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Reply #420 posted 04/02/10 10:19pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



lol that would be an ignorant show. Each show stars a different MJ. HAHAHAHAHA


I know, right? lol


Bubbles come dangling off the rainbow talkin bout...

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Reply #421 posted 04/02/10 10:20pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



I know, right? lol


Bubbles come dangling off the rainbow talkin bout...



falloff Oh yeah if Powerpuff Girls had a monkey, BUBBLES got to be in that bitch! And yes he will be like "haaaaai..." lol
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Reply #422 posted 04/02/10 10:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Bubbles come dangling off the rainbow talkin bout...



falloff Oh yeah if Powerpuff Girls had a monkey, BUBBLES got to be in that bitch! And yes he will be like "haaaaai..." lol


He'll give Mojo Jojo a run for his money lmao
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Reply #423 posted 04/02/10 10:27pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



falloff Oh yeah if Powerpuff Girls had a monkey, BUBBLES got to be in that bitch! And yes he will be like "haaaaai..." lol


He'll give Mojo Jojo a run for his money lmao


nod lol
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Reply #424 posted 04/02/10 10:41pm

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angel345 said:

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No, no, I wasn't being sarcastic, lol. lol I actually do understand what MOL posted, and it's somewhat saddening. The responses and body language in that interview were very odd.... neutral

Then i am wondering why was that interview aired? They had to know at some point that propofol is not addictive. How can you run a story without checking the facts? Either someone knows the real cause of death or he's still breathing.

Yeah, Oprah was slacking. Wendy Williams would have done a better interview than that. Oprah seemingly HAS NOT read the autopsy report, and Janet most likely hasn't either.
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Reply #425 posted 04/02/10 10:42pm

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bboy87 said:




lol


That poster reminds me of these...

Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #426 posted 04/02/10 10:54pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:


lol

"The real MJ was on the plane". lol


lol that would be an ignorant show. Each show stars a different MJ. HAHAHAHAHA

Nah, that shit would be like Care Bears with different Mikes hanging out and going on adventures lol
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Reply #427 posted 04/02/10 10:55pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



I know, right? lol


Bubbles come dangling off the rainbow talkin bout...


a friend of mine wrote Bubbles' tell all book

that shit is hilarious! lol
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Reply #428 posted 04/02/10 11:48pm

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



lol that would be an ignorant show. Each show stars a different MJ. HAHAHAHAHA

Nah, that shit would be like Care Bears with different Mikes hanging out and going on adventures lol



Rock with You MJ-Hey Mike whats up?

Thriller- Nothing just waiting for Bad MJ to come out and play Thriller with me!

RWY MJ- Excellent! highfive
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Reply #429 posted 04/02/10 11:53pm

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lol

Oh, wow. Thats really quite cute. Warms my cold heart. touched

I would love to see a Madonna one. biggrin
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Reply #430 posted 04/03/10 12:05am

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Bubbles come dangling off the rainbow talkin bout...


a friend of mine wrote Bubbles' tell all book

that shit is hilarious! lol


You should repost it here. That shit was funny as fuck! lol
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Reply #431 posted 04/03/10 12:11am

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


a friend of mine wrote Bubbles' tell all book

that shit is hilarious! lol


You should repost it here. That shit was funny as fuck! lol



yes!
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Reply #432 posted 04/03/10 12:35am

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murph said:




I feel where you guys are coming from....It's tough sometimes to admit when the greats have personal issues...But Janet said she saw him a month before his death at a party...And they talked for a while. And she said MJ looked like he was dealing with some major problems...Addicts have their off days and on days....

Bottom line: MJ is still MJ, even with his past flaws..He's still a GOAT....I think the fans need to understand...


you know me, man. I try to stay levelheaded lol
I can admit he had problems, the brotha had a rough life and went through alot

I just want people to understand him and all that went through in the proper context, ya know? I don't want people out there to take it and overexaggerate or use it to degrade him. It's the same way I feel about James Brown or Sammy, and others I admire

I agree with bboy.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #433 posted 04/03/10 1:02am

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dag said:

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you know me, man. I try to stay levelheaded lol
I can admit he had problems, the brotha had a rough life and went through alot

I just want people to understand him and all that went through in the proper context, ya know? I don't want people out there to take it and overexaggerate or use it to degrade him. It's the same way I feel about James Brown or Sammy, and others I admire

I agree with bboy.
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thank you smile

The guy had:

lupus
vitiligo
inflammed lungs
an enlarged prostate
stiffness in joints
severe insomnia
and still may have been suffering from complications from getting burned


and not to mention possibly dealing with anxiety and depression from everything he was dealing with..... it's not surprising he was using some kind of medication
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Reply #434 posted 04/03/10 2:02am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #435 posted 04/03/10 2:37am

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that oprah interview was bullshit, she needs to hurry up and quit. It's a sick business where someone is asking about something as morbid as death and then "let's talk about the movie" all cheerful, bizarre man. Anyway, like Paul Mooney always says, "fuck that fat skinny bitch".
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Reply #436 posted 04/03/10 2:40am

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that oprah interview was bullshit, she needs to hurry up and quit. It's a sick business where someone is asking about something as morbid as death and then "let's talk about the movie" all cheerful, bizarre man. Anyway, like Paul Mooney always says, "fuck that fat skinny bitch".



Best quote ever!
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Reply #437 posted 04/03/10 3:35am

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MyMyMy said:

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What I meant by that ,is that he impacted every culture, race and language, he was able to reach to those places (Middle east, africa,Far east) while others weren't able to achieve that,thats nothing new, if there was someone before him then post his/her name.
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Michael was the biggest star in the world... that goes without saying. But people like Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie... a lot of the Motown stars were very well known in the '70s and '80s. I think Bob Marley qualifies as "Western" and he was and is still hugely popular. There was a lot of African reggae music (The Mandators, Majek Fashek and others) created in the '80s because of Bob Marley. And this might be surprising but Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers were very huge in the '70s and '80s. Then in the '80s, of course, you had Madonna. Other artists I can think of... Boney M. Donna Summer comes to mind as well. Abba as well.

Anyway, I was just saying the Michael being the only Western artist known in Africa... well, the Africa I know, is not true.
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Madonna? Abba? Dolly parton? kenny rogers?

The fact that you listed those artists proved that you didn't understand the point of my post, Re-read my post.

Bob marley yeah , but not on large scale like MJ.
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Reply #438 posted 04/03/10 5:22am

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NastradumasKid said:

mozfonky said:

that oprah interview was bullshit, she needs to hurry up and quit. It's a sick business where someone is asking about something as morbid as death and then "let's talk about the movie" all cheerful, bizarre man. Anyway, like Paul Mooney always says, "fuck that fat skinny bitch".



Best quote ever!


Second runner-up quote from Paul Mooney "Oprah is Mammy with a Degree."
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Reply #439 posted 04/03/10 5:25am

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carlcranshaw said:

NastradumasKid said:




Best quote ever!


Second runner-up quote from Paul Mooney "Oprah is Mammy with a Degree."

lol lol
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Reply #440 posted 04/03/10 6:16am

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Timmy84 said:

I do think Michael Jackson was one of the few American musicians to be known in Africa.

Muhammad Ali is a boxer so yeah lol


Then you don't know much about Africa then. Way before Thriller MJ and the J5 were famous in West Africa at least, but so were artists like Kool & the Gang, Shalamar, Earth Wind and Fire, Madonna, Prince and the list goes on. Even artists like James Brown, the Beatles, The Stones and Elvis were known in Africa way back in the 60s, although amongst the younger generations they may not be so popular. The whole of Africa is not some isolated village.
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Reply #441 posted 04/03/10 6:21am

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MOL said:



Her hatred for MJ stems from the fact that she does think he was a pedophile. Have you ever seen her interview with LMP?



This the the type of MJ fandom that scares me...


Yet, murph- and surprisingly- you ignored my other two posts which contradicted yours. Why was that? Why did you ignore them?

Oh...and stop the fandom nonsense. I don't give two shits about Michael. I have 6 exams next semester, so, as you can see, I barely have time to think about other things. Quit it. Give up the crazy fandom bullshit and answer my two other posts instead of acting like a coward and ignoring them. I guess they weren't convenient.
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Reply #442 posted 04/03/10 7:16am

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Timmy84 said:

I do think Michael Jackson was one of the few American musicians to be known in Africa.

Muhammad Ali is a boxer so yeah lol


Then you don't know much about Africa then. Way before Thriller MJ and the J5 were famous in West Africa at least, but so were artists like Kool & the Gang, Shalamar, Earth Wind and Fire, Madonna, Prince and the list goes on. Even artists like James Brown, the Beatles, The Stones and Elvis were known in Africa way back in the 60s, although amongst the younger generations they may not be so popular. The whole of Africa is not some isolated village.


Thanks. And you seem to understand the point of my post. I don't know about Elvis, though. lol Well I can only speak about the '80s and beyond. Yeah, people have heard of the name but I never heard any of his songs growing up. Only the one done by UB40. lol.

So funny about scoffing about Dolly Parton/Madonna and all that. La Isla Bonita was a huge song when I was a little kid. The Calisthenics club at my school performed to it for one of our school functions. Country music was very popular in Africa but particularly in the late 70s/early 80s. Even up till now, my dad has all these CDs with all these random dude in cowboy hats on the cover.

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Madonna? Abba? Dolly parton? kenny rogers?

The fact that you listed those artists proved that you didn't understand the point of my post, Re-read my post.

Bob marley yeah , but not on large scale like MJ.


I read your post and I'm saying that you can give Michael all the props he deserves without adding little falsehoods. You scoff at those artists but do you know the impact they had on the African music scene? No. Those artists were widely popular in Africa once upon a time. And Bob Marley on a very large scale when it came to Africa. You know how many people got dreaded up and spoke in Jamaican patois because of him?
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Reply #443 posted 04/03/10 7:50am

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mozfonky said:

that oprah interview was bullshit, she needs to hurry up and quit. It's a sick business where someone is asking about something as morbid as death and then "let's talk about the movie" all cheerful, bizarre man. Anyway, like Paul Mooney always says, "fuck that fat skinny bitch".




I get Paul Mooney, because he's a comedian and he goes after everyone from Oprah to Whitney Houston....

But the obsessive hatred for this woman by some of the more hardcore MJ fans has gotten out of hand....
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Reply #444 posted 04/03/10 8:53am

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The problem about Janet's statements can be reduced to one thing: ignorance. It's not that she had an agenda (who can deny Joe, for example, has his eyes on $?), it's that she knew nothing. The way she spoke about propofol is simply ridiculous. She basicaly said Michael was a junkie because he was taking propofol. While I'm not a doctor yet (I still have two big years in front of me), if you try telling this to a doc he/she will laugh in your face. She said he was an addict because he was a propofol user and that was the extent of his addiction. Seriously, this is laughable. Propofol isn't an addictive substance, mainly when combined with related anesthetics (=exactly what was found in MJ's system). Michael wanted to sleep. Period. The thing is: he was rich enough to hire a doctor.

After this, Janet added that Michael told her that he was not addicted.

And this interview takes place some months after Michael's autopsy report is made public. So Janet comes across as a person who believes Michael was an addict because he took medication repeatedly and eventually died because of that. By assuming it, she concludes that he was lying when asked about whether he was or not a druggie. So, Janet's statements are false.

And Michael being a good or a bad entertainer has nothing to do with anything.


I think what you're saying is true as far as Janet concluding his death to a drug addiction, when it was just medical negligence. However, I think he turned to propofol the same way he turned to pain killers - using meds to quickly solve a problem. That's why Janet is connecting the two. And yes, it is misleading because majority of the public will just conclude it as Michael dying as a drug addict because of his connection with drugs in the past.
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Reply #445 posted 04/03/10 8:58am

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thank you smile

The guy had:

lupus
vitiligo
inflammed lungs
an enlarged prostate
stiffness in joints
severe insomnia
and still may have been suffering from complications from getting burned


and not to mention possibly dealing with anxiety and depression from everything he was dealing with..... it's not surprising he was using some kind of medication


Let's not forget, he also had arthritis on his fingers and lower back. I can understand the dependency on pain killers. Don't think he could function without it confused
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Reply #446 posted 04/03/10 9:01am

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MyLuv229 said:

MOL said:



The problem about Janet's statements can be reduced to one thing: ignorance. It's not that she had an agenda (who can deny Joe, for example, has his eyes on $?), it's that she knew nothing. The way she spoke about propofol is simply ridiculous. She basicaly said Michael was a junkie because he was taking propofol. While I'm not a doctor yet (I still have two big years in front of me), if you try telling this to a doc he/she will laugh in your face. She said he was an addict because he was a propofol user and that was the extent of his addiction. Seriously, this is laughable. Propofol isn't an addictive substance, mainly when combined with related anesthetics (=exactly what was found in MJ's system). Michael wanted to sleep. Period. The thing is: he was rich enough to hire a doctor.

After this, Janet added that Michael told her that he was not addicted.

And this interview takes place some months after Michael's autopsy report is made public. So Janet comes across as a person who believes Michael was an addict because he took medication repeatedly and eventually died because of that. By assuming it, she concludes that he was lying when asked about whether he was or not a druggie. So, Janet's statements are false.

And Michael being a good or a bad entertainer has nothing to do with anything.


I think what you're saying is true as far as Janet concluding his death to a drug addiction, when it was just medical negligence. However, I think he turned to propofol the same way he turned to pain killers - using meds to quickly solve a problem. That's why Janet is connecting the two. And yes, it is misleading because majority of the public will just conclude it as Michael dying as a drug addict because of his connection with drugs in the past.


I agree with the first sentence though I disagree with the second. Insomnia wasn't a "quick problem". He had it, apparently, since the mid 90's. And yes, the makority of the public will conclude MJ died a junkie.
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Reply #447 posted 04/03/10 9:02am

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MyLuv229 said:

MOL said:



The problem about Janet's statements can be reduced to one thing: ignorance. It's not that she had an agenda (who can deny Joe, for example, has his eyes on $?), it's that she knew nothing. The way she spoke about propofol is simply ridiculous. She basicaly said Michael was a junkie because he was taking propofol. While I'm not a doctor yet (I still have two big years in front of me), if you try telling this to a doc he/she will laugh in your face. She said he was an addict because he was a propofol user and that was the extent of his addiction. Seriously, this is laughable. Propofol isn't an addictive substance, mainly when combined with related anesthetics (=exactly what was found in MJ's system). Michael wanted to sleep. Period. The thing is: he was rich enough to hire a doctor.

After this, Janet added that Michael told her that he was not addicted.

And this interview takes place some months after Michael's autopsy report is made public. So Janet comes across as a person who believes Michael was an addict because he took medication repeatedly and eventually died because of that. By assuming it, she concludes that he was lying when asked about whether he was or not a druggie. So, Janet's statements are false.

And Michael being a good or a bad entertainer has nothing to do with anything.


I think what you're saying is true as far as Janet concluding his death to a drug addiction, when it was just medical negligence. However, I think he turned to propofol the same way he turned to pain killers - using meds to quickly solve a problem. That's why Janet is connecting the two. And yes, it is misleading because majority of the public will just conclude it as Michael dying as a drug addict because of his connection with drugs in the past.


I agree with the first sentence though I disagree with the second. Insomnia wasn't a "quick problem". He had it, apparently, since the mid 90's. And yes, the majority of the public will conclude MJ died a junkie.


Good point.
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Reply #448 posted 04/03/10 9:07am

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I get Paul Mooney, because he's a comedian and he goes after everyone from Oprah to Whitney Houston....

But the obsessive hatred for this woman by some of the more hardcore MJ fans has gotten out of hand....



I don't think it's obsessive hatred. It's clear that Oprah believes what she believes about Michael. That's like saying why is there an "obsessive hatred" for Martin Bashir. It's people like them who take pleasure in carrying his name though mud and then there's a general consensus in believing things about Michael that are completely false - because they contribute to it. What's there to admire? Oprah has to impose her negativeity on questions about Michael whenever she's interviwing someone who has the slightest connection with him. It's pretty apparent in all the interviews she's done. Aside from Michael, I've seen her other interviews with celebrities and she's highly biased and very quick to impose her opinions on people.
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Reply #449 posted 04/03/10 9:16am

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MOL said:

MyLuv229 said:



I think what you're saying is true as far as Janet concluding his death to a drug addiction, when it was just medical negligence. However, I think he turned to propofol the same way he turned to pain killers - using meds to quickly solve a problem. That's why Janet is connecting the two. And yes, it is misleading because majority of the public will just conclude it as Michael dying as a drug addict because of his connection with drugs in the past.


I agree with the first sentence though I disagree with the second. Insomnia wasn't a "quick problem". He had it, apparently, since the mid 90's. And yes, the majority of the public will conclude MJ died a junkie.


Good point.
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Just to clarify, I didn't say insomnia was a quick problem. I said it was a quick way to solve a problem. He used the same method in the History tour.
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