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Thread started 03/07/10 8:59pm

CoolTarik1

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Javier: This brother gets NO love

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Something a lil more funky


Wish I can find a little more of his best songs, but its like radio slept on this dude... he can sing.. and apparently he can play guitar.

Anyone heard of this cat??
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Reply #1 posted 03/07/10 9:41pm

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All I remember from him is this:
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Reply #2 posted 03/07/10 9:49pm

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This guy can really sing and he plays an instrument. I also heard that he writes his own songs too. I've listened to a couple of his songs on youtube, and I'm impressed. I think he's another victim of record companies that don't promote talented artists. Maybe he works for an indie label because you can get more money that way. Does anyone know if he's popular overseas?
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Reply #3 posted 03/07/10 9:50pm

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daPrettyman said:

All I remember from him is this:


Yeah, I remember hearing it on the radio when it first came out. The album cuts are so much better though, Crazy is good.
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Reply #4 posted 03/07/10 9:53pm

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jeami said:

This guy can really sing and he plays an instrument. I also heard that he writes his own songs too. I've listened to a couple of his songs on youtube, and I'm impressed. I think he's another victim of record companies that don't promote talented artists. Maybe he works for an indie label because you can get more money that way. Does anyone know if he's popular overseas?



I'm not sure about his popularity outside of the states, but his two albums are superb; different moods and styles, from contemporary RnB, Soul, balladary, even reggae. I think he probably is a victim of not fitting a niche, though for me, he's miles ahead of most of the Neo Soul artists out there. I just hope he drops another album and tours, he has my attention
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Reply #5 posted 03/07/10 10:06pm

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what about Jaheim?
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Reply #6 posted 03/07/10 10:09pm

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xlr8r said:

what about Jaheim?


Him? I like a few of his songs, but I could take him or leave him, honestly. Good voice though.
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Reply #7 posted 03/08/10 7:50am

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I have Javier's cd, with "A song for your tears". Great CD and my favorite song. His second cd though, is missing something.
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Reply #8 posted 03/08/10 7:52am

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xlr8r said:

what about Jaheim?


Jaheim is too busy sounding like Teddy Pendergrast. He does not have his own sound. Javier, does and this is why I think people have slept on him.
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Reply #9 posted 03/08/10 7:55am

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He's got a second album? Hmmm...
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Reply #10 posted 03/08/10 8:51am

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sosgemini said:

He's got a second album? Hmmm...

I was just about to say the same thing.
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daPrettyman said:

sosgemini said:

He's got a second album? Hmmm...

I was just about to say the same thing.


It's called, "Left of Center". Released about a year or two later.
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Reply #12 posted 03/08/10 10:18am

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shorttrini said:

xlr8r said:

what about Jaheim?


Jaheim is too busy sounding like Teddy Pendergrast. He does not have his own sound. Javier, does and this is why I think people have slept on him.



So, you think that Jaheim is tryin' to sound like Teddy P? I think he just does. That's like saying that Anthony Hamiliton is too busy sounding like Bill Withers. Let's be all the way real here. Jaheim, Tank, Joe, David Hollister, Anthony Hamiliton, and Mint Condition are the ones that get no love in the industry. And what do all the above mentioned have in common? They are seriously underrated. I'm surprised that Javier isn't more popular, because (although I liked "Crazy") his sound is similiar to what's popular today.
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maria1999 said:

shorttrini said:



Jaheim is too busy sounding like Teddy Pendergrast. He does not have his own sound. Javier, does and this is why I think people have slept on him.



So, you think that Jaheim is tryin' to sound like Teddy P? I think he just does. That's like saying that Anthony Hamiliton is too busy sounding like Bill Withers. Let's be all the way real here. Jaheim, Tank, Joe, David Hollister, Anthony Hamiliton, and Mint Condition are the ones that get no love in the industry. And what do all the above mentioned have in common? They are seriously underrated. I'm surprised that Javier isn't more popular, because (although I liked "Crazy") his sound is similiar to what's popular today.

I think Tank is one of the worst singers ever to have a recording contract. I think he's a decent songwriter, but can't stand his singing voice.
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maria1999 said:

shorttrini said:



Jaheim is too busy sounding like Teddy Pendergrast. He does not have his own sound. Javier, does and this is why I think people have slept on him.



So, you think that Jaheim is tryin' to sound like Teddy P? I think he just does. That's like saying that Anthony Hamiliton is too busy sounding like Bill Withers. Let's be all the way real here. Jaheim, Tank, Joe, David Hollister, Anthony Hamiliton, and Mint Condition are the ones that get no love in the industry. And what do all the above mentioned have in common? They are seriously underrated. I'm surprised that Javier isn't more popular, because (although I liked "Crazy") his sound is similiar to what's popular today.


He might not have been trying to at first, but I am sure enough people brought it to his attention. I think the reason that people like Anthony get no loves is because, they don't sound like anybody else and like Sade, he refuses to change things like his style or appearence for the sake of their craft. There is no gimmick with them.
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Reply #15 posted 03/08/10 10:43am

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shorttrini said:

maria1999 said:




So, you think that Jaheim is tryin' to sound like Teddy P? I think he just does. That's like saying that Anthony Hamiliton is too busy sounding like Bill Withers. Let's be all the way real here. Jaheim, Tank, Joe, David Hollister, Anthony Hamiliton, and Mint Condition are the ones that get no love in the industry. And what do all the above mentioned have in common? They are seriously underrated. I'm surprised that Javier isn't more popular, because (although I liked "Crazy") his sound is similiar to what's popular today.


He might not have been trying to at first, but I am sure enough people brought it to his attention. I think the reason that people like Anthony get no loves is because, they don't sound like anybody else and like Sade, he refuses to change things like his style or appearence for the sake of their craft. There is no gimmick with them.

We discussed Jaheim not too long ago (on a thread about his latest single) and someone kept saying they hear more of a Luther influence than a Teddy influence. confused
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shorttrini said:

maria1999 said:




So, you think that Jaheim is tryin' to sound like Teddy P? I think he just does. That's like saying that Anthony Hamiliton is too busy sounding like Bill Withers. Let's be all the way real here. Jaheim, Tank, Joe, David Hollister, Anthony Hamiliton, and Mint Condition are the ones that get no love in the industry. And what do all the above mentioned have in common? They are seriously underrated. I'm surprised that Javier isn't more popular, because (although I liked "Crazy") his sound is similiar to what's popular today.


He might not have been trying to at first, but I am sure enough people brought it to his attention. I think the reason that people like Anthony get no loves is because, they don't sound like anybody else and like Sade, he refuses to change things like his style or appearence for the sake of their craft. There is no gimmick with them.


I bought one of Anthony Hamilton's CDs and just wasn't feeling it. Maybe I will listen to it again and see if my opinion has changed.
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It took me a long time to get used to Anthony, but there is something about the tone of his voice that reminds me of Otis, Wilson Pickett, and Dobie Gray...all rolled into one.I love the track that he did for the "American Gangster", soundtrack....."Do you feel me".
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sosgemini said:

shorttrini said:



He might not have been trying to at first, but I am sure enough people brought it to his attention. I think the reason that people like Anthony get no loves is because, they don't sound like anybody else and like Sade, he refuses to change things like his style or appearence for the sake of their craft. There is no gimmick with them.


I bought one of Anthony Hamilton's CDs and just wasn't feeling it. Maybe I will listen to it again and see if my opinion has changed.

I'm not a fan of Anthony's either. He has a couple of songs that I do like, but I can take him or leave him. I do like the song from the "Daddy's Little Girl Soundtrack", "Struggle No More".
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shorttrini said:

It took me a long time to get used to Anthony, but there is something about the tone of his voice that reminds me of Otis, Wilson Pickett, and Dobie Gray...all rolled into one.I love the track that he did for the "American Gangster", soundtrack....."Do you feel me".


You hit the nail on the head about how his voice sounds.
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daPrettyman said:

shorttrini said:

It took me a long time to get used to Anthony, but there is something about the tone of his voice that reminds me of Otis, Wilson Pickett, and Dobie Gray...all rolled into one.I love the track that he did for the "American Gangster", soundtrack....."Do you feel me".


You hit the nail on the head about how his voice sounds.


This is why, radio gives him no love....he cannot be labled.
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Reply #21 posted 03/08/10 12:05pm

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shorttrini said:

daPrettyman said:



You hit the nail on the head about how his voice sounds.


This is why, radio gives him no love....he cannot be labled.

Anthony gets quite a bit of love on Urban AC radio.
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Reply #22 posted 03/08/10 1:48pm

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daPrettyman said:

shorttrini said:



This is why, radio gives him no love....he cannot be labled.

Anthony gets quite a bit of love on Urban AC radio.


I want Anthony to record a blues-rock album or a funk album and then see if urban AC will play it, bet they won't, they're too stuck on being slow.
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Timmy84 said:

daPrettyman said:


Anthony gets quite a bit of love on Urban AC radio.


I want Anthony to record a blues-rock album or a funk album and then see if urban AC will play it, bet they won't, they're too stuck on being slow.


You mean a la Cody Chestnut? Remember him? His albums are very good, but radio refuses to play them.
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Reply #24 posted 03/08/10 5:10pm

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Timmy84 said:



I want Anthony to record a blues-rock album or a funk album and then see if urban AC will play it, bet they won't, they're too stuck on being slow.


You mean a la Cody Chestnut? Remember him? His albums are very good, but radio refuses to play them.


Yeah him.
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Reply #25 posted 03/08/10 10:31pm

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shorttrini said:

I have Javier's cd, with "A song for your tears". Great CD and my favorite song. His second cd though, is missing something.


Really? I feel both CD's compliment each other, so much that I put them all on a playlist on my ipod. Maybe I need to listen to them individually to see where you are getting at.
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Reply #26 posted 03/08/10 10:34pm

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daPrettyman said:

maria1999 said:




So, you think that Jaheim is tryin' to sound like Teddy P? I think he just does. That's like saying that Anthony Hamiliton is too busy sounding like Bill Withers. Let's be all the way real here. Jaheim, Tank, Joe, David Hollister, Anthony Hamiliton, and Mint Condition are the ones that get no love in the industry. And what do all the above mentioned have in common? They are seriously underrated. I'm surprised that Javier isn't more popular, because (although I liked "Crazy") his sound is similiar to what's popular today.

I think Tank is one of the worst singers ever to have a recording contract. I think he's a decent songwriter, but can't stand his singing voice.



Agreed, though I would be lyin to my momma if I didn't bump this song when it came out;

At this point in history, we have a choice to make
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Reply #27 posted 03/08/10 10:40pm

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sosgemini said:

shorttrini said:



He might not have been trying to at first, but I am sure enough people brought it to his attention. I think the reason that people like Anthony get no loves is because, they don't sound like anybody else and like Sade, he refuses to change things like his style or appearence for the sake of their craft. There is no gimmick with them.


I bought one of Anthony Hamilton's CDs and just wasn't feeling it. Maybe I will listen to it again and see if my opinion has changed.



It takes a while to get into his music, IMO. Originally outside of singles, i felt the same way until they grew on me; I think its the production. He straddles a line between hip hop and classic soul production techniques, but it doesn't always serve the lyric/song all the time. I would love to hear the Roots produce an Anthony Hamiliton album

Check these in the meantime:





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