NastradumasKid said:

Wait, what?

Layzie said:

Me too, I have Thriller Mike but he's missing the jacket, shoes, and socks!!!

Murray's defense is that Michael KILLED HIMSELF???? WHAT KINDA BS IS THIS?

http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...l-defense/

NastradumasKid said:

i have mine too and mike's missing his loafers.

tangerine7 said:

so much for Ebay!

NastradumasKid said:

Militant said:

If true, what an asshole. He ain't gonna win his day in court if that's the excuse he can come up with.

Bboy's comments though does put things in perspective. I rather focus on the positive.

Murray's defense is that Michael KILLED HIMSELF???? WHAT KINDA BS IS THIS?

http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...l-defense/

Militant said:

That don't even add up. Did "Doctor" Murray's dosage actually synergize with the Ativan and Versed to put him asleep for extra or not?

"Doctor" Murray left for the bathroom and that was when MJ
a) woke up from the original dose + Ativan + Versed
b) administered the additional dose

I'm just not buyin' it. How can they suggest MJ was "frustrated" about trying to sleep in vain if he was knocked out from the original dose and Ativan and Versed.

I'm reading 2 stories here. It sounds like some bullshit.

WaterInYourBath said:

PUSSY!

Militant said:

That don't even add up. Did "Doctor" Murray's dosage actually synergize with the Ativan and Versed to put him asleep for extra or not?

"Doctor" Murray left for the bathroom and that was when MJ
a) woke up from the original dose + Ativan + Versed
b) administered the additional dose

I'm just not buyin' it. How can they suggest MJ was "frustrated" about trying to sleep in vain if he was knocked out from the original dose and Ativan and Versed.

I'm reading 2 stories here. It sounds like a mix of the truth and some bullshit.

NastradumasKid said:

[Edited 4/4/10 10:22am]

http://www.sligochampion.ie/temp/jackson-was-a-down-to-earth-doting-father-recalls-sligo-puppeteer-1803566.html

Jackson was a 'down to earth doting father' recalls Sligo puppeteer

Wednesday July 01 2009

A Sligoman who became an unlikely friend of pop icon, Michael Jackson, has described him as a "downto-earth doting father" who had casually arrived at his Dublin home in "a banger of a car" to celebrate his 48th birthday.

Master puppeteer, Eugene Lambert, told THE SLIGO CHAMPION how his famous puppet, 'Judge' from the 'Wanderly Wagon' TV series had sung ' happy birthday' to the tragic superstar as members of the Lambert family hosted Jackson at their Monkstown, Co. Dublin home eighteen months ago.

"Michael arrived in a banger of a car, with his three children. There was no big entourage, just one security man and an au-pair. They spent over two hours with us, enjoying a show we put on for them and then sitting around having tea and scones. When we discovered it was Michael's birthday, Judge sang him the happy birthday song and Michael happily sang along. It was a great day, a lovely memory," Eugene recalled.

Another memory Eugene cherishes from that special visit is of the global pop icon gleefully filling his pockets with sweets from a small shop in the Lambert Puppet Theatre.

"We have a small sweet shop in the theatre, and as we were about to start a show for Michael and his children, one of the kids asked if they could have sweets. I told the lad to help himself, and the next thing Michael was in the shop filling his pockets. He was quite literally the child let loose in the sweet shop, and he loved it," Eugene said.

Despite the allegations which were later to emerge about the singer's peculiar relationship with young children, the Sligo born grandfather said he only saw evidence of a doting father who loved his children.

"He clearly loved his children, and they equally loved him. They had a lovely, normal relationship. He struck me as a very kind, gentle person. The children were perfectly behaved, they had impeccable manners and they wouldn't touch anything without permission.

"It was very much a normal family scene, and I really couldn't relate the person I met to the man portrayed in the media. To me, he was an ordinary, lovely man, and we got on really well together. I was quite fond of him," Eugene said.

The birthday visit was the second occasion on which Michael Jackson had called to the Lambert Theatre. The first was in 1992 when the family was given a half hour's notice of the impending arrival of one of the most famous men in the world, who duly arrived with an entourage which included two stretch limousines, a huge van and about a dozen minders.

Eugene recalls: "He had a great interest in children's theatre and had asked to visit us. It was panic stations when we were told he would be with us in about half an hour, but we got everything ready and it all worked out very well,"

Initially, Eugene recalls, Jackson struck him as a chronically shy man, but when they found common ground in their admiration for the mime artist, Marcel Marceau, the star soon relaxed.

"He was very impressed with a poster we had of Marcel Marceau, and when I showed him some etchings we had of the great man he was very excited. We chatted for about two hours. He had a great passion for children's literature and Russian folklore, and we put on a little puppet show for him which he really enjoyed. Once the ice was broken, he was extremely relaxed and said that he would love to stay longer with us," according to Eugene.

While he has a treasured autograph as a testimony of his friendship with the singer, the Sligoman unfortunately has no pictorial record of the visits.

"He was very security conscious. We were sworn to secrecy about the visits and he posed for no photographs. The security people even took the tape from the CCTV camera outside our premises as they were leaving," he explained.

- JIM GRAY

TMZ has learned Dr. Conrad Murray's legal defense is that Michael Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of Propofol.

Multiple sources familiar with the strategy tell TMZ the defense argument goes like this:

- At around 10:50 AM, Dr. Murray gave Jackson 25 mg of Propofol from a 20 ml bottle -- that's only about 1/8 of the bottle.

- The dose Dr. Murray administered would keep someone asleep for only 5 to 10 minutes, But the Propofol, along with the Ativan and Versed that was already in MJ's system, had a synergistic effect that put Jackson to sleep for a longer period of time.

- For the next hour, Dr. Murray stayed in the room and was on the phone for much of the time. Dr. Murray didn't leave the room to make the calls because MJ liked activity in the room, regularly sleeping with the lights on and cartoons blaring on the TV.

- At around noon, Dr. Murray left the room for approximately two minutes to go to the bathroom. While he was gone, the defense believes Jackson suddenly awakened and was frustrated he had spent nearly 9 hours trying in vain to sleep. The defense theory -- Jackson took the 20 ml bottle of Propofol and self-injected the remaining contents through the IV, causing a massive overdose that stopped his heart.

- Dr. Murray walked back in the room and saw Jackson with his eyes open and pupils dilated. Dr. Murray dropped the phone (he was speaking with his girlfriend) and began administering CPR.

The defense will argue Michael Jackson was a long-time Propofol addict -- something TMZ first reported shortly after the singer's death. As one source said, Jackson liked the sensation of Propofol being administered by IV, adding, "Michael liked to push it."

L.A. County Coroner's investigators took a picture in the room, showing an empty Propofol bottle on the floor, underneath the nightstand by Jackson's bed. The defense will argue Jackson grabbed the bottle from the nightstand, injected himself and then dropped the bottle.

Remember, law enforcement believes Dr. Murray hid bottles of Propofol before paramedics arrived. The defense will argue ... if Dr. Murray was really hiding Propofol, he would have removed the empty bottle under the nightstand that caused Jackson's death.

Ed Chernoff, Murray's attorney, could not be reached for comment.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/0...z0k7R4SlCV

And since when is TMZ considered a credible source? They're saying multiple "sources" familiar with the defense strategy are saying xyz...but they didnt even get a comment from Murray's attorney I have a hard time believing that Murray's defense team would be this stupid to use this laughable, BS defense strategy, nobody would believe this. @ TMZ and their lame so-called "sources". I dont trust this story from TMZ, they're not very reliable. Just sayin...
[Edited 4/4/10 11:51am]

Even though you couldn't pay me to watch, I'm very surprised there were no secret surveillance cameras in Michael's bedrooms. All of this would be on film if there were.

Timmy84 said:

I wish he wore jeans more often. He looked so hot in them.

dag said:

I think he probably preferred dress pants in his later years.

Timmy84 said:

Well, he had the greatest legs and ass that those dress pants didn´t show that well. Such a shame.