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babybugz said: bboy87 said: Is that John Cena in your avatar?  Yes and is there a problem?? No, I just had a feeling it was him since I'm used to seeing his face every Monday "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: babybugz said: i'm tired.
Is that John Cena in your avatar? Yeah. | |
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bboy87 said: murph said: I feel where you guys are coming from....It's tough sometimes to admit when the greats have personal issues...But Janet said she saw him a month before his death at a party...And they talked for a while. And she said MJ looked like he was dealing with some major problems...Addicts have their off days and on days.... Bottom line: MJ is still MJ, even with his past flaws..He's still a GOAT....I think the fans need to understand... you know me, man. I try to stay levelheaded
I can admit he had problems, the brotha had a rough life and went through alot I just want people to understand him and all that went through in the proper context, ya know? I don't want people out there to take it and overexaggerate or use it to degrade him. It's the same way I feel about James Brown or Sammy, and others I admire Exactly.  | |
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bboy87 said: babybugz said: Yes and is there a problem?? No, I just had a feeling it was him since I'm used to seeing his face every Monday Did you see that motherfucker pick up Batista in Wrestlemania?!  Batista looked scared as fuck. | |
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bboy87 said: babybugz said: Yes and is there a problem?? No, I just had a feeling it was him since I'm used to seeing his face every Monday that's nice. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: No, I just had a feeling it was him since I'm used to seeing his face every Monday Did you see that motherfucker pick up Batista in Wrestlemania?! Batista looked scared as fuck. Its on DVR
I was gonna do a Shawn Michaels appreciation thread in GD but decided against it  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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murph said: seeingvoices12 said: Homie. Hatred for Janet?  I didn't expect that, I'm a janet fan I don’t have something against her
And murry was physician ,MJ hires a team if he decides to do a tour or something, its not like Mj hired Murry to help him with his battle with addiction, WTF, he hired him because its well known fact that Mj always suffers from trouble sleeping in tours and rehearsals…..that’s nothing new. Murry was never brought in to help MJ with his battle with addiction, he was brought in to help him to sleep . What your saying is just pure speculation dude… Nah...I'm just dealing with reports... I think the main problem is folks have an over-the-top view of what "addiction" is... I can understand homie... but what reports? Murry was hired few weeks before the rehearsals,He was hired to help the man to sleep not to help him with his battle with addiction, thats what I want you to understand. and I do believe that Mj wasn't perfect,he had flaws and problems like you and Me,but i think you should look at the bigger picture. I will believe what comes out from the Factual official autopsy reports not from Janet's mouth, I'm not saying she is lying, but she doesn't know shit. [Edited 4/2/10 18:24pm] MICHAEL JACKSON
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Did you see that motherfucker pick up Batista in Wrestlemania?! Batista looked scared as fuck. Its on DVR
I was gonna do a Shawn Michaels appreciation thread in GD but decided against it  I'm still gonna miss Shawn.  | |
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seeingvoices12 said: MyMyMy said: When was Michael the only Western star known in Africa? To the best of my knowledge, such a time never existed. Not to pick at that point, but that's some hyperhole right there.
What I meant by that ,is that he impacted every culture, race and language, he was able to reach to those places (Middle east, africa,Far east) while others weren't able to achieve that,thats nothing new, if there was someone before him then post his/her name. [Edited 4/2/10 17:21pm] Michael was the biggest star in the world... that goes without saying. But people like Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie... a lot of the Motown stars were very well known in the '70s and '80s. I think Bob Marley qualifies as "Western" and he was and is still hugely popular. There was a lot of African reggae music (The Mandators, Majek Fashek and others) created in the '80s because of Bob Marley. And this might be surprising but Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers were very huge in the '70s and '80s. Then in the '80s, of course, you had Madonna. Other artists I can think of... Boney M. Donna Summer comes to mind as well. Abba as well. Anyway, I was just saying the Michael being the only Western artist known in Africa... well, the Africa I know, is not true. /b] [Edited 4/2/10 18:57pm] | |
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seeingvoices12 said: murph said: Nah...I'm just dealing with reports... I think the main problem is folks have an over-the-top view of what "addiction" is... I can understand homie... but what reports? Murry was hired few weeks before the rehearsals,He was hired to help the man to sleep not to help him with his battle with addiction, thats what I want you to understand. and I do believe that Mj wasn't perfect,he had flaws and problems like you and Me,but i think you should look at the bigger picture. I will believe what comes out from the Factual official autopsy reports not from Janet's mouth, I'm not saying she is lying, but she doesn't know shit. [Edited 4/2/10 18:24pm] Seeingvoices, you are completely right. Just like his autopsy report confirmed, Jackson was not a drug addict. The man hired Murray to help him sleep (Jackson had severe insomnia problems). Period! He didn't hire Murray to feed his drug addiction or whatever...the man just wanted to sleep. But hey (!), shall we all pretend we believe Joe's claims when he says he "just wanted to save Michael from dying"? C'mon: that's the only reason Joe was constantly yelling at Michael's door, OK? *sarcasm* Shall we all pretend we believe Janet when she says Propofol was the object of MJ's addiction? I mean, propofol isn't even an addictive substance but...let's pretend Janet is right. But...if Michael was such a junkie...why did Janet want to tour with him? Huummmm....strange. Oh...expect people to call you an worshipper. Facts aren't very well received, here. | |
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murph said: Timmy84 said: But lemme ask you something, when you watched "This Is It", was it the look of a person who had problems - which no one can deny - just not to the extent that some of his siblings are trying to say.
And yet she has made it known that not only did MJ have a real drug problem, but he wouldn't admit it, even when he was approached by his the people who were closest to him.. And still, even with all his problems MJ will still go down as the greatest pure entertainer of his generation... The problem about Janet's statements can be reduced to one thing: ignorance. It's not that she had an agenda (who can deny Joe, for example, has his eyes on $?), it's that she knew nothing. The way she spoke about propofol is simply ridiculous. She basicaly said Michael was a junkie because he was taking propofol. While I'm not a doctor yet (I still have two big years in front of me), if you try telling this to a doc he/she will laugh in your face. She said he was an addict because he was a propofol user and that was the extent of his addiction. Seriously, this is laughable. Propofol isn't an addictive substance, mainly when combined with related anesthetics (=exactly what was found in MJ's system). Michael wanted to sleep. Period. The thing is: he was rich enough to hire a doctor. After this, Janet added that Michael told her that he was not addicted. And this interview takes place some months after Michael's autopsy report is made public. So Janet comes across as a person who believes Michael was an addict because he took medication repeatedly and eventually died because of that. By assuming it, she concludes that he was lying when asked about whether he was or not a druggie. So, Janet's statements are false. And Michael being a good or a bad entertainer has nothing to do with anything. | |
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Propofol level in Michael Jackson's body at the time of his autopsy was 10 to 100 times higher than the level attributable to the dosage Dr. Conrad Murray admits to having administered. Photo Credit: Kevin Mazur/AEG/Getty Images
April 02, 2010, (Sawf News) - Propofol level in Michael Jackson's body at the time of his autopsy was 10 to 100 times higher than the level attributable to the dosage Dr. Conrad Murray admits to having administered. Dr. Bruce Speiss, Professor of Anesthesiology, who didn't' treat Michael Jackson, tells CNN: "The levels of propofol in the toxicology report are considerably higher, perhaps by factors of 10 to a 100 time higher." Murray told police that he administered 25 ml of propofol after three other drugs failed to help Michael sleep. Dr. Bruce also highlights some other inconsistencies. Murray says he stayed with Jackson for 10 minutes after administering propofol, in which case he should have noticed something was wrong. Michael should have been adversely affected with seconds of being given the drug. "If he was going to stop breathing he should have stopped breathing within 30 secs to 2 mins after the propofol went in," says Dr. Bruce. Also, a quantity as small as 25 ml should have been injected, not administered using IV, Dr Bruce points out, sinc the IV tube itself would take up 25 ml. http://www.sawfnews.com/G...63323.aspx [Edited 4/2/10 19:38pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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seeingvoices12 said: NastradumasKid said: I really doubt that for some reason. I know she didn't care much for him but really? Jealously? Why do some people think hate/dislike MJ=Jealously? She is one Jealous bitch. She obviously thinks that she is the most influential black person ever, known around the globe (never), doing charities , she likes to promote herself everywhere as the greatest , most charitable person ever ( even on T.V on her shows  ), yet her influence is zero outside the borders of the U.S ……she is just a talk show.
Oprah ‘s popularity in the U.S was/ is huge, very famous like MJ was in the 80’s , (Inside the U.S) , considered a god figure to some, its natural she gets jealous if there was someone had the same race but bigger and more iconic and more influential , not only in the U.S but around the globe, You have to look at the bigger picture. Her hatred for MJ has no other than this explanation….if there is another one, please provide. Her hatred for MJ stems from the fact that she does think he was a pedophile. Have you ever seen her interview with LMP? | |
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seeingvoices12 said: murph said: Nah...I'm just dealing with reports... I think the main problem is folks have an over-the-top view of what "addiction" is... I can understand homie... but what reports? Murry was hired few weeks before the rehearsals,He was hired to help the man to sleep not to help him with his battle with addiction, thats what I want you to understand. and I do believe that Mj wasn't perfect,he had flaws and problems like you and Me,but i think you should look at the bigger picture. I will believe what comes out from the Factual official autopsy reports not from Janet's mouth, I'm not saying she is lying, but she doesn't know shit. [Edited 4/2/10 18:24pm] Let's face it. MJ was surrounded by people who didn't have his best interest at heart. The very people who was bashing him are the same people singing his praises. As long as you see the fakery in Tinseltown, don't stress it. Whom it is that's responsible for MJ's death, karma will serve them. It's hard to believe that he's gone, but remember him for the talented and tender hearted gentleman that he was. [Edited 4/2/10 19:56pm] | |
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MOL said: seeingvoices12 said: She is one Jealous bitch. She obviously thinks that she is the most influential black person ever, known around the globe (never), doing charities , she likes to promote herself everywhere as the greatest , most charitable person ever ( even on T.V on her shows ), yet her influence is zero outside the borders of the U.S ……she is just a talk show.
Oprah ‘s popularity in the U.S was/ is huge, very famous like MJ was in the 80’s , (Inside the U.S) , considered a god figure to some, its natural she gets jealous if there was someone had the same race but bigger and more iconic and more influential , not only in the U.S but around the globe, You have to look at the bigger picture. Her hatred for MJ has no other than this explanation….if there is another one, please provide. Her hatred for MJ stems from the fact that she does think he was a pedophile. Have you ever seen her interview with LMP? This the the type of MJ fandom that scares me... | |
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MOL said: murph said: And yet she has made it known that not only did MJ have a real drug problem, but he wouldn't admit it, even when he was approached by his the people who were closest to him.. And still, even with all his problems MJ will still go down as the greatest pure entertainer of his generation... The problem about Janet's statements can be reduced to one thing: ignorance. It's not that she had an agenda (who can deny Joe, for example, has his eyes on $?), it's that she knew nothing. The way she spoke about propofol is simply ridiculous. She basicaly said Michael was a junkie because he was taking propofol. While I'm not a doctor yet (I still have two big years in front of me), if you try telling this to a doc he/she will laugh in your face. She said he was an addict because he was a propofol user and that was the extent of his addiction. Seriously, this is laughable. Propofol isn't an addictive substance, mainly when combined with related anesthetics (=exactly what was found in MJ's system). Michael wanted to sleep. Period. The thing is: he was rich enough to hire a doctor. After this, Janet added that Michael told her that he was not addicted. And this interview takes place some months after Michael's autopsy report is made public. So Janet comes across as a person who believes Michael was an addict because he took medication repeatedly and eventually died because of that. By assuming it, she concludes that he was lying when asked about whether he was or not a druggie. So, Janet's statements are false. And Michael being a good or a bad entertainer has nothing to do with anything. I hear what you're saying. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: MOL said: The problem about Janet's statements can be reduced to one thing: ignorance. It's not that she had an agenda (who can deny Joe, for example, has his eyes on $?), it's that she knew nothing. The way she spoke about propofol is simply ridiculous. She basicaly said Michael was a junkie because he was taking propofol. While I'm not a doctor yet (I still have two big years in front of me), if you try telling this to a doc he/she will laugh in your face. She said he was an addict because he was a propofol user and that was the extent of his addiction. Seriously, this is laughable. Propofol isn't an addictive substance, mainly when combined with related anesthetics (=exactly what was found in MJ's system). Michael wanted to sleep. Period. The thing is: he was rich enough to hire a doctor. After this, Janet added that Michael told her that he was not addicted. And this interview takes place some months after Michael's autopsy report is made public. So Janet comes across as a person who believes Michael was an addict because he took medication repeatedly and eventually died because of that. By assuming it, she concludes that he was lying when asked about whether he was or not a druggie. So, Janet's statements are false. And Michael being a good or a bad entertainer has nothing to do with anything. I hear what you're saying. MOL is weird. | |
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NastradumasKid said: WaterInYourBath said: I hear what you're saying. MOL is weird. No, no, I wasn't being sarcastic, lol. I actually do understand what MOL posted, and it's somewhat saddening. The responses and body language in that interview were very odd.... "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: NastradumasKid said: MOL is weird. No, no, I wasn't being sarcastic, lol. I actually do understand what MOL posted, and it's somewhat saddening. The responses and body language in that interview were very odd.... Then i am wondering why was that interview aired? They had to know at some point that propofol is not addictive. How can you run a story without checking the facts? Either someone knows the real cause of death or he's still breathing. | |
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bboy87 said: 
LMAO! (Left to Right) Scream They Don't Care About Us Leave Me Alone Rock With You (Not sure about this one. I wanna say Black or White or Ghosts) You Are Not Alone You Can't Win Dangerous Jam (Live) Blood On The Dance Floor Don't Stop Till You Get Enough Smooth Criminal Thriller Jam Remember The Time (LMFAO @ the hair) Billie Jean (1987-2001 era) Bad The Way You Make Me Feel | |
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seeingvoices12 said: NastradumasKid said: She didn't seem to like Prince much either when she was interviewing him, so was she jealous of him also, because Prince is more famous than she is! while many might not like Mj but was the Most influential black artist ever, Hon, there was a time where MJ was the only western artist known outside the U.S , especially in the middle east, far east and Africa, that’s the thing , he was influential around the globe ,he impacted everyone ,race , and culture , people in refugees with No T.V know the man and his dance moves ,anyone who says the contrary is on denial, the jealous bitch was so jealous of that , she didn’t even make a statement when he passed away, can you believe that? She did an interview with him in 1993 which was very important point in her career, yet she didn’t make a statement…. Prince who is a genius musician was never like that………leave Prince out of the discussion please
She is a ghost of jealousy. [Edited 4/2/10 15:50pm] Even Madonna was jealous of his success. MJ mentioned it, I've read. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said:
LMAO! (Left to Right) Scream They Don't Care About Us Leave Me Alone Rock With You (Not sure about this one. I wanna say Black or White or Ghosts) You Are Not Alone You Can't Win Dangerous Jam (Live) Blood On The Dance Floor Don't Stop Till You Get Enough Smooth Criminal Thriller Jam Remember The Time (LMFAO @ the hair) Billie Jean (1987-2001 era) Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Jasmine from Aladdin is looking for her hair
and Leave Me Alone Mike is saying "Yeah....I'm out this bitch" "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: ViintageJunkiie said: LMAO! (Left to Right) Scream They Don't Care About Us Leave Me Alone Rock With You (Not sure about this one. I wanna say Black or White or Ghosts) You Are Not Alone You Can't Win Dangerous Jam (Live) Blood On The Dance Floor Don't Stop Till You Get Enough Smooth Criminal Thriller Jam Remember The Time (LMFAO @ the hair) Billie Jean (1987-2001 era) Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Jasmine from Aladdin is looking for her hair
and Leave Me Alone Mike is saying "Yeah....I'm out this bitch" LMAO! When I saw the hair, I started dyin! "Leave Me Alone" MJ doesnt want anything to do with that shxt | |
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That poster is so cute though.  | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said:
LMAO! (Left to Right) Scream They Don't Care About Us Leave Me Alone Rock With You (Not sure about this one. I wanna say Black or White or Ghosts) You Are Not Alone You Can't Win Dangerous Jam (Live) Blood On The Dance Floor Don't Stop Till You Get Enough Smooth Criminal Thriller Jam Remember The Time (LMFAO @ the hair) Billie Jean (1987-2001 era) Bad The Way You Make Me Feel The one you're not sure about is the "Ghosts" MJ. lol | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said:
LMAO! (Left to Right) Scream They Don't Care About Us Leave Me Alone Rock With You (Not sure about this one. I wanna say Black or White or Ghosts) You Are Not Alone You Can't Win Dangerous Jam (Live) Blood On The Dance Floor Don't Stop Till You Get Enough Smooth Criminal Thriller Jam Remember The Time (LMFAO @ the hair) Billie Jean (1987-2001 era) Bad The Way You Make Me Feel That cartoon series is SO adorable. It's like a Michael Jackson "Powerpuff Dude" collection.  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said: Jasmine from Aladdin is looking for her hair
and Leave Me Alone Mike is saying "Yeah....I'm out this bitch" LMAO! When I saw the hair, I started dyin! "Leave Me Alone" MJ doesnt want anything to do with that shxt imagine a cartoon series
while everything is happening, they'd cut to leave me alone mike in his plane hovering over and saying "....these muthafuckas" before flying off "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: ViintageJunkiie said: LMAO! When I saw the hair, I started dyin! "Leave Me Alone" MJ doesnt want anything to do with that shxt imagine a cartoon series
while everything is happening, they'd cut to leave me alone mike in his plane hovering over and saying "....these muthafuckas" before flying off
"The real MJ was on the plane". | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: imagine a cartoon series
while everything is happening, they'd cut to leave me alone mike in his plane hovering over and saying "....these muthafuckas" before flying off
"The real MJ was on the plane". that would be an ignorant show. Each show stars a different MJ. HAHAHAHAHA | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Timmy84 said:
"The real MJ was on the plane". that would be an ignorant show. Each show stars a different MJ. HAHAHAHAHAI know, right? | |
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