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CHIC0

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"Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill"



so i put this on the other day; after not hearing it for quite sometime...
this really is an amazing album. what happened after that, i'm not sure. i forgot how much i enjoyed this. not to mention the fact that SANTANA is on it. drool


1. "Intro"
2. "Lost Ones"
3. "Ex-Factor"
4. "To Zion" (feat. Carlos Santana)
5. "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
6. "Superstar"
7. "Final Hour"
8. "When It Hurts So Bad"
9. "I Used To Love Him"
10. "Forgive Them Father"
11. "Every Ghetto, Every City"
12. "Nothing Even Matters"
13. "Everything Is Everything"
14. "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill"
15. "Can't Take My Eyes Off You"
16. "Tell Him"

what are your favourite tracks off this one?

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Reply #1 posted 03/09/10 8:12am

ABeautifulOne

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"Every Ghetto, Every City" was my ultimate favorite as a kid.
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Reply #2 posted 03/09/10 8:20am

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really awesome. miss her.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #3 posted 03/09/10 8:24am

SoulAlive

"Doo Wop (That Thing)" and "When It Hurts So Bad" are my favorites,but the entire album is excellent.One of the greatest albums of the 90s.
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Reply #4 posted 03/09/10 9:41am

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My favorite is the title cut, very Stevie Wonderish.
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Reply #5 posted 03/09/10 10:08am

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SoulAlive said:

but the entire album is excellent.One of the greatest albums of the 90s.


agreed!
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Reply #6 posted 03/09/10 10:13am

Thibaut

To Zion is my favorite
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Reply #7 posted 03/09/10 10:57am

Harlepolis

MidniteMagnet said:

My favorite is the title cut, very Stevie Wonderish.



Really? hmmm I've always thought the song sounds like a tribute to Donny Hathaway, esp the fender rhodes and singing.
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Reply #8 posted 03/09/10 10:58am

midiscover

Yea, she was cool.
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Reply #9 posted 03/09/10 11:00am

Harlepolis

What you want might make you cry
What you need might pass you by
If you don't catch it
And what you need ironically
Will turn out what you want to be
If you just let it


I relate to the album as a WHOLE, but mostly this song.

Love her version of the Frankie Valli song love I was in love when I heard it the 1st time in Conspiracy Theory.
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Reply #10 posted 03/09/10 11:08am

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i used to play this album all the time cool. i guess my favorites are ex-factor, doo wop (that thing), final hour and tell him (which i'm listening to right now music). all of them are pretty decent though. i even liked her unplugged album when she was just starting to crack. she was such a cutie too love. hope she gets it together and does something cuz she was really good touched
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Reply #11 posted 03/09/10 11:17am

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Ex Factor got run into the ground I loved and played it so much.


Also loved Everything is Everything.
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Reply #12 posted 03/09/10 11:33am

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I like it as a piece, but I guess "Ex-Factor" and "Tell Him" are my absolute favourites.

With Ex-Factor, I like that it sounds so genuine and heartfelt, and how it perfectly captured something musically that looked backwards and forwards at the same time.

And with Tell Him, it's just so simple and a bit awkward and 'unpolished', but that only adds to its charm. Plus, I think, lyrically, it's a very nice take on 1 Corinthians 13, but again it sounds like there's a genuine relationship with the text there. Thinking about it, I also kind of like the way, even though it's a devotional song, it doesn't have a more conventional 'gospel' sound. All a bit like what I used to like about Prince in days gone by, in some ways.
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Reply #13 posted 03/09/10 11:36am

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so she had a couple kids....an unplugged album...then what? why'd she practically fall of the face of the earth? is she not interested in making music anymore? i heard someone say she became a hot mess. lol i hope that's not true.
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Reply #14 posted 03/09/10 11:36am

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"loving you is like a battle and we both end up with scars."


almost every relationship I've ever had. sigh


preach lauryn!
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Reply #15 posted 03/09/10 12:27pm

Harlepolis

DesireeNevermind said:

"loving you is like a battle and we both end up with scars."


almost every relationship I've ever had. sigh


preach lauryn!


She said that this song took as many takes as she could, because by the time she reaches 1/2 way through it, she'd end up crying.

The song is def emotionally charged,,,,I always get a lumpy throat at the end when the doo-wop background take it to the end.
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Reply #16 posted 03/09/10 12:29pm

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Harlepolis said:

DesireeNevermind said:

"loving you is like a battle and we both end up with scars."


almost every relationship I've ever had. sigh


preach lauryn!


She said that this song took as many takes as she could, because by the time she reaches 1/2 way through it, she'd end up crying.

The song is def emotionally charged,,,,I always get a lumpy throat at the end when the doo-wop background take it to the end.




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Reply #17 posted 03/09/10 1:00pm

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Fantastic album.

Ex Factor & Nothing Even Matters are my favorites. music
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Reply #18 posted 03/09/10 3:51pm

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I can't speak to what might have happened in her personal life, or what what happened to her professional one either, but she'll always have the bragging rights to having put out an amazing hit record. I loved/love every cut on this CD, and even loved the cover. The entire effort was a hit, and I was certain the sky was the limit for her at that point. Life can be very interesting when you think about it.
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Reply #19 posted 03/09/10 4:17pm

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I remember going to see her tour in support of this album and she was playing the theatre @ Madison Square Garden and people was starting to get inpatient and in walks Prince and Mayte and after they were seated the lights went out and Lauryn Rocked it!!!!


Sidenote

She had a segment when her and the band battled the dj.. she would sing a old school song and then the dj would come back with a old school track (trying to top each other.. She sang Don't Stop Til You Get Enough and the dj came back with When Doves Cry... the place went crazy and it was cool that he was sitting in the audience
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Reply #20 posted 03/09/10 4:28pm

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banks said:

I remember going to see her tour in support of this album and she was playing the theatre @ Madison Square Garden and people was starting to get inpatient and in walks Prince and Mayte and after they were seated the lights went out and Lauryn Rocked it!!!!


Sidenote

She had a segment when her and the band battled the dj.. she would sing a old school song and then the dj would come back with a old school track (trying to top each other.. She sang Don't Stop Til You Get Enough and the dj came back with When Doves Cry... the place went crazy and it was cool that he was sitting in the audience

WOW, what a cool moment. The best stuff is never captured on YouTube, but by the experience of actually being there, when it happens.
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Reply #21 posted 03/09/10 8:00pm

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Ex-Factor
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Reply #22 posted 03/10/10 12:26am

SoulAlive

banks said:

I remember going to see her tour in support of this album and she was playing the theatre @ Madison Square Garden and people was starting to get inpatient and in walks Prince and Mayte and after they were seated the lights went out and Lauryn Rocked it!!!!


Sidenote

She had a segment when her and the band battled the dj.. she would sing a old school song and then the dj would come back with a old school track (trying to top each other.. She sang Don't Stop Til You Get Enough and the dj came back with When Doves Cry... the place went crazy and it was cool that he was sitting in the audience


I saw her in concert in the summer of 1999.Carlos Santana made a guest appearance,playing guitar on "To Zion" music
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Reply #23 posted 03/10/10 10:10am

SilverlakePhil

banks said:

I remember going to see her tour in support of this album and she was playing the theatre @ Madison Square Garden and people was starting to get inpatient and in walks Prince and Mayte and after they were seated the lights went out and Lauryn Rocked it!!!!


Sidenote

She had a segment when her and the band battled the dj.. she would sing a old school song and then the dj would come back with a old school track (trying to top each other.. She sang Don't Stop Til You Get Enough and the dj came back with When Doves Cry... the place went crazy and it was cool that he was sitting in the audience


There's an excellent Japanese concert out there on the net that has a segment like this , but I think they do different songs. It's really great, should have been released officially.
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Reply #24 posted 03/10/10 11:16am

Empress

Absolutely great cd. I love it and still listen to it often.
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Reply #25 posted 03/10/10 12:44pm

Musicslave

Wow, you picked one of my favorites. Thankfully you didn't ask us to narrow it down to one song. Modern day classic. This record mastered paying homage to past influences without sounded contrived or dated. She also had contemporary songs that were ahead of their time. Beautiful mix of live instrumentation and studio programming. The entire background vocals sounds like the Bob Marley's "I Three's".

Lost Ones - Watch out Wyclef....Dope delivery. Love how taunting it was. "You just lost one. What a bum bum" razz I loved how aggressive she was lyrically too.

Ex-Factor - This one seemed to resonate with everyone I knew. I believe her hurt was contagious. Santana kills his solo of course.

Final Hour - Her rhyming skills are on full display here.
Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Tell Him
I Used To Love Him - Always loved the harmonies throughout the song. Nice message. It even features a decent MJB before she enrolled in screaming school.

I'm stopping now...

Oh BTW, Tell Alicia Keys to get her own vocal style too. Yes, if you ask me, she bit her style hard. No, AK doesn't sound as good as Lauryn. Hell no. But she bit her singing style hard to me. She replicate certain runs and phrases often.
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Reply #26 posted 03/10/10 12:47pm

Musicslave

banks said:

I remember going to see her tour in support of this album and she was playing the theatre @ Madison Square Garden and people was starting to get inpatient and in walks Prince and Mayte and after they were seated the lights went out and Lauryn Rocked it!!!!


Sidenote

She had a segment when her and the band battled the dj.. she would sing a old school song and then the dj would come back with a old school track (trying to top each other.. She sang Don't Stop Til You Get Enough and the dj came back with When Doves Cry... the place went crazy and it was cool that he was sitting in the audience


Damn! I'm jealous.
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Reply #27 posted 03/10/10 3:43pm

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This is one of my absolute all time favorite albums, actually I think it's number 3 on the list.
Every song to me was a hit....I never skip to the next song, because I want to relive the whole album again and again....to me that is what makes a great album when every song takes you there.
I saw her at NJPAC in Newark and trust me the energy was HIGH cuz she was one of us coming to perform for us in her city....I bought only one ticket and was 2 rows from the stage.I actually felt honored!
She was ELECTRIC, I mean just BRILLIANT. The whole evening was mind blowing and I stood there like Ms. Hill wrote specifically those songs for me. She would go pass me on the stage and look directly at me at some points...need I say the tears flowed....I cannot describe how powerful that moment was for me.
I wish so bad that she would just do it again...just take us there one more time.
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Reply #28 posted 03/10/10 3:46pm

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I have to also add this...
Lauryn Hill MC LYTE
& MS Dynamite

In no particular order are WICKED on the mic.
"A Man Can't Ride Your Back Unless It's Bent" MLK 4/3/68
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Reply #29 posted 03/10/10 3:49pm

midiscover

Ex-Factor is so sweet.
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