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Reply #630 posted 04/04/10 1:33pm

dirtyman2005

tangerine7 said:

have any of you guys heard this kid?


yeah, this guys pretty awesome

sounds a lot like MJ.

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Reply #631 posted 04/04/10 1:44pm

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MyLuv229 said:

dag said:


Well, he had the greatest legs and ass that those dress pants didn´t show that well. Such a shame. lol


He wore these sparkly jeans several times in 2003. He also wore jeans in some paparazzi pics... either that or pajamas, LOL

I don´t remember seeing paparazzi pictures of him wearing jeans. Do you have any? Please post them.

Yeah, the sparkly jeans were cool.





I could do without those flashy pads or what it is. And look where his sunglasses are. Mike, you were just too much sometimes.lol


Mike and Cinderella.lol



Those tight black jeans weren´t bad either. I loved this look.

[Edited 4/4/10 13:52pm]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #632 posted 04/04/10 1:44pm

angel345

MyLuv229 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Even though you couldn't pay me to watch, I'm very surprised there were no secret surveillance cameras in Michael's bedrooms. All of this would be on film if there were.


I was thinking the same thing. If your going to have someone administer medicine to you, stay at your home overnight, and you're not awake - how could you not have cameras???

I'll admit there's something fishy going on. When he spoke out against the music industry, he was through. I believe that, but it remains a mystery.
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Reply #633 posted 04/04/10 1:50pm

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MyLuv229 said:



I was thinking the same thing. If your going to have someone administer medicine to you, stay at your home overnight, and you're not awake - how could you not have cameras???

I'll admit there's something fishy going on. When he spoke out against the music industry, he was through. I believe that, but it remains a mystery.

Exactly right. neutral

Murray needs to be nicely tenderized with fists. mad
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Reply #634 posted 04/04/10 1:54pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

angel345 said:


I'll admit there's something fishy going on. When he spoke out against the music industry, he was through. I believe that, but it remains a mystery.

Exactly right. neutral

Murray needs to be nicely tenderized with fists. mad

Hopefully, the truth will come out during the trial with Murray.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #635 posted 04/04/10 2:16pm

BabyBeMine

How do you know MJ didn't administer Propofol to himself? He eyes and mouth were wide open which could mean maybe he did in fact inject himself. There is so much emotion because your a die hard fan, but i think you have to be fair just like in 2005 you wanted things fair for MJ. Dr Murray needs a fair trial.

What if MJ did in fact do this and most ppl feel like he's lying about that. How would you feel? The entire world thinks your guilty and MJ is the one who injected himself. Thaty wouldnt be a good feeling would it.
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Reply #636 posted 04/04/10 2:16pm

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Why was this stuff never released? WHY WHY WHY???? FU*K YOU BASH*T!!

sad heart I love you so much, Mickey!!!
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #637 posted 04/04/10 3:03pm

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How do you know MJ didn't administer Propofol to himself? He eyes and mouth were wide open which could mean maybe he did in fact inject himself. There is so much emotion because your a die hard fan, but i think you have to be fair just like in 2005 you wanted things fair for MJ. Dr Murray needs a fair trial.

What if MJ did in fact do this and most ppl feel like he's lying about that. How would you feel? The entire world thinks your guilty and MJ is the one who injected himself. Thaty wouldnt be a good feeling would it.
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Because you can't administer Propofol to yourself

So he was knocked out cold in a supine position--catheter and all--awakens suddenly--and conveniently when Murray's not around--to get the propofol, prep it, and inject into his leg, lies back in the same position Doc found him in?

And didn't Murray say he sat there and watched him for 10 minutes?

from the autopsy report
Could the decedent have given propofol to himself? It is unknown where the propofol physically came from. It would have been difficult for the patient to administer the drugs (others besides propofol were administered) to himself, given the configuration of the IV set-up. The IV catheter was in the left leg. The injection port of the IV tubing was 13,5 cm from the tip in the catheter. He would have to bend his knee sharply or sit up to reach the injection port and push the syringe barrel, an awkward situation, especially if sleep was the goal. If only bolus injections via a syringe were used, sleep would not have been maintained, due the short action of propofol. Someone with medical knowledge or experience would have started the IV. Anyone could have drawn up and administered the medications after the IV was started
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Reply #638 posted 04/04/10 3:14pm

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dag said:

MyLuv229 said:



He wore these sparkly jeans several times in 2003. He also wore jeans in some paparazzi pics... either that or pajamas, LOL

I don´t remember seeing paparazzi pictures of him wearing jeans. Do you have any? Please post them.

Yeah, the sparkly jeans were cool.


The black jeans were the ones that I was referring to. He also wore jeans with a blazer in This Is It.

This is from 2004 when he was out with LaToya and the kids.




In grey jeans this year...


You can't see his jeans, but I like how he's super casual here with his facial hair, lol.


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"If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with" - Michael Jackson
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Reply #639 posted 04/04/10 4:56pm

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BabyBeMine said:

How do you know MJ didn't administer Propofol to himself? He eyes and mouth were wide open which could mean maybe he did in fact inject himself. There is so much emotion because your a die hard fan, but i think you have to be fair just like in 2005 you wanted things fair for MJ. Dr Murray needs a fair trial.

What if MJ did in fact do this and most ppl feel like he's lying about that. How would you feel? The entire world thinks your guilty and MJ is the one who injected himself. Thaty wouldnt be a good feeling would it.
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I don't feel sorry for deceitful people like Murray. If he was telling the truth, the story would not be changing so much.

Plus, this dude has that look in his face like Tiger Woods had before he got caught, so I read the words "SNEAKY LIAR" all over him. I don't trust anything he says. disbelief
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Reply #640 posted 04/04/10 5:29pm

tangerine7

dag said:

Timmy84 said:



cool

I wish he wore jeans more often. He looked so hot in them.


I agree. mike did seem to still wear jeans often in his recent years too,though. it seems like he liked his jeans and boots as much as his 'dress pants' and loafers.
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Reply #641 posted 04/04/10 6:12pm

BabyBeMine

Lets keep this real right now and get away from the sugar coating.

Any Dr who administers Propofol in a home setting for 150,000 a month most likely is a dirty Dr who was called upon because the patients other attempts to other Dr's was turned down. The fact that Dr Murray accepted, MJ knew this dude is a dirty Dr because he accepted.

Now considering he is dirty, what do you think he's going to do if anything goes wrong. COVER UP...Who's fault is that? Michael Jackson

You know dude is dirty because accepting that job means your a dirty Dr and MJ knew he was a dirty Dr cause he accepted the job. But MJ didnt look at that or the potential rest of his life with his kids. It was all about him.

MJ was more street, then many of his fans think. I bet that in closed door settings he told Dr Murray, look im paying you 150,000 a month. quit playing with that stuff where i cant sleep. Give me my milk. I can always hire someone else. How do you know MJ isnt manipulating? Didnt Lisa Marie say that about him.
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Reply #642 posted 04/04/10 6:19pm

BabyBeMine

1984 with Don King promoting the Victory Tour MJ got upset and told his brothers im done with this tour unless you get King off this promotion. When MJ doesn't like something he speaks out.

1988/1989 when Tatiana kissed MJ on stage, the excuse was it was his manager Frank Dileo who kicked her off the tour. Thats BS

If MJ wanted her on tour she should be there. Thats was MJ's idea. She kissed me and embarassed me. Send her home
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Reply #643 posted 04/04/10 6:22pm

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BabyBeMine said:

1984 with Don King promoting the Victory Tour MJ got upset and told his brothers im done with this tour unless you get King off this promotion. When MJ doesn't like something he speaks out.


Yet Don stayed on.....
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Reply #644 posted 04/04/10 6:23pm

NastradumasKid

BabyBeMine said:

1984 with Don King promoting the Victory Tour MJ got upset and told his brothers im done with this tour unless you get King off this promotion. When MJ doesn't like something he speaks out.

1988/1989 when Tatiana kissed MJ on stage, the excuse was it was his manager Frank Dileo who kicked her off the tour. Thats BS

If MJ wanted her on tour she should be there. Thats was MJ's idea. She kissed me and embarassed me. Send her home



Wow. lol
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Reply #645 posted 04/04/10 6:30pm

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...hollywood/


LOS ANGELES - Dr. Conrad Murray’s team is attacking a new report that claims to know his defense strategy in the coming Michael Jackson homicide case.

“We do not know what sources to which TMZ is referring,” a Murray rep told Access Hollywood in a statement on Sunday. “We only know it didn’t come from [attorney] Ed [Chernoff] who has the final word.”

The rep added that they “will not be trying the case in the press,” and were waiting to see how the prosecution intended to approach the case.

“In any case, it is premature to discuss defense strategy,” the rep said. “Dr. Murray’s defense will depend on the People’s theory of prosecution, which has not yet been made available to the defense team.”

Earlier on Sunday, TMZ reported that the defense team would claim that it was the King of Pop who injected himself with a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol — not Murray.

The doctor, who served as a personal physician to Jackson during the icon’s final weeks, is due in court on Monday.
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Reply #646 posted 04/04/10 6:32pm

Timmy84

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Reply #647 posted 04/04/10 6:33pm

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Timmy84 said:


"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #648 posted 04/04/10 6:37pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:






I swear it feels like 2008 with some of these responses. lol
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Reply #649 posted 04/04/10 6:40pm

tangerine7

Is there a version of Eaten Alive with Michael & Stevie Wonder? I had a lot of Thriller demos and other demos from a long time ago store on a computer and now I can't open a few. Maybe it was Slapstick i'm thinking of with both Michael & Stevie..? Insight anyone..I'm trying to collect them together once and for all off my computer(s)
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Reply #650 posted 04/04/10 6:41pm

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Is there a version of Eaten Alive with Michael & Stevie Wonder? I had a lot of Thriller demos and other demos from a long time ago store on a computer and now I can't open a few. Maybe it was Slapstick i'm thinking of with both Michael & Stevie..? Insight anyone..I'm trying to collect them together once and for all off my computer(s)

not with Stevie. He didn't collaborate on the song
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Reply #651 posted 04/04/10 6:42pm

Timmy84

tangerine7 said:

Is there a version of Eaten Alive with Michael & Stevie Wonder? I had a lot of Thriller demos and other demos from a long time ago store on a computer and now I can't open a few. Maybe it was Slapstick i'm thinking of with both Michael & Stevie..? Insight anyone..I'm trying to collect them together once and for all off my computer(s)


No I really doubt that he and Stevie did anything besides the two songs we know and their ill-fated '70s collaborations when Mike was still with the J5.
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Reply #652 posted 04/04/10 6:45pm

Timmy84

All this talk about how "ruthless" Mike was and cameras and shit, NONE OF Y'ALL were reading what I posted, which is POSITIVE:

NYC's Apollo to honor King of Pop, Queen of Soul

(AP) – 4 days ago

NEW YORK — Michael Jackson and Aretha Franklin are being inducted into the Apollo Theater's hall of fame in New York City.

The late King of Pop and the Queen of Soul will be honored with the Apollo Legends Hall of Fame on June 14 at the historic Harlem theater.

Jackson first performed at the Apollo at its Amateur Night with his brothers in the late 1960s. They won, and their career as the Jackson Five was launched.

Franklin is scheduled to attend the ceremony.

Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony will also be honored with the theater's arts and humanitarian award.

Past hall of fame inductees include Quincy Jones, Patti LaBelle and Ella Fitzgerald.

The theater is celebrating its 75th anniversary.
On the Net:

* Apollo Theater: http://www.apollotheater.com/

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Reply #653 posted 04/04/10 6:45pm

NastradumasKid

Timmy84 said:

tangerine7 said:

Is there a version of Eaten Alive with Michael & Stevie Wonder? I had a lot of Thriller demos and other demos from a long time ago store on a computer and now I can't open a few. Maybe it was Slapstick i'm thinking of with both Michael & Stevie..? Insight anyone..I'm trying to collect them together once and for all off my computer(s)


No I really doubt that he and Stevie did anything besides the two songs we know and their ill-fated '70s collaborations when Mike was still with the J5.


"You Haven't Done Nothing" ill-fated??!!!!! hmm
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Reply #654 posted 04/04/10 6:46pm

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BabyBeMine said:

Lets keep this real right now and get away from the sugar coating.

Any Dr who administers Propofol in a home setting for 150,000 a month most likely is a dirty Dr who was called upon because the patients other attempts to other Dr's was turned down. The fact that Dr Murray accepted, MJ knew this dude is a dirty Dr because he accepted.

Now considering he is dirty, what do you think he's going to do if anything goes wrong. COVER UP...Who's fault is that? Michael Jackson

You know dude is dirty because accepting that job means your a dirty Dr and MJ knew he was a dirty Dr cause he accepted the job. But MJ didnt look at that or the potential rest of his life with his kids. It was all about him.

MJ was more street, then many of his fans think.
I bet that in closed door settings he told Dr Murray, look im paying you 150,000 a month. quit playing with that stuff where i cant sleep. Give me my milk. I can always hire someone else. How do you know MJ isnt manipulating? Didnt Lisa Marie say that about him.
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giggle No he wasn't. Michael was very much suburban, LOL.
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Reply #655 posted 04/04/10 6:47pm

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Timmy84 said:

tangerine7 said:

Is there a version of Eaten Alive with Michael & Stevie Wonder? I had a lot of Thriller demos and other demos from a long time ago store on a computer and now I can't open a few. Maybe it was Slapstick i'm thinking of with both Michael & Stevie..? Insight anyone..I'm trying to collect them together once and for all off my computer(s)


No I really doubt that he and Stevie did anything besides the two songs we know and their ill-fated '70s collaborations when Mike was still with the J5.

You've Haven't Done Nothin'
the 1974 project (which I think we'll be hearing more from soon)
All I Do
We Are The World
Stevie wrote a song for Thriller (I forgot the title)
Get It
Just Good Friends
A song from the 1974 project that they re-recorded for probably Dangerous


not to mention all the covers The Jackson 5 did of Stevie's songs (released and unreleased)

and we all know they performed Bad in Brisbane Australia in 1987
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Reply #656 posted 04/04/10 6:51pm

NastradumasKid

WaterInYourBath said:

BabyBeMine said:

Lets keep this real right now and get away from the sugar coating.

Any Dr who administers Propofol in a home setting for 150,000 a month most likely is a dirty Dr who was called upon because the patients other attempts to other Dr's was turned down. The fact that Dr Murray accepted, MJ knew this dude is a dirty Dr because he accepted.

Now considering he is dirty, what do you think he's going to do if anything goes wrong. COVER UP...Who's fault is that? Michael Jackson

You know dude is dirty because accepting that job means your a dirty Dr and MJ knew he was a dirty Dr cause he accepted the job. But MJ didnt look at that or the potential rest of his life with his kids. It was all about him.

MJ was more street, then many of his fans think.
I bet that in closed door settings he told Dr Murray, look im paying you 150,000 a month. quit playing with that stuff where i cant sleep. Give me my milk. I can always hire someone else. How do you know MJ isnt manipulating? Didnt Lisa Marie say that about him.
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giggle No he wasn't. Michael was very much suburban, LOL.



You can take the kid out of Gary, but you can't take the Gary out of the kid. wink
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Reply #657 posted 04/04/10 6:52pm

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Reply #658 posted 04/04/10 6:53pm

Timmy84

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:



No I really doubt that he and Stevie did anything besides the two songs we know and their ill-fated '70s collaborations when Mike was still with the J5.


"You Haven't Done Nothing" ill-fated??!!!!! hmm


NOT THAT! brick
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Reply #659 posted 04/04/10 6:55pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



No I really doubt that he and Stevie did anything besides the two songs we know and their ill-fated '70s collaborations when Mike was still with the J5.

You've Haven't Done Nothin'
the 1974 project (which I think we'll be hearing more from soon)
All I Do
We Are The World
Stevie wrote a song for Thriller (I forgot the title)
Get It
Just Good Friends
A song from the 1974 project that they re-recorded for probably Dangerous


not to mention all the covers The Jackson 5 did of Stevie's songs (released and unreleased)

and we all know they performed Bad in Brisbane Australia in 1987


Was it a full album they did? hmmm I know Stevie was working with the Supremes around the same time. He was gonna do a full album on them but either he had to work on his own stuff or Berry Gordy didn't allow it to be released.
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