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Reply #150 posted 03/18/10 11:38pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah the ONLY part. Other than that he's right lol


LOL. Don't get me wrong, I love Bey, but she will never be on the level (or even close to) of Michael. Like one of the articles said in this post, MJ's Off The Wall album shxts on Beys entire catalog.


So true.
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Reply #151 posted 03/19/10 9:50am

angel345

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I'm gonna post some of Mistermaxxx's responses to ?uest

Beyonce either in a group or solo has never made a memorable song period.

tin can albums.

she can sing and yet it is missing soul

MJ changed the course of music twice all Boreyonce has done

has changed the horse weave.


not great as a live performer. good and has had good moments.

Boreyonce kinda reminds me of kobe bryant in that she overacts and trys to create more storyline than needs to be,


considering al the hype Boreyonce gets you'd think whitney, diana ross, gladys knight,chaka khan would something to worry about?

she looks like a superstar, has pressence and charisma however most of her music wouldn't bring lisa lisa back

she has michael jackson aspiration however she is stuck with marlon jackson background tracks


fyi imo Lauyren Hill was the last closes act to run R&B,pop and hip-hop.

all the contrived grammys,etc ain't selling me on her




her music are fast food and straight drive thru without much substance. so it makes sense.

let me tell you something if Etta James was White and she is BTW half Italian, however she is also Negro, if she was all White ain't no way in Sammy Davis Jr would she dare go to the white House and Perform a signature song.

folks don't have no respect and understanding when Beyonce gets in her 60's and let somebody name Crayola get up there and perform "Crazy in Love" for that era President I bet she will act differently.


you just madd because I called Beyonce out on her fraud ways as a artist.

no Songwriting or Producing

over singing and over performing having self.

non acting self.

alot of artists give back what's your point?

bottom line she is overrated and corny.

makes cute songs and is musically limited and uneducated.

some almost 30 something married woman walking around talking about to the left, to the left,

put a ring on it

and trying to make shock videos with non singing turkeys like Lady Gaga and Shakira??

if you knew your history you would understand why Etta James was upset and rightfully so.

chick gotta over spent to sell a album and re sell that same album 99 different ways with adding 1-2 more corny tracks.

She is a Cute Act without alot of energy I'll give her that and little else.


you see I grew up on the real stuff and this chick is minor league stuff 101.

back when the labels cared and had A&R somebody would have guided her thing and told her to make some real songs. not no corny "Ring the Alarm" but wait that song rivals Angela Davis speeches and Protests right?


just because she looks good doesn't excuse wack music. she and Mariah Carey are about 5th or 6th grade Musically literate IMO.


lol @ the name Crayola, but yes Paul Mooney said the same comment about Etta James.
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Reply #152 posted 03/19/10 3:48pm

Harlepolis

angel345 said:

bboy87 said:

I'm gonna post some of Mistermaxxx's responses to ?uest


lol @ the name Crayola, but yes Paul Mooney said the same comment about Etta James.


nod

Had she got up there and sang a Barbra Streisand tune, you know all HOLY HELL would be raised, seen and heard lol

But to Bey's defence, Etta wasn't in a good condition to perform the song(according to her son).

However, singing "At Last" is a PROOF that the girl couldn't find anything worth substance from her own repertoire.
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Reply #153 posted 03/19/10 5:01pm

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Harlepolis said:

angel345 said:


lol @ the name Crayola, but yes Paul Mooney said the same comment about Etta James.


nod

Had she got up there and sang a Barbra Streisand tune, you know all HOLY HELL would be raised, seen and heard lol

But to Bey's defence, Etta wasn't in a good condition to perform the song(according to her son).

However, singing "At Last" is a PROOF that the girl couldn't find anything worth substance from her own repertoire.
[Edited 3/19/10 15:49pm]

Hell, MY mother would've gone through the television to whoop her ass lol
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Reply #154 posted 03/19/10 5:16pm

angel345

Harlepolis said:

angel345 said:


lol @ the name Crayola, but yes Paul Mooney said the same comment about Etta James.


nod

Had she got up there and sang a Barbra Streisand tune, you know all HOLY HELL would be raised, seen and heard lol

But to Bey's defence, Etta wasn't in a good condition to perform the song(according to her son).
However, singing "At Last" is a PROOF that the girl couldn't find anything worth substance from her own repertoire.
[Edited 3/19/10 15:49pm]

If memory serves me, didn't Etta James give a show in Canada, after the inauguration, and said Obama is not her President, and that she wanted to beat up Beyonce for singing her song lol
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Reply #155 posted 03/19/10 5:28pm

Harlepolis

angel345 said:

Harlepolis said:



nod

Had she got up there and sang a Barbra Streisand tune, you know all HOLY HELL would be raised, seen and heard lol

But to Bey's defence, Etta wasn't in a good condition to perform the song(according to her son).
However, singing "At Last" is a PROOF that the girl couldn't find anything worth substance from her own repertoire.
[Edited 3/19/10 15:49pm]

If memory serves me, didn't Etta James give a show in Canada, after the inauguration, and said Obama is not her President, and that she wanted to beat up Beyonce for singing her song lol


Yep, and that comment was also proof of her mental condition,,,,again according to her son nod
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Reply #156 posted 03/19/10 5:46pm

angel345

Harlepolis said:

angel345 said:


If memory serves me, didn't Etta James give a show in Canada, after the inauguration, and said Obama is not her President, and that she wanted to beat up Beyonce for singing her song lol


Yep, and that comment was also proof of her mental condition,,,,again according to her son nod

I see nod
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Reply #157 posted 03/19/10 5:58pm

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Harlepolis said:

angel345 said:


lol @ the name Crayola, but yes Paul Mooney said the same comment about Etta James.


nod

Had she got up there and sang a Barbra Streisand tune, you know all HOLY HELL would be raised, seen and heard lol

But to Bey's defence, Etta wasn't in a good condition to perform the song(according to her son).

However, singing "At Last" is a PROOF that the girl couldn't find anything worth substance from her own repertoire.
[Edited 3/19/10 15:49pm]

sigh

I've said before... it comes down to nobody giving a damn about Etta James, black or white...

She's not that important, its that simple. There woulda been an uproar if it was an Aretha song too...

At Last has been sung by so many ppl, nobody knows or cares who sang it first, it comes down to that.... everyone knows Aretha was the first to sing I Never Loved A Man... its not about color, its about status...

If it was about color, Aretha's fat black, croaky singin ass wouldn't have been invited to any events for the past 10 years... she's a hot ass mess in every way imaginable, with a skank attitude to match, and she gets away with it... because of her STATUS...; everythin aint about black and white...
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Reply #158 posted 03/19/10 6:14pm

Harlepolis

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I've said before... it comes down to nobody giving a damn about Etta James, black or white...

She's not that important, its that simple. There woulda been an uproar if it was an Aretha song too...

At Last has been sung by so many ppl, nobody knows or cares who sang it first, it comes down to that.... everyone knows Aretha was the first to sing I Never Loved A Man... its not about color, its about status...

If it was about color, Aretha's fat black, croaky singin ass wouldn't have been invited to any events for the past 10 years... she's a hot ass mess in every way imaginable, with a skank attitude to match, and she gets away with it... because of her STATUS...; everythin aint about black and white...


Says who? confused

Just because YOU don't give a damn about her, does not mean other folks don't.

And the reason why nobody made an uproar is because folks are TOO BUSY with their own lives to be picketing outside over who SINGS what song like a bunch of no lives having, in need of a GOOD lay dumb mofos shrug do I think its unfair to Ms.Peaches? Sure I do, but I don't think it will take anything from her legacy, because anybody who LISTENS to music with their ears instead of their eyes will tell you who OWNS this song,,,,,and it ain't and never will be "Beysus".
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Reply #159 posted 03/19/10 6:33pm

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Oh hell naw! I think Questlove has lost his motherfucking mind and this shit was a cry for help!! eek
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Reply #160 posted 03/19/10 6:42pm

Timmy84

sleepyq said:

Harlepolis said:



nod

Had she got up there and sang a Barbra Streisand tune, you know all HOLY HELL would be raised, seen and heard lol

But to Bey's defence, Etta wasn't in a good condition to perform the song(according to her son).

However, singing "At Last" is a PROOF that the girl couldn't find anything worth substance from her own repertoire.
[Edited 3/19/10 15:49pm]

sigh

I've said before... it comes down to nobody giving a damn about Etta James, black or white...

She's not that important, its that simple. There woulda been an uproar if it was an Aretha song too...

At Last has been sung by so many ppl, nobody knows or cares who sang it first, it comes down to that.... everyone knows Aretha was the first to sing I Never Loved A Man... its not about color, its about status...

If it was about color, Aretha's fat black, croaky singin ass wouldn't have been invited to any events for the past 10 years... she's a hot ass mess in every way imaginable, with a skank attitude to match, and she gets away with it... because of her STATUS...; everythin aint about black and white...


Oh please. I know who Etta was/is and I'm 25 years old. It has to do with music education. lol And everyone KNOWS Etta did "At Last" most famously, so don't get it twisted. lol

Aretha is one of the few legends everyone recognizes but people know who Etta is too lol
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Reply #161 posted 03/19/10 6:43pm

Timmy84

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Oh hell naw! I think Questlove has lost his motherfucking mind and this shit was a cry for help!! eek


Or Mathew Knowles putting the gun to his Afro. lol
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Reply #162 posted 03/19/10 6:44pm

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Harlepolis said:

sleepyq said:


I've said before... it comes down to nobody giving a damn about Etta James, black or white...

She's not that important, its that simple. There woulda been an uproar if it was an Aretha song too...

At Last has been sung by so many ppl, nobody knows or cares who sang it first, it comes down to that.... everyone knows Aretha was the first to sing I Never Loved A Man... its not about color, its about status...

If it was about color, Aretha's fat black, croaky singin ass wouldn't have been invited to any events for the past 10 years... she's a hot ass mess in every way imaginable, with a skank attitude to match, and she gets away with it... because of her STATUS...; everythin aint about black and white...


Says who? confused

Just because YOU don't give a damn about her, does not mean other folks don't.

And the reason why nobody made an uproar is because folks are TOO BUSY with their own lives to be picketing outside over who SINGS what song like a bunch of no lives having, in need of a GOOD lay dumb mofos shrug do I think its unfair to Ms.Peaches? Sure I do, but I don't think it will take anything from her legacy, because anybody who LISTENS to music with their ears instead of their eyes will tell you who OWNS this song,,,,,and it ain't and never will be "Beysus".


I don't know Harle, if that heffa tried that shit with Aretha and I'd just have to be one of those swell life having, gets laid GOOD and PLENTY, smart ass mofos picketing outside over who SINGS what song! razz
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Reply #163 posted 03/19/10 6:57pm

Harlepolis

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Harlepolis said:



Says who? confused

Just because YOU don't give a damn about her, does not mean other folks don't.

And the reason why nobody made an uproar is because folks are TOO BUSY with their own lives to be picketing outside over who SINGS what song like a bunch of no lives having, in need of a GOOD lay dumb mofos shrug do I think its unfair to Ms.Peaches? Sure I do, but I don't think it will take anything from her legacy, because anybody who LISTENS to music with their ears instead of their eyes will tell you who OWNS this song,,,,,and it ain't and never will be "Beysus".


I don't know Harle, if that heffa tried that shit with Aretha and I'd just have to be one of those swell life having, gets laid GOOD and PLENTY, smart ass mofos picketing outside over who SINGS what song! razz


I wouldn't,,,,,I would sit on my couch with a popcorn having a helluva chuckle watching Aretha paying her & her daddy a "memorable" visit.

But my point wasn't "who's song she sang this time" as it was "WHY she sang other people's songs instead of choosing from her own", and the answe can be found in chickenheadville.
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Reply #164 posted 03/19/10 7:36pm

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Harlepolis said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



I don't know Harle, if that heffa tried that shit with Aretha and I'd just have to be one of those swell life having, gets laid GOOD and PLENTY, smart ass mofos picketing outside over who SINGS what song! razz


I wouldn't,,,,,I would sit on my couch with a popcorn having a helluva chuckle watching Aretha paying her & her daddy a "memorable" visit.

But my point wasn't "who's song she sang this time" as it was "WHY she sang other people's songs instead of choosing from her own", and the answe can be found in chickenheadville.
[Edited 3/19/10 19:00pm]

falloff I'd have me a ringside seat going "Get 'em Re Re!"
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Reply #165 posted 03/19/10 7:58pm

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Harlepolis said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



I don't know Harle, if that heffa tried that shit with Aretha and I'd just have to be one of those swell life having, gets laid GOOD and PLENTY, smart ass mofos picketing outside over who SINGS what song! razz


I wouldn't,,,,,I would sit on my couch with a popcorn having a helluva chuckle watching Aretha paying her & her daddy a "memorable" visit.

But my point wasn't "who's song she sang this time" as it was "WHY she sang other people's songs instead of choosing from her own", and the answe can be found in chickenheadville.
[Edited 3/19/10 19:00pm]


falloff @ the thought of Beyonce gettin' slapped by two titties lol
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Reply #166 posted 03/19/10 8:01pm

Harlepolis

bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:



I wouldn't,,,,,I would sit on my couch with a popcorn having a helluva chuckle watching Aretha paying her & her daddy a "memorable" visit.

But my point wasn't "who's song she sang this time" as it was "WHY she sang other people's songs instead of choosing from her own", and the answe can be found in chickenheadville.
[Edited 3/19/10 19:00pm]


falloff @ the thought of Beyonce gettin' slapped by two titties lol


disbelief

Thats satan! Fuck you satan, I mean I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
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Reply #167 posted 03/20/10 12:07am

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Beyonce makes horrible music that no one will listen to in the future.
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Reply #168 posted 03/20/10 12:13am

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Harlepolis said:

bboy87 said:



falloff @ the thought of Beyonce gettin' slapped by two titties lol


disbelief

Thats satan! Fuck you satan, I mean I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.

evillol
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Reply #169 posted 03/21/10 11:07am

murph

You guys are hilarious....lol
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Reply #170 posted 03/21/10 11:28am

angel345

Harlepolis said:

sleepyq said:


I've said before... it comes down to nobody giving a damn about Etta James, black or white...

She's not that important, its that simple. There woulda been an uproar if it was an Aretha song too...

At Last has been sung by so many ppl, nobody knows or cares who sang it first, it comes down to that.... everyone knows Aretha was the first to sing I Never Loved A Man... its not about color, its about status...

If it was about color, Aretha's fat black, croaky singin ass wouldn't have been invited to any events for the past 10 years... she's a hot ass mess in every way imaginable, with a skank attitude to match, and she gets away with it... because of her STATUS...; everythin aint about black and white...


Says who? confused

Just because YOU don't give a damn about her, does not mean other folks don't.

And the reason why nobody made an uproar is because folks are TOO BUSY with their own lives to be picketing outside over who SINGS what song like a bunch of no lives having, in need of a GOOD lay dumb mofos shrug do I think its unfair to Ms.Peaches? Sure I do, but I don't think it will take anything from her legacy, because anybody who LISTENS to music with their ears instead of their eyes will tell you who OWNS this song,,,,,and it ain't and never will be "Beysus".

I see what you mean and sleepy, too. Sleepy is saying in so many words who let the dogs out. You are saying that the older generation knows who she is, and that she popularized that song, first. Therefore, its her signature song. This is a clash of two generations, but I see the point. If Beyonce sung a Peggy Lee or Patsy Cline song today, would all hell break loose, and they're not as big as Barbara Streisand. If a black man sung an Elvis song, I know hell would definitely break loose. In MJ's case, his music and persona crossed racial lines, so you're not gonna hear no noise, although I do see what Paul Mooney means about the restrictions, when it comes to color and music.
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Reply #171 posted 03/21/10 6:57pm

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There will NEVER be another Michael Jackson, only a fool would say that...

She might be the next Elvis though....

See, how people don't bring up the "Kang" of Rock N Roll, and compare him to recent upstarts..

Its okay with African Americans though.

F'em, and anyone else comparing MJ to lesser "artists"...
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Reply #172 posted 03/22/10 11:07am

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There will NEVER be another Michael Jackson, only a fool would say that...

She might be the next Elvis though....

See, how people don't bring up the "Kang" of Rock N Roll, and compare him to recent upstarts..

Its okay with African Americans though.

F'em, and anyone else comparing MJ to lesser "artists"...


they compared Eminem to Elvis, and actually they compared MJ to Elvis on plenty of occasions, too
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Reply #173 posted 03/22/10 11:10am

Timmy84

NDRU said:

sunsetdriver1999 said:

There will NEVER be another Michael Jackson, only a fool would say that...

She might be the next Elvis though....

See, how people don't bring up the "Kang" of Rock N Roll, and compare him to recent upstarts..

Its okay with African Americans though.

F'em, and anyone else comparing MJ to lesser "artists"...


they compared Eminem to Elvis, and actually they compared MJ to Elvis on plenty of occasions, too


Bruce Springsteen and Bono have also been compared to Elvis. And believe it or not I HAVE seen the media saying "the new king of rock 'n' roll". Of course either they don't live up to the moniker or they just wither away much like the "new kings of pop". lol
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Reply #174 posted 03/22/10 11:19am

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Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:



they compared Eminem to Elvis, and actually they compared MJ to Elvis on plenty of occasions, too


Bruce Springsteen and Bono have also been compared to Elvis. And believe it or not I HAVE seen the media saying "the new king of rock 'n' roll". Of course either they don't live up to the moniker or they just wither away much like the "new kings of pop". lol


and the Beatles were, too. But in those cases they are creating something new. U2, Bruce, Beatles, MJ are all doing something new.

There is no "new Elvis" as you say. The "new MJ" will be such an amazing artist we won't be comparing them to MJ except in the way you compare the all time greats to one another, like comparing James Brown to The Beatles or Prince to Mozart.
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Reply #175 posted 03/22/10 11:20am

Timmy84

NDRU said:

Timmy84 said:



Bruce Springsteen and Bono have also been compared to Elvis. And believe it or not I HAVE seen the media saying "the new king of rock 'n' roll". Of course either they don't live up to the moniker or they just wither away much like the "new kings of pop". lol


and the Beatles were, too. But in those cases they are creating something new. U2, Bruce, Beatles, MJ are all doing something new.

There is no "new Elvis" as you say. The "new MJ" will be such an amazing artist we won't be comparing them to MJ except in the way you compare the all time greats to one another, like comparing James Brown to The Beatles or Prince to Mozart.


Exactly. When you become a great artist yourself, comparisons be DAMNED lol
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Reply #176 posted 03/22/10 12:24pm

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I'm a little tried of hearing and reading that Ms. Knowles stole something from Ms. James. A lot of aristist/musicians have signature songs sung and recorded by other artist/musicians. What rock have you've been living under? Ms. James didn't even write the damn song. Mack Gordon and Harry Warren wrote the song in 1941: Nat King Cole recorded the song in 57. If the President and/or his wife wanted Ms. James to sing 'At Last" at his Inaugural Balls they would'have invited her but they didn't. The is some Negro mess. If you're going to rip the women base it on something that's tangible instead of that bullshit.
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Reply #177 posted 03/22/10 12:39pm

Timmy84

TD3 said:

I'm a little tried of hearing and reading that Ms. Knowles stole something from Ms. James. A lot of aristist/musicians have signature songs sung and recorded by other artist/musicians. What rock have you've been living under? Ms. James didn't even write the damn song. Mack Gordon and Harry Warren wrote the song in 1941: Nat King Cole recorded the song in 57. If the President and/or his wife wanted Ms. James to sing 'At Last" at his Inaugural Balls they would'have invited her but they didn't. The is some Negro mess. If you're going to rip the women base it on something that's tangible instead of that bullshit.


Why are you making a serious comment after all the mush we've done threw up around this thread? lol
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Reply #178 posted 03/22/10 12:40pm

Timmy84

Amazingly, Mary Wells recorded an uptempo version of "At Last":



Way different from the versions released.
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Reply #179 posted 03/22/10 12:47pm

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Timmy84 said:

TD3 said:

I'm a little tried of hearing and reading that Ms. Knowles stole something from Ms. James. A lot of aristist/musicians have signature songs sung and recorded by other artist/musicians. What rock have you've been living under? Ms. James didn't even write the damn song. Mack Gordon and Harry Warren wrote the song in 1941: Nat King Cole recorded the song in 57. If the President and/or his wife wanted Ms. James to sing 'At Last" at his Inaugural Balls they would'have invited her but they didn't. The is some Negro mess. If you're going to rip the women base it on something that's tangible instead of that bullshit.


Why are you making a serious comment after all the mush we've done threw up around this thread? lol


Because I couldn't take it anymore... I'm mad as hell! wink

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