was the dazzling jewel on every movie screen, the glory of every commercial and television show. She was unequivocally the standard of beauty for this country, firmly unattainable to anyone not of her race. We daughters of the dust were seen as ugly, nappy mammies, good for day work and unwanted children, while our men were thought to be thieving, sex-hungry animals with limited brain capacity.

We reflect on this awful past and recall that if a Black man even looked at a White woman, he would have been lynched, beaten, jailed or shot to death. In the midst of this, Black women and Black men struggled together, mourned together, starved together, braved the hoses and vicious police dogs and died untimely on southern back roads together. These harsh truths lead to what we really feel when we see a seemingly together brother with a Caucasian woman and their children. That feeling is betrayed. While we exert efforts to raise our sons and daughters to appreciate themselves and respect others, most of us end up doing this important work alone, with no fathers or like representatives, limited financial support (often court-enforced) and, on top of everything else, an empty bed. It's frustrating and it hurts!

Our minds do understand that people of all races find genuine love in many places. We dig that the world is full of amazing options. But underneath, there is a bite, no matter the ointment, that has yet to stop burning. Some may find these thoughts to be hurtful. That is not my intent. I'm just sayin'.
[Edited 3/28/10 13:18pm]

SCNDLS said:

BLACK POWER BITCHES!!!!! I really don't understand why people are taking an innocent statement and making it into some "I hate white women taking our black men" mess. Oh this is exactly why certain subjects cannot be discussed among non-black folks.

MyMyMy said:

That's what I thought!!! They never did respond to my post to them. Oh well, I win!!!!

VoicesCarry said:

Im a black man and I love my sistas, but I get a kick out of how they always wanna bring up slavery when they talk about their relationship problems and black men. LOL! Jill, your birth certificate saids "1972", so don't even try it.

whitechocolatebrotha said:

Why don't you answer the question, "brotha"?
What was your take on that whole John Mayer thing?

NastradumasKid said:

Prospect said:

it's not just about slavery though. the year of her birth was not good for many brothas either. And shit wasn't it just the late 80s when that trick susan smith was blaming the death of her little white babies on the big bad black man?

when JIll talks about lynching she isn't just speaking on the brotha hanging from the tree in 1940s deep south. You can lynch a brotha in many ways. Hell they tried and are trying to lynch Obama and he the muhfuggin leader of the free world!

@@@@@ This thread
[Edited 3/29/10 15:12pm]

^ what does that say? I see an F.

DesireeNevermind said:

It was suppose to say F U oh well.

well you know racism has been totally eliminated now and just get over slavery already....

anyone telling Jews to get over the Holocaust?

I'm sorry Black people weren't still fighting for civil rights in the 60s and 70s? Rosa Parks wasn't still sitting in the back of the bus? We weren't still protesting apartheid in South Africa?

There have been no incidences of racism in the USA after the new millenium?!?

FOHWTS!

I don't care if a Black man wants to date a white woman, but that doesn't mean it doesn't get the side-eye (or wince) when I see it. Just like a fat person gets the side-eye when they order a supersize number 1 with a Diet Coke....
[Edited 3/29/10 15:21pm]

NastradumasKid said:

are you saying " fuck you " to me?

BklynBabe said:

never gets old.

seeingvoices12 said:

No!it was to this thread I have nothing against you at all.

NastradumasKid said:

Invite me to your house and cook for me soulfood if you really have nothing against me.....