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Reply #120 posted 03/17/10 5:06pm

Timmy84

carlcranshaw said:

I think Q's success as a producer is due to him being a combination of a arranger/orchestrator, casting director and an executive who knows how to do the paperwork.

His real genius is combining the Jazz Theory Ray Charles taught him with the Classical Orchestration that Nadia Boulanger taught him.

He can write a score without using a piano which is amazing!

The arrangements on "Sinatra At The Sands" are sexy like Jill St. John in 'Diamonds Are Forever'.

I think on his early 70's recordings he would have the jazz cats come in and play and it would sound like very hip instrumental music.

The Brothers Johnson give him a funkier palette to work with.

I think on "Stuff Like That" he started the concept of guest vocalists. And at the same time he had Jerry Hey and Paulinho Da Costa writing these great horn and rhythm arrangements.

Then he heard Rod Temperton's songwriting in Heatwave that he loved with all of the natural counterpoint.

When the time came to do "Off The Wall" he combined those elements.

BUT Q did not blow up MJ. MJ blew up Q.

Q produced a few more albums in addition to his work with MJ and we weren't jamming to "Ai No Corrida" and "Love Is In Control" like we were jamming to "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Billie Jean" so that TELLS you something.

And I guess the "Musical Community Organizer" aspect of Q for the past few years has been to cast each new generation doing "The Q Songbook" which is valid but that seems to get diminishing returns with the level of talent he has to work with.

Hopefully "Q Cosa Nostra" won't turn out to be "Back On The Chopping Block".


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Reply #121 posted 03/18/10 6:54am

Graycap23

carlcranshaw said:

I think Q's success as a producer is due to him being a combination of a arranger/orchestrator, casting director and an executive who knows how to do the paperwork.

His real genius is combining the Jazz Theory Ray Charles taught him with the Classical Orchestration that Nadia Boulanger taught him.

He can write a score without using a piano which is amazing!

The arrangements on "Sinatra At The Sands" are sexy like Jill St. John in 'Diamonds Are Forever'.

I think on his early 70's recordings he would have the jazz cats come in and play and it would sound like very hip instrumental music.

The Brothers Johnson give him a funkier palette to work with.

I think on "Stuff Like That" he started the concept of guest vocalists. And at the same time he had Jerry Hey and Paulinho Da Costa writing these great horn and rhythm arrangements.

Then he heard Rod Temperton's songwriting in Heatwave that he loved with all of the natural counterpoint.

When the time came to do "Off The Wall" he combined those elements.

BUT Q did not blow up MJ. MJ blew up Q.

Q produced a few more albums in addition to his work with MJ and we weren't jamming to "Ai No Corrida" and "Love Is In Control" like we were jamming to "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Billie Jean" so that TELLS you something.

And I guess the "Musical Community Organizer" aspect of Q for the past few years has been to cast each new generation doing "The Q Songbook" which is valid but that seems to get diminishing returns with the level of talent he has to work with.

Hopefully "Q Cosa Nostra" won't turn out to be "Back On The Chopping Block".

Nutshell.....summed.
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Reply #122 posted 03/18/10 7:54pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:




I agree.Quincy used to be one of the greatest producers of our time,but those days are long gone! He's become artistically lazy and complacent,allowing rappers and guest artists to dominate his own album.It's sad that he's choosing to go out this way.


He's been like that since the ending of his production days with MJ.


No Quincy hasn't I'm so sick of u judgmental people attacking Quincy. He discovered one of the best singers if not the best in my opinion of his generation. Mr. Tevin Campbell since MJ.....
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #123 posted 03/18/10 7:55pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Timmy84 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:





So what! I never claimed I didn't. But I knew most of his history from an interview he gave recently, I never knew he was responsible for Lady Gaga until that interview recently. He is set for the rest life off of her alone


It's still a Wikipedia claim. giggle And that wasn't to attack ya, just saying. smile



Yes it was an attack & U know it. But I forgive U this time...lol
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Reply #124 posted 03/18/10 8:00pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

rainman1985 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:





Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there


That doesn't really answer my question. What are the great songs Akon has been apart of and what part did he play? One of the most versatile RnB singer of the 21st century? That nassally whiny thin and often procesed to hell voice is not something I would wanna put out there as a great instrument. You seem to be a fan so tell me, what are the great songs he has written or performed on? His grammy nom was for "Smack That", I know that song, it's terrible so I again I wouldn't be bragging about that.



Actually I'm not a fan of his at all. I also think his singing voice is horrible. I was just pointing out 2 U. That he has been very successful. Especially with discovering Lady Gaga.
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Reply #125 posted 03/18/10 8:03pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

bboy87 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:





Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there


I don't think rainman was asking for stats.....




Whether he was or not. He now knows how successful & a mega millionaire Akon is
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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #126 posted 03/19/10 5:16pm

seeingvoices12

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Adisa said:

Dancelot said:

and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" biggrin superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today

I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. shrug Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it.

I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is barf


BUMP...

I swear that Im still laughing at this ...Wincy clones falloff falloff falloff
falloff...whenever I remember that , I laugh so hard , I don't know why.....Wincy falloff
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Reply #127 posted 03/19/10 5:19pm

rainman1985

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rainman1985 said:



That doesn't really answer my question. What are the great songs Akon has been apart of and what part did he play? One of the most versatile RnB singer of the 21st century? That nassally whiny thin and often procesed to hell voice is not something I would wanna put out there as a great instrument. You seem to be a fan so tell me, what are the great songs he has written or performed on? His grammy nom was for "Smack That", I know that song, it's terrible so I again I wouldn't be bragging about that.



Actually I'm not a fan of his at all. I also think his singing voice is horrible. I was just pointing out 2 U. That he has been very successful. Especially with discovering Lady Gaga.

But I acknowledged he was successful and my question was why\how? Two different things...
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Reply #128 posted 03/19/10 5:22pm

Cinnie

bboy87 said:

Akon doing Strawberry Letter 23?!

lol
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Reply #129 posted 03/19/10 5:37pm

kenny88

He's ruining his legacy. Now Quicny is trying way too hard to fit in.
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Reply #130 posted 03/19/10 5:45pm

sleepyq

I need to know somethin...

did 2Pac really say in an interview that Quincy wanted him to fuck him in the ass? DID HE SAY THAT?!

eek eek eek eek

Whats up with all thse runmors and shit?
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Reply #131 posted 03/19/10 5:52pm

seeingvoices12

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sleepyq said:

I need to know somethin...

did 2Pac really say in an interview that Quincy wanted him to fuck him in the ass? DID HE SAY THAT?!

eek eek eek eek

Whats up with all thse runmors and shit?

hmm eek hmm
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Reply #132 posted 03/19/10 6:01pm

sleepyq

seeingvoices12 said:

sleepyq said:

I need to know somethin...

did 2Pac really say in an interview that Quincy wanted him to fuck him in the ass? DID HE SAY THAT?!

eek eek eek eek

Whats up with all thse runmors and shit?

hmm eek hmm

I saw this thing... and there was a clip of a 2Pac interview... and he was talkin about Quincy propositionin him sexually... givin an altermatum...

eek eek eek

Did Quincy collect sexual favors from male artists and actors so they could move up the ladder? IS THIS TRUE?!
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Reply #133 posted 03/19/10 6:13pm

seeingvoices12

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sleepyq said:

seeingvoices12 said:


hmm eek hmm

I saw this thing... and there was a clip of a 2Pac interview... and he was talkin about Quincy propositionin him sexually... givin an altermatum...

eek eek eek

Did Quincy collect sexual favors from male artists and actors so they could move up the ladder? IS THIS TRUE?!


The hell hmm , This the first time I hear this, I thought you were joking eek I'm just shocked as you are and I don't know anything.....

WTF eek
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Reply #134 posted 03/19/10 6:40pm

Harlepolis

All I know about 2Pac's attack on Quincy was because he "likes to fuck white women", thats it shrug lol screams like a "no shit" alert to me.

The funny thing about it though was, one of Quincy's daughters(Rashia or the other girl, forgot her name) confronted Pac about it and became friends later.
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Reply #135 posted 03/19/10 6:43pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Harlepolis said:

All I know about 2Pac's attack on Quincy was because he "likes to fuck white women", thats it shrug lol screams like a "no shit" alert to me.

The funny thing about it though was, one of Quincy's daughters(Rashia or the other girl, forgot her name) confronted Pac about it and became friends later.



Her name is Rashida and her and Tupac became a hot item after that until his untimely tragic death
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Reply #136 posted 03/19/10 6:45pm

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

All I know about 2Pac's attack on Quincy was because he "likes to fuck white women", thats it shrug lol screams like a "no shit" alert to me.

The funny thing about it though was, one of Quincy's daughters(Rashia or the other girl, forgot her name) confronted Pac about it and became friends later.


Yeah I think I know what video sleepyg is talking about, it's that video Tony posted about Q being bi. lol
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Reply #137 posted 03/19/10 6:46pm

Timmy84

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Harlepolis said:

All I know about 2Pac's attack on Quincy was because he "likes to fuck white women", thats it shrug lol screams like a "no shit" alert to me.

The funny thing about it though was, one of Quincy's daughters(Rashia or the other girl, forgot her name) confronted Pac about it and became friends later.



Her name is Rashida and her and Tupac became a hot item after that until his untimely tragic death


It was Kidada but yeah they were engaged at one point. I think Rashida confronted 'Pac about Quincy but I'm not sure. I know Tupac wanted to apologize to one of them and he ended up apologizing to Kidada if memory serves me correct.
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Reply #138 posted 03/19/10 7:05pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Timmy84 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:




Her name is Rashida and her and Tupac became a hot item after that until his untimely tragic death


It was Kidada but yeah they were engaged at one point. I think Rashida confronted 'Pac about Quincy but I'm not sure. I know Tupac wanted to apologize to one of them and he ended up apologizing to Kidada if memory serves me correct.



Right he mistaken one for the other
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Reply #139 posted 03/23/10 10:25am

Identity



Get ready to barf while listening to Akon's rendition of "Strawberry Letter 23". I believe Quincy is obligated to make public apologies for his role in facilitating the creation of this monstrosity. confused
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Reply #140 posted 03/23/10 11:45am

seeingvoices12

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When will wincy clones release this?
lol
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