How & Why in the hell can NO ONE in prince.org can begin to understand how deep the music industry has gotten itself hostage by the occult?!?





Seriously, WTF? Do you see THIS^?!?

Some orgers can waste their time in telling me how much they think (in their opinion) my whining AND complain about symbolism is "bullshit" all they want. But you would have to be very hard press not to agree that there is something very wrong with how much we as music fanatics are allowing the entertainment industry to sell this product to us like we are a bunch of dumb lambs that will drink every damn Kool-Aid favor they give us.

Yes, I'm equally guilty as charge for loving Lady Gaga's commitment in using synths in her music. But I can not AND will not back her up for wearing Horns Of The Baphomet!




And since we're also on the subject about artists that "sold out", check out THIS^ old video commentary by 1619symphony that he recorded back in 2008. Be clear that I don't agree with any of this man religious beliefs (as you will notice at the very end of the video). But everything else he is saying within the first 9 minutes of the video will definitely give you something to think about the very next time we discuss in future threads about Rhianna, Beyonce, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Sean Combs, BEP (especially Fergie), Britney, Ke$ha, and plenty of hip-hop/r&b artists that sacrificed themselves just so they can have mainstream pop success.



OK, rant over....for now.

please tell me why I should care.

Dude...

Sandino said:

I'll do better than that.

I need you to tell me why you do NOT give a damn that the entertainment industry are using your favorite recording artists as their pawns to make you accept their image as a good thing.

Once YOU figure it out, then you will know why you SHOULD care instead of NOT caring at all.
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TonyVanDam said:

My favorite recording artists currently are Stevie Wonder, Dafnis prieto, & Joe Lovano. I very much doubt they are being used as part of an entertainment conspiracy to convert me to the secret illuminati baphomawhatever that everyone and their moms doesn't care about. except for the conspiracy theorists.

Tiffany Evans approves your thread.

Sandino said:

And thank goodness that the generation that gave us Stevie Wonder never had it as bad as these modern day generation of artists in 2010.

EDIT: Oops, I forgot about the time that "They" killed Brian Jones. But you know, whatever.
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Aw shit

Harlepolis said:

Girl scoot over...

Tony, does this concern you because you actually believe the Devil excists or because you think it's disturbing that these celebrities think so and you're afraid they'll influence people to kill?



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TonyVanDam said:

This bores me... Is anyone else up for a game of basketball???

VenusBlingBling said:

Well, lets put it this way....

The spirit world is nothing to play with. Yes, I've been aware for years that angels and demons are real. Making deals with and/or making a mockery of the spirit world are just two of THE worst thing that a human can do.

I can't say it any better than that.

Paris9748430 said:

OFF-TOPIC: And you, I am so sick and tired of you making a mockery of other people threads (especially mine).

Your flamebaiting aside, If you don't like this thread OR any other thread, why do you even bother posting anything? Every time you do this, you look like a total hypocrite for saying that you don't care. But yet, you posting anyway.

Could it that THIS kind of thread on THIS kind of topic picks a nerve inside you? Or maybe, you're one of those rogue Freemasons. Or even better (or worse?), you are one of the pagans within the music industry that is so piss off at me because I have enough courage to talk about the entertainment industry when it is proven that they are doing wrong to their artists AND to the music fans.

Either way, I can really care less what you think of me as a human being OR as an orger. But I do care about are the facts.

If you can show evidences to myself and our fellow orgers in THIS very thread that I'm wrong about any of the evil within the music industry, I would love to see them. Otherwise, stop wasting my time and .! Because the more you keep go on and on and on that "you don't care, this bored you" bullshit, the more I'm convince that it's really because I'm telling the truth and you hate me for it.

End of.

There's always been evil in the music industry: greed, lust, vanity, and pride.

If you think your "favorite artists" (really had to not LOL at your list of "favorites") are part of some conspiracy, they ARE - to separate you from your money, however possible!

The lastest batch of musicians are so lacking musically, they have to trick you into buying their "music". Most do it by selling lustful imagery, while others go further and wear experimental fashion to be different.

Se7en said:

One of my all-time favorite rap artists wrote some songs where he was against anything The Powers That Be should for, even to point that he added the letter "K" to the world "illuminati" as a sign of total disrespect to whatever elitists that tried to control him and failed. And this cost him his life.

His name was 2pac.

TonyVanDam, there's nothing new under the sun. There were always artists "selling out" to one degree or another since....forever. Some of it is old industry folklore, some of it is not. It ain't nothing new. I'm not saying I believe dude in the video. But if you feel so strongly about it, don't buy it, don't listen it. Although its noble of you, you can't worry about whether or not your fellow orgers or people in general believe you. Make sure you work these things out for your own peace of mind and let the rest go man.

Minotaurs were mythical figures, I dunno what they symbolize within the occult.

TonyVanDam said:

How someone can like Tupac AND Lady Gaga is totally beyond me but I guess that is off topic. Anyway, to get back to your original question.....rumors about popular musicians being involved with the occult are nothing new, and I think you already know that ( Led Zeppelin, Ozzy Osbourne, Rolling Stones, etc.etc.) and none of those are really representatives of the occult today, are they? I think what one considers occult or suspect always depends on the time you´re living in....what one considers dark and occult may be someone elses "freedom" or personal rebellion against opressive "conservative", mainstream powers that be. It always depends on how you look at it.

And Lady Gaga and Jigga playing with those symbols to make themselves seem more important or to intimidate naive souls is not really impressive, it doesn´t mean shit and it definitely doesn´t mean that some people in higher positions, whether it´s wealthy families or secret societies, really care about these petty little mindgames of some fuckin´ pop musicians.

Another thing.....all those accusations and conspiracy theories are full of contradictions and false information, and are VERY dogmatic themselves.


This being said....has anyone ever confronted Jay-Z or Lady Gaga with these accusations? And what was their reaction? I´m not saying that they ARE into this stuff (and even if so...it doesn´t really mean much in the bigger scheme of things) but some of the symbolism they use can´t be denied. Then again, I`m saying they´re merely playing with these images and symbols in order to come across as important. I´d be very surprised if some "secret societies" really cared about a bunch of pop artists.

And why do you think that Brian Jones got killed? Don´t you think that the remaining Stones would have spoken about this by now if that were truly the case?

As I said, I do see your points about symbolism but that doesn´t really mean that those people really know what they´re doing.

TonyVanDam said:

I believe Pac was killed because he was going to eventually leave the label, not for disrespecting the illuminati. I mean what I was taught about the devil (at the end of the day, it's only about the devil- not his pawns) is that he's all about "seduction" He shows you your potential (same as God) and allows you instant access to that potential (unlike God). Pac (from what I read) opt for the "instant access" route; which the devil withheld that it comes with a cost and that cost is always your soul.
Wow, I feel the need to rant too.
There is soo much that can be discussed here, but how do the conversation get started w/o offending anyone's personal belief(s)? It can't.
But here's what I believe Tony. The devil is real, because God is real. The bible says it, my pastor preaches it, and my great, grand, and mother taught it.
Unfortunately, that in and of itself, that can be considered being influenced by an "occult" '
There are millions of bible, billions of preachers, and trillion of great, grand, and mothers passing it to the next generations. It comes down to which bible is used to base the religion.
Back to Pac, he also has "word vomit" issues. A lot people (including average, everyday, non-occult worshipping) had plenty of reasons to shut him up.
I just think his story is very sad, because he definitely had potential.
Actually, that could be another reason.
(the conspiracy theories surrounding Pac will never cease to exist)

good lord.

Do you have your evidence of proof that your devil you believe in even has horns or that are you just going on what 'the good book' says and going off other speculations?

How are they 'tricking' anyone to buying their music when the music industry is dying as we speak?

You been puttin up that same symbol on tireless threads now, and I know you are thinking why am I here, however since this is an open discussion for your rants we really feel like we have had it up to here and everything has been said that needs to be said already in Tiffany Evans thread and the Rihanna thread...

http://prince.org/msg/8/321986
http://prince.org/msg/8/325367

Baphomet does not even represent the devil or christianity version of what evil. personally i think its cool all the baphomet references..
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Timmy84 said:

make room.



hold on...let me turn up the volume.

**whispers**


Pac and Biggie were killed as part of a government conspiracy to destroy the rap/hip hop music industry and take control out of the black man's hands.

when i asked about all this illuminati stuff the other day, i followed a couple links. and came across this...

http://www.arrivals.techn...al-sorcery

episodes 11 - 16. it messed up my whole day.

watch at your own risk. hehe. in the end, i guess if you're looking for something, be careful because you just might find it.

only good vibes with music for me.
ok carry on.

*pushes DesireeNevermind over on the couch*

TonyVanDam said:

I think a lot of people look too deep into things like this. Even if they worshipped the "devil", it's their own personal belief, which is no different from someone worshipping "god"