Wasn't it Joe Jackson that said, "Aww that Quancy ain't no damned producer", or something like that? I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Adisa said: Wasn't it Joe Jackson that said, "Aww that Quancy ain't no damned producer", or something like that? Yeah I think so. I never thought Joe liked Quincy. | |
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Holy cow, this is gonna stink!!!! Katie Kinisky: "So What Are The Latest Dances, Nell?"
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MotorBootyAffair said: Holy cow, this is gonna stink!!!!
I think it's evident to say that the age factor has affected Quincy's Brain and touch. The First disaster was “We are the world” remake and Now this. I think he should stay at home and rest for the rest of life. . MICHAEL JACKSON
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Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? | |
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rainman1985 said: Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs. So that's how he became a success. So there will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: rainman1985 said: Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs. So that's how he became a success. So there Dude u ain't slick, you copy and pasted his Wikipedia entry. | |
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Timmy84 said: KCOOLMUZIQ said: Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs. So that's how he became a success. So there Dude u ain't slick, you copy and pasted his Wikipedia entry. So what! I never claimed I didn't. But I knew most of his history from an interview he gave recently, I never knew he was responsible for Lady Gaga until that interview recently. He is set for the rest life off of her alone will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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rainman1985 said: Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? I agree.Quincy used to be one of the greatest producers of our time,but those days are long gone! He's become artistically lazy and complacent,allowing rappers and guest artists to dominate his own album.It's sad that he's choosing to go out this way. | |
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rainman1985 said: Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? I don't get it. I don't see or hear any talent from Akon on any level. | |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: Timmy84 said: Dude u ain't slick, you copy and pasted his Wikipedia entry. So what! I never claimed I didn't. But I knew most of his history from an interview he gave recently, I never knew he was responsible for Lady Gaga until that interview recently. He is set for the rest life off of her alone It's still a Wikipedia claim. And that wasn't to attack ya, just saying. | |
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SoulAlive said: rainman1985 said: Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? I agree.Quincy used to be one of the greatest producers of our time,but those days are long gone! He's become artistically lazy and complacent,allowing rappers and guest artists to dominate his own album.It's sad that he's choosing to go out this way. He's been like that since the ending of his production days with MJ. | |
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seeingvoices12 said: MotorBootyAffair said: Holy cow, this is gonna stink!!!!
I think it's evident to say that the age factor has affected Quincy's Brain and touch. The First disaster was “We are the world” remake and Now this. I think he should stay at home and rest for the rest of life. . | |
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Timmy84 said: SoulAlive said: I agree.Quincy used to be one of the greatest producers of our time,but those days are long gone! He's become artistically lazy and complacent,allowing rappers and guest artists to dominate his own album.It's sad that he's choosing to go out this way. He's been like that since the ending of his production days with MJ. sadly,I agree I remember,in the late 80s,around the time of 'Back On The Block',he was doing all these interviews where he raved about hip-hop and how much he admires rappers,blah blah blah I was like "Ok,you like rap,but that doesn't mean you have to use all these rappers on YOUR albums!".Who the hell buys a Quincy Jones album to hear rappers anyway?? If I wanna hear Akon,I'll go out and buy an Akon CD! What the hell is Quincy trying to prove? | |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: rainman1985 said: Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs. So that's how he became a success. So there That doesn't really answer my question. What are the great songs Akon has been apart of and what part did he play? One of the most versatile RnB singer of the 21st century? That nassally whiny thin and often procesed to hell voice is not something I would wanna put out there as a great instrument. You seem to be a fan so tell me, what are the great songs he has written or performed on? His grammy nom was for "Smack That", I know that song, it's terrible so I again I wouldn't be bragging about that. | |
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rainman1985 said: KCOOLMUZIQ said: Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs. So that's how he became a success. So there That doesn't really answer my question. What are the great songs Akon has been apart of and what part did he play? One of the most versatile RnB singer of the 21st century? That nassally whiny thin and often procesed to hell voice is not something I would wanna put out there as a great instrument. You seem to be a fan so tell me, what are the great songs he has written or performed on? His grammy nom was for "Smack That", I know that song, it's terrible so I again I wouldn't be bragging about that. I know, right? Versatile my black ass lol | |
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SoulAlive said: Timmy84 said: He's been like that since the ending of his production days with MJ. sadly,I agree I remember,in the late 80s,around the time of 'Back On The Block',he was doing all these interviews where he raved about hip-hop and how much he admires rappers,blah blah blah I was like "Ok,you like rap,but that doesn't mean you have to use all these rappers on YOUR albums!".Who the hell buys a Quincy Jones album to hear rappers anyway?? If I wanna hear Akon,I'll go out and buy an Akon CD! What the hell is Quincy trying to prove? I slightly remember hearing how Quincy was one of the many who didn't think rap would survive, I forgot which rapper convinced him it wasn't and because of that, he wanted to work with them to prove it or something. | |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: rainman1985 said: Can anyone explain to me how Akon became a success... I mean, has he written any decent songs? He seems to be an in demand 'producer' (these days that seems to mean song-writer). Does this dude just arrange simple vocals and program beats and synths on his keyboard or can he actually do something? He put 2pac on a remix of "Lonely" for christ's sake... that was enough for me to wanna stay well the fuck away from him or anything he touches forever.
Quincy went from producing Thriller to becoming a damn zombie... I thought Jook Joint had a lot of guest artists but this takes the cake, what are there gonna be like 50 sets of vocals on this album? Akon has his own label called Kon live distribution under Interscope Records. Akon co-produced Konvict Muzik artist Lady Gaga's first studio album The Fame and co-wrote & produced the worldwide smash-hit "Just Dance", which also featured Colby O'Donis and earned a Grammy nomination at the 51st Grammy Awards. He signed Lady Gaga on his label before she hit it big. He is known as one of the most successful and versatile R&B singers of the 21st century, grossing over 30 million dollars a year according to Forbes.Akon often sings hooks for other artists and is currently accredited with over 300 guest appearances and 40 Billboard Hot 100 songs. So that's how he became a success. So there I don't think rainman was asking for stats..... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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ok....
i would pick Shock G. for "get the funk outma face"(i'm thinking parliament not roger troutman) on bass: Stanley Clarke. Akon on secret garden? HELL NO! here's MY secret garden picks in no particular order(Al B. Sure will do the intro.since he was on the original that's a given.) D'angelo Anthony Hamilton Maxwell Seal Keith Sweat Babyface Raphael Saadiq | |
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Timmy84 said: I slightly remember hearing how Quincy was one of the many who didn't think rap would survive, I forgot which rapper convinced him it wasn't and because of that, he wanted to work with them to prove it or something.
not sure about that... "The Dude" title track already included rap, YEARS before anyone else did and before it was the "hip" thing to do. correct me if I'm wrong, but this was probably the first mainstream soul record to do so? I vividly remember listening to that in '81 or '82 saying to myself "cool, even Quincy is taking notice" he jumped on the bandwaggon when the train was only 10 meters long and only had just left the station. props for that. so if anyone is entiteld to still include rap in his later output it's Quincy (you might argue that it was not Quincy personally but more Rod Temperton behind it, anticipating things that were about to come, but anyway...) . [Edited 3/17/10 4:09am] Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today
yeah, if you're not into rap or jazz you might have a problem witrh this CD, I can see that... but it holds some top notch classy arrangments and superb production and a great song selection. and even if you cut out the rap tracks there is still enough great material included. including my fave Phil Collins performance of all times with "Do nothing till you hear from me" Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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Dancelot said: and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today
I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it. I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Dancelot said: Timmy84 said: I slightly remember hearing how Quincy was one of the many who didn't think rap would survive, I forgot which rapper convinced him it wasn't and because of that, he wanted to work with them to prove it or something.
not sure about that... "The Dude" title track already included rap, YEARS before anyone else did and before it was the "hip" thing to do. correct me if I'm wrong, but this was probably the first mainstream soul record to do so? I vividly remember listening to that in '81 or '82 saying to myself "cool, even Quincy is taking notice" he jumped on the bandwaggon when the train was only 10 meters long and only had just left the station. props for that. so if anyone is entiteld to still include rap in his later output it's Quincy (you might argue that it was not Quincy personally but more Rod Temperton behind it, anticipating things that were about to come, but anyway...) . [Edited 3/17/10 4:09am] Mellow Madness had a grassroot rap song as well(ala Last Poets) I think its titled Beautiful Black Girl Anyway, this was the Uncle Q I fell in love with... | |
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Adisa said: Dancelot said: and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today
I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it. I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is @ "Wincy Clones" | |
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Adisa said: Dancelot said: and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today
I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it. I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is MICHAEL JACKSON
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Adisa said: Dancelot said: and for the record, I absolutely love "Q's Joook joint" superior to "Back on the Block", which didn't age really well and sounds dated today
I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it. I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is Finially, a slightly positive reply. I thought I was the only one to see it like this. Iam surprised he is still hyped enough about rnb music these days to even contemplate a new album... ..as for the formula, as I said, its been the same since "the dude" and probably before then for all I know. | |
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thesexofit said: Adisa said: I agree. Musically I didn't understand the hype surrounding Back On The Block when it was released. Nor did I really like that it had 20,000 artists on it. I think its good that Wincy Clones wants to get back involved in music, esp. at his age, but come on dude. This formula is Finially, a slightly positive reply. I thought I was the only one to see it like this. Iam surprised he is still hyped enough about rnb music these days to even contemplate a new album... ..as for the formula, as I said, its been the same since "the dude" and probably before then for all I know. The "R&B" music ain't R&B tho. | |
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Timmy84 said: thesexofit said: Finially, a slightly positive reply. I thought I was the only one to see it like this. Iam surprised he is still hyped enough about rnb music these days to even contemplate a new album... ..as for the formula, as I said, its been the same since "the dude" and probably before then for all I know. The "R&B" music ain't R&B tho. Well yes, but you know what I mean. Its called rnb LOL. | |
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thesexofit said: Timmy84 said: The "R&B" music ain't R&B tho. Well yes, but you know what I mean. Its called rnb LOL. Yeah I know. | |
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I think Q's success as a producer is due to him being a combination of a arranger/orchestrator, casting director and an executive who knows how to do the paperwork.
His real genius is combining the Jazz Theory Ray Charles taught him with the Classical Orchestration that Nadia Boulanger taught him. He can write a score without using a piano which is amazing! The arrangements on "Sinatra At The Sands" are sexy like Jill St. John in 'Diamonds Are Forever'. I think on his early 70's recordings he would have the jazz cats come in and play and it would sound like very hip instrumental music. The Brothers Johnson give him a funkier palette to work with. I think on "Stuff Like That" he started the concept of guest vocalists. And at the same time he had Jerry Hey and Paulinho Da Costa writing these great horn and rhythm arrangements. Then he heard Rod Temperton's songwriting in Heatwave that he loved with all of the natural counterpoint. When the time came to do "Off The Wall" he combined those elements. BUT Q did not blow up MJ. MJ blew up Q. Q produced a few more albums in addition to his work with MJ and we weren't jamming to "Ai No Corrida" and "Love Is In Control" like we were jamming to "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Billie Jean" so that TELLS you something. And I guess the "Musical Community Organizer" aspect of Q for the past few years has been to cast each new generation doing "The Q Songbook" which is valid but that seems to get diminishing returns with the level of talent he has to work with. Hopefully "Q Cosa Nostra" won't turn out to be "Back On The Chopping Block". "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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