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Reply #90 posted 03/14/10 8:06am

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Wasn't it Joe Jackson that said, "Aww that Quancy ain't no damned producer", or something like that?
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Reply #91 posted 03/14/10 9:31am

Timmy84

Adisa said:

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Wasn't it Joe Jackson that said, "Aww that Quancy ain't no damned producer", or something like that?


lol Yeah I think so. lol

I never thought Joe liked Quincy.
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Reply #92 posted 03/14/10 10:08am

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Holy cow, this is gonna stink!!!!
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Reply #93 posted 03/14/10 10:21am

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MotorBootyAffair said:

Holy cow, this is gonna stink!!!!

lol

I think it's evident to say that the age factor has affected Quincy's Brain and touch.

The First disaster was “We are the world” remake and Now this.

I think he should stay at home and rest for the rest of life.
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Reply #94 posted 03/14/10 9:07pm

rainman1985

Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?
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Reply #95 posted 03/14/10 9:46pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?




Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there
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Reply #96 posted 03/14/10 10:16pm

Timmy84

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rainman1985 said:

Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?




Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there


Dude u ain't slick, you copy and pasted his Wikipedia entry. lol
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Reply #97 posted 03/14/10 10:32pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:





Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there


Dude u ain't slick, you copy and pasted his Wikipedia entry. lol




So what! I never claimed I didn't. But I knew most of his history from an interview he gave recently, I never knew he was responsible for Lady Gaga until that interview recently. He is set for the rest life off of her alone
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Reply #98 posted 03/14/10 10:47pm

SoulAlive

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Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?



I agree.Quincy used to be one of the greatest producers of our time,but those days are long gone! He's become artistically lazy and complacent,allowing rappers and guest artists to dominate his own album.It's sad that he's choosing to go out this way.
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Reply #99 posted 03/15/10 6:35am

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rainman1985 said:

Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?

I don't get it. I don't see or hear any talent from Akon on any level.
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Reply #100 posted 03/15/10 3:39pm

Timmy84

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Timmy84 said:



Dude u ain't slick, you copy and pasted his Wikipedia entry. lol




So what! I never claimed I didn't. But I knew most of his history from an interview he gave recently, I never knew he was responsible for Lady Gaga until that interview recently. He is set for the rest life off of her alone


It's still a Wikipedia claim. giggle And that wasn't to attack ya, just saying. smile
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Reply #101 posted 03/15/10 3:39pm

Timmy84

SoulAlive said:

rainman1985 said:


Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?



I agree.Quincy used to be one of the greatest producers of our time,but those days are long gone! He's become artistically lazy and complacent,allowing rappers and guest artists to dominate his own album.It's sad that he's choosing to go out this way.


He's been like that since the ending of his production days with MJ.
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Reply #102 posted 03/15/10 3:41pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

MotorBootyAffair said:

Holy cow, this is gonna stink!!!!

lol

I think it's evident to say that the age factor has affected Quincy's Brain and touch.

The First disaster was “We are the world” remake and Now this.

I think he should stay at home and rest for the rest of life.
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Reply #103 posted 03/16/10 4:53am

SoulAlive

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:




I agree.Quincy used to be one of the greatest producers of our time,but those days are long gone! He's become artistically lazy and complacent,allowing rappers and guest artists to dominate his own album.It's sad that he's choosing to go out this way.


He's been like that since the ending of his production days with MJ.


sadly,I agree shrug I remember,in the late 80s,around the time of 'Back On The Block',he was doing all these interviews where he raved about hip-hop and how much he admires rappers,blah blah blah rolleyes I was like "Ok,you like rap,but that doesn't mean you have to use all these rappers on YOUR albums!".Who the hell buys a Quincy Jones album to hear rappers anyway??

If I wanna hear Akon,I'll go out and buy an Akon CD! What the hell is Quincy trying to prove?
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Reply #104 posted 03/16/10 12:26pm

rainman1985

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rainman1985 said:

Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?




Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there


That doesn't really answer my question. What are the great songs Akon has been apart of and what part did he play? One of the most versatile RnB singer of the 21st century? That nassally whiny thin and often procesed to hell voice is not something I would wanna put out there as a great instrument. You seem to be a fan so tell me, what are the great songs he has written or performed on? His grammy nom was for "Smack That", I know that song, it's terrible so I again I wouldn't be bragging about that.
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Reply #105 posted 03/16/10 12:28pm

Timmy84

rainman1985 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:





Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there


That doesn't really answer my question. What are the great songs Akon has been apart of and what part did he play? One of the most versatile RnB singer of the 21st century? That nassally whiny thin and often procesed to hell voice is not something I would wanna put out there as a great instrument. You seem to be a fan so tell me, what are the great songs he has written or performed on? His grammy nom was for "Smack That", I know that song, it's terrible so I again I wouldn't be bragging about that.


I know, right? lol Versatile my black ass lol
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Reply #106 posted 03/16/10 12:29pm

Timmy84

SoulAlive said:

Timmy84 said:



He's been like that since the ending of his production days with MJ.


sadly,I agree shrug I remember,in the late 80s,around the time of 'Back On The Block',he was doing all these interviews where he raved about hip-hop and how much he admires rappers,blah blah blah rolleyes I was like "Ok,you like rap,but that doesn't mean you have to use all these rappers on YOUR albums!".Who the hell buys a Quincy Jones album to hear rappers anyway??

If I wanna hear Akon,I'll go out and buy an Akon CD! What the hell is Quincy trying to prove?


I slightly remember hearing how Quincy was one of the many who didn't think rap would survive, I forgot which rapper convinced him it wasn't and because of that, he wanted to work with them to prove it or something. shrug
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Reply #107 posted 03/16/10 8:15pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rainman1985 said:

Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album?




Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs.

So that's how he became a success. So there


I don't think rainman was asking for stats.....
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Reply #108 posted 03/16/10 9:27pm

RipTheJacker

ok....

i would pick Shock G. for "get the funk outma face"(i'm thinking parliament not roger troutman) on bass: Stanley Clarke.

Akon on secret garden? HELL NO!


here's MY secret garden picks in no particular order(Al B. Sure will do the intro.since he was on the original that's a given.)

D'angelo
Anthony Hamilton
Maxwell
Seal
Keith Sweat
Babyface
Raphael Saadiq
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Reply #109 posted 03/17/10 3:34am

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Timmy84 said:

I slightly remember hearing how Quincy was one of the many who didn't think rap would survive, I forgot which rapper convinced him it wasn't and because of that, he wanted to work with them to prove it or something. shrug


not sure about that... "The Dude" title track already included rap, YEARS before anyone else did and before it was the "hip" thing to do. correct me if I'm wrong, but this was probably the first mainstream soul record to do so? I vividly remember listening to that in '81 or '82 saying to myself "cool, even Quincy is taking notice"

he jumped on the bandwaggon when the train was only 10 meters long and only had just left the station. props for that. so if anyone is entiteld to still include rap in his later output it's Quincy
(you might argue that it was not Quincy personally but more Rod Temperton behind it, anticipating things that were about to come, but anyway...)


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Reply #110 posted 03/17/10 3:46am

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and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" biggrin superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today

yeah, if you're not into rap or jazz you might have a problem witrh this CD, I can see that... but it holds some top notch classy arrangments and superb production and a great song selection. and even if you cut out the rap tracks there is still enough great material included. including my fave Phil Collins performance of all times with "Do nothing till you hear from me"
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Reply #111 posted 03/17/10 9:16am

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Dancelot said:

and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" biggrin superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today

I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. shrug Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it.

I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is barf
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Reply #112 posted 03/17/10 9:19am

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Timmy84 said:

I slightly remember hearing how Quincy was one of the many who didn't think rap would survive, I forgot which rapper convinced him it wasn't and because of that, he wanted to work with them to prove it or something. shrug


not sure about that... "The Dude" title track already included rap, YEARS before anyone else did and before it was the "hip" thing to do. correct me if I'm wrong, but this was probably the first mainstream soul record to do so? I vividly remember listening to that in '81 or '82 saying to myself "cool, even Quincy is taking notice"

he jumped on the bandwaggon when the train was only 10 meters long and only had just left the station. props for that. so if anyone is entiteld to still include rap in his later output it's Quincy
(you might argue that it was not Quincy personally but more Rod Temperton behind it, anticipating things that were about to come, but anyway...)


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[Edited 3/17/10 4:09am]


Mellow Madness had a grassroot rap song as well(ala Last Poets) I think its titled Beautiful Black Girl nod

Anyway, this was the Uncle Q I fell in love with...

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Reply #113 posted 03/17/10 10:58am

Timmy84

Adisa said:

Dancelot said:

and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" biggrin superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today

I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. shrug Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it.

I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is barf


falloff @ "Wincy Clones"
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Reply #114 posted 03/17/10 11:13am

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Adisa said:

Dancelot said:

and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" biggrin superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today

I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. shrug Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it.

I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is barf

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Reply #115 posted 03/17/10 4:09pm

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Adisa said:

Dancelot said:

and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" biggrin superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today

I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. shrug Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it.

I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is barf


Finially, a slightly positive reply. I thought I was the only one to see it like this. Iam surprised he is still hyped enough about rnb music these days to even contemplate a new album...

..as for the formula, as I said, its been the same since "the dude" and probably before then for all I know.
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Reply #116 posted 03/17/10 4:13pm

Timmy84

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Adisa said:


I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. shrug Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it.

I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is barf


Finially, a slightly positive reply. I thought I was the only one to see it like this. Iam surprised he is still hyped enough about rnb music these days to even contemplate a new album...

..as for the formula, as I said, its been the same since "the dude" and probably before then for all I know.


The "R&B" music ain't R&B tho. wink
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Reply #117 posted 03/17/10 4:15pm

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Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:



Finially, a slightly positive reply. I thought I was the only one to see it like this. Iam surprised he is still hyped enough about rnb music these days to even contemplate a new album...

..as for the formula, as I said, its been the same since "the dude" and probably before then for all I know.


The "R&B" music ain't R&B tho. wink


Well yes, but you know what I mean. Its called rnb LOL.
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Reply #118 posted 03/17/10 4:27pm

Timmy84

thesexofit said:

Timmy84 said:



The "R&B" music ain't R&B tho. wink


Well yes, but you know what I mean. Its called rnb LOL.


Yeah I know. lol
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Reply #119 posted 03/17/10 5:01pm

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I think Q's success as a producer is due to him being a combination of a arranger/orchestrator, casting director and an executive who knows how to do the paperwork.

His real genius is combining the Jazz Theory Ray Charles taught him with the Classical Orchestration that Nadia Boulanger taught him.

He can write a score without using a piano which is amazing!

The arrangements on "Sinatra At The Sands" are sexy like Jill St. John in 'Diamonds Are Forever'.

I think on his early 70's recordings he would have the jazz cats come in and play and it would sound like very hip instrumental music.

The Brothers Johnson give him a funkier palette to work with.

I think on "Stuff Like That" he started the concept of guest vocalists. And at the same time he had Jerry Hey and Paulinho Da Costa writing these great horn and rhythm arrangements.

Then he heard Rod Temperton's songwriting in Heatwave that he loved with all of the natural counterpoint.

When the time came to do "Off The Wall" he combined those elements.

BUT Q did not blow up MJ. MJ blew up Q.

Q produced a few more albums in addition to his work with MJ and we weren't jamming to "Ai No Corrida" and "Love Is In Control" like we were jamming to "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Billie Jean" so that TELLS you something.

And I guess the "Musical Community Organizer" aspect of Q for the past few years has been to cast each new generation doing "The Q Songbook" which is valid but that seems to get diminishing returns with the level of talent he has to work with.

Hopefully "Q Cosa Nostra" won't turn out to be "Back On The Chopping Block".
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