TonyVanDam said:

OH please, Tony

I can't sing a LICK but I damn well would talk BIG SHIT if I didn't like a certain type of music, believe that. I don't think Whitney should be excluded from speaking her mind just because she's in the same profession as the folks she talked about.

I think Nippy is stuck in a "damn if she did, damn if she didn't" thing with you guys. It doesn't make a difference whether she mentioned the broad, or talked vaguely,,,,the point here is not about LADY GAGA personally, its about the MUSIC industry's whole obsession with "catwalks" while putting "music" in the backseat.

And YOU Tony did ALL but crucify the GaGa bitch so I don't know whats with the different tune now.

Identity said:

Sounds like she's taking shots at Lady GaGa artists.

TonyVanDam said:

OH please, Tony

I can't sing a LICK but I damn well would talk BIG SHIT if I didn't like a certain type of music, believe that. I don't think Whitney should be excluded from speaking her mind just because she's in the same profession as the folks she talked about.

I think Nippy is stuck in a "damn if she did, damn if she didn't" thing with you guys. It doesn't make a difference whether she mentioned the broad, or talked vaguely,,,,the point here is not about LADY GAGA personally, its about the MUSIC industry's whole obsession with "catwalks" while putting "music" in the backseat.

And YOU Tony did ALL but crucify the GaGa bitch so I don't know whats with the different tune now.

Harlepolis said:

I never said I didn't like SOME of Gaga's music. Even today, I still think LoveGames is her all-time best thus far.

My main beef with Gaga is THIS bullshit (which I discuss in one of my own threads http://prince.org/msg/8/331909 ):

TonyVanDam said:

Then explain why you think Whitney never had any dance material except for "So Emotional". She and Gaga's dance songs are similar, it's just not the type of dance you're into. And you know how vainandy feels about Whitney IN GENERAL so don't try to put that Baphomet mess on here.

Timmy84 said:

So Emotional, I like. I Wanna Dance With Somebody, is OK. And both of these songs are on the Whitney album.

But her self-titled debut album doesn't even have uptempo dance-pop tracks like THAT^. And before you OR Harle say one word about How Will I Know, that track doesn't count (IMDHO) because it is THE whitest California valley girl sounding song that any black female artist has every done. Oh hell, you would never see Madonna caught dead doing a track like that and she is a real white woman.

And damn that Clive Davis for using Whitney like that to defeat The Funk. Because of him as executive producer of Whitney's first 3 albums alone, r&b/soul radio would never the same after that.

Timmy84 said:

So Emotional, I like. I Wanna Dance With Somebody, is OK. And both of these songs are on the Whitney album.

But her self-titled debut album doesn't even have uptempo dance-pop tracks like THAT^. And before you OR Harle say one word about How Will I Know, that track doesn't count (IMDHO) because it is THE whitest California valley girl sounding song that any black female artist has every done. Oh hell, you would never see Madonna caught dead doing a track like that and she is a real white woman.

And damn that Clive Davis for using Whitney like that to defeat The Funk. Because of him as executive producer of Whitney's first 3 albums alone, r&b/soul radio would never the same after that.

Harlepolis said:

Whitney was asked about costumes during the 80's. Janet came with Control just a year or so after the really outlandish stuff of the early to mid 80's. Ergo, my earlier reply.

TonyVanDam said:

Fuck "How Will I Know", I'll take Kashif's...


Put BOTH of "emotional" and "I wanna step on somebody's toes" to shame

jiorjios said:

It isn't, and SINGING will never be passe contrary to the popular belief, there's a market for every Ledisi, Chrisette, Lalah Hathaway, Rahsaan Patterson and so forth, it might not be in the same vien as Lady GaGa, but its STILL a firm market.

I don't know, I actually agree with everything she said(esp when she said that folks need to be careful with what they release, and cut all the morbid shit esp when folks need to be lifted up during these crazy times).

However, I DO agree with you that her present singing ability shouldn't be overstated,,,other than that, I think the girl is preaching to the choir(even if some of the choir members didn't like the source ).

jiorjios said:

TonyVanDam said:

Whitney, these days, evokes a Shirley Caesar vibe when she talks.

In her prime, WH could sing just about anyone under a table.

I can imagine, having had her kind of success, it's a little weird seeing the most famous female vocalist today be someone who dresses like a Muppets character.

She sure does if you dance like Carlton on "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" or the girl in the Bruce Springsteen video "Dancing In The Dark".

Harlepolis said:

1. That is true. Janet's debut as an artist in 1982. But Janet didn't go massive crossover until 1986, Control-era. Whitney's self-titled debut album was before that.

2. I've was raising my eyebrows when Whitney was criticizing Lady Gaga without even mentioning the woman's name. I don't think that was a good idea, especially if Gaga's music can make people dance and Whitney's music can NOT (apart from So Emotional & I Wanna Dance With Somebody).

TonyVanDam said:

Shit So Emotional and I Wanna Dance With Somebody never
made my ass dance.

midiscover said:

Trust me Midiscover, Whitney use to think that Janet wanted Bobby.

I danced my ass off to it, but I was 6 and I'm white

Cinnie said:

Did you dance like Michael J. Fox (Teen Wolf) OR Molly Ringwald (The Breakfast Club)?

TonyVanDam said:

More like Kevin Bacon (Footloose).

An interview taped in Germany this month.

phunkdaddy said:

OK, I stand corrected.



MEMO: Phunkdaddy can NOT shake his ass off of THIS^ bullshit ass album.

Cinnie said: