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Thread started 03/13/10 11:23am

dancerella

Charlie Singleton - Modern Man

Anyone know of this artist who was apparently in Cameo in the 80's before going solo. I just discovered him recently and came across his Modern Man album and I love it. There's a lot of Princefluence (new word haha) on it and synths for days!! He also does a version of Earth to Mickie that I think Chaka Khan did earlier or is it the other way around?? Great Minneapolis synth funk album! cool
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Reply #1 posted 03/14/10 8:11am

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dancerella said:

Anyone know of this artist who was apparently in Cameo in the 80's before going solo. I just discovered him recently and came across his Modern Man album and I love it. There's a lot of Princefluence (new word haha) on it and synths for days!! He also does a version of Earth to Mickie that I think Chaka Khan did earlier or is it the other way around?? Great Minneapolis synth funk album! cool


What Temperton did for MJ & Quincy Jones...Singleton did for Cameo
A GREAT Musician
"Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence
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Reply #2 posted 03/14/10 8:51am

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FalseSetto said:

dancerella said:

Anyone know of this artist who was apparently in Cameo in the 80's before going solo. I just discovered him recently and came across his Modern Man album and I love it. There's a lot of Princefluence (new word haha) on it and synths for days!! He also does a version of Earth to Mickie that I think Chaka Khan did earlier or is it the other way around?? Great Minneapolis synth funk album! cool


What Temperton did for MJ & Quincy Jones...Singleton did for Cameo
A GREAT Musician


I always thought Charlie Singleton was more like what Johnny Graham & Al McKay were toE.W.F., Ernie Isley was to The Isley Brothers, and Jesse Johnson was to The Time....a few of the most extremeley underrated axe men of R&B cool
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Reply #3 posted 03/14/10 10:02am

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I bought the 12" single of Make Your Move On Me, but I never bought that cassette, Modern Man. I may have to do some Goodwill shopping to find it. Charlie is definitely underrated, but all those brothers from Cameo were phenomenal musicians.
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Reply #4 posted 03/14/10 10:05am

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diamondpearl1 said:

FalseSetto said:



What Temperton did for MJ & Quincy Jones...Singleton did for Cameo
A GREAT Musician


I always thought Charlie Singleton was more like what Johnny Graham & Al McKay were toE.W.F., Ernie Isley was to The Isley Brothers, and Jesse Johnson was to The Time....a few of the most extremeley underrated axe men of R&B cool


Yeah...I'd agree with that. A very creative force...in already talented band. Cameo really went new directions largely thanks to Charlie.

Check out his second solo album "Nothing Ventured"...that's got some gems on it, too for sure.

Can't vouch for his musical direction these days.....but check out his new shit....

http://www.hiphopera.biz/
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Reply #5 posted 03/14/10 10:28am

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I've always preached the gospel about Charlie. Another underrated fave of mine who gets no props.


..but in no way am I spending $8.000 for one of his guitars. I could buy 3 or 4 used Les Pauls for that much.
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Reply #6 posted 03/14/10 12:05pm

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I bought the 12" single of Make Your Move On Me, but I never bought that cassette, Modern Man. I may have to do some Goodwill shopping to find it. Charlie is definitely underrated, but all those brothers from Cameo were phenomenal musicians.



Make your move on me is such a great song.I love the entire album. It's funky,new wave and pop/rock all at once.I don't know why I never heard of him before. Very underrated.
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Reply #7 posted 03/14/10 10:11pm

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I might have to listen to it again but it was a bit of a letdown for me.
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Reply #8 posted 03/14/10 10:26pm

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minneapolisFunq said:

I might have to listen to it again but it was a bit of a letdown for me.


Yeah..It was, honestly. I understand Dance's affinity for it (as a young'n & the retro feel).....

But honestly, to have jammed this on my first day of college (Sept. '85)...and to have lived thru Cameo's "Aligator Woman", "Knights Of The Sound Table", "Style", "She's Strange", & "Single Life".....

THAT set the bar HIGH for Charlie as a solo dude. Same thing with Tomi (who also was a letdown largely on his 2 solo discs).

In fairness, Charlie had his moments solo, but if you wanna REALLY get off on some Singleton, jam on the 5 Cameo albums above. Essential '80's funk & Charlie's best work.
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Reply #9 posted 03/14/10 11:25pm

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JamFanHot said:

minneapolisFunq said:

I might have to listen to it again but it was a bit of a letdown for me.


Yeah..It was, honestly. I understand Dance's affinity for it (as a young'n & the retro feel).....

But honestly, to have jammed this on my first day of college (Sept. '85)...and to have lived thru Cameo's "Aligator Woman", "Knights Of The Sound Table", "Style", "She's Strange", & "Single Life".....

THAT set the bar HIGH for Charlie as a solo dude. Same thing with Tomi (who also was a letdown largely on his 2 solo discs).

In fairness, Charlie had his moments solo, but if you wanna REALLY get off on some Singleton, jam on the 5 Cameo albums above. Essential '80's funk & Charlie's best work.



You seriously couldn't get into his solo stuff? Oh man that album is so hot to me! I think you should give it another listen...
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Reply #10 posted 03/15/10 12:50am

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dancerella said:

JamFanHot said:



Yeah..It was, honestly. I understand Dance's affinity for it (as a young'n & the retro feel).....

But honestly, to have jammed this on my first day of college (Sept. '85)...and to have lived thru Cameo's "Aligator Woman", "Knights Of The Sound Table", "Style", "She's Strange", & "Single Life".....

THAT set the bar HIGH for Charlie as a solo dude. Same thing with Tomi (who also was a letdown largely on his 2 solo discs).

In fairness, Charlie had his moments solo, but if you wanna REALLY get off on some Singleton, jam on the 5 Cameo albums above. Essential '80's funk & Charlie's best work.



You seriously couldn't get into his solo stuff? Oh man that album is so hot to me! I think you should give it another listen...
[Edited 3/14/10 23:26pm]


I did, actually. Your love for the album made me pull it out this afternoon. I maintain that his second one was better ("Love Machine" offa that 2'nd joint was the hotness)

The bigger problem though,is just perspective.

The Cameo stuff was SO SO good....funk of the first order for it's time.....it just rules over the solo stuff Charlie did. WE AXIOUSLY waited for his solo debut....and spun it HARD that fall of '85 (esp "When I Drive").

Regardless, always nice to see others discover the jamz of days gone by. At it's worst, it's better than the best of 85% of today, IMHO.
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Reply #11 posted 03/15/10 10:21am

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diamondpearl1 said:

FalseSetto said:



What Temperton did for MJ & Quincy Jones...Singleton did for Cameo
A GREAT Musician


I always thought Charlie Singleton was more like what Johnny Graham & Al McKay were toE.W.F., Ernie Isley was to The Isley Brothers, and Jesse Johnson was to The Time....a few of the most extremeley underrated axe men of R&B cool


I dis agree
He waaay more for them than Johnny Graham

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Reply #12 posted 03/15/10 11:48am

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JamFanHot said:

dancerella said:




You seriously couldn't get into his solo stuff? Oh man that album is so hot to me! I think you should give it another listen...
[Edited 3/14/10 23:26pm]


I did, actually. Your love for the album made me pull it out this afternoon. I maintain that his second one was better ("Love Machine" offa that 2'nd joint was the hotness)

The bigger problem though,is just perspective.

The Cameo stuff was SO SO good....funk of the first order for it's time.....it just rules over the solo stuff Charlie did. WE AXIOUSLY waited for his solo debut....and spun it HARD that fall of '85 (esp "When I Drive").

Regardless, always nice to see others discover the jamz of days gone by. At it's worst, it's better than the best of 85% of today, IMHO.




Man you gave it another listen and you're still not feeling it. Fair enough. By the way, When I Drive and In This Town are the bomb tracks. Love them!!
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