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Reply #60 posted 03/02/10 5:06pm

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Jackson Family -- MJ's Kids Never in Danger
Posted Mar 2nd 2010 6:19PM by TMZ Staff

The L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services will be hearing different stories from different people about the stun gun incident, because some members of the family are saying the incident lasted only for minutes and none of Michael Jackson's kids were ever in danger, TMZ has learned.



We're told members of the family say the stun gun -- which Jermaine's 13-year-old-son Jaafar purchased online -- was delivered to the home several weeks ago and that Jaafar took it upstairs and was playing with it for only 4 minutes or so ... when Katherine and members of the security team heard noises from the stun gun.

We're told the family is saying there were two other kids in the room with Jaafar -- they say none of Michael's kids were present. The family, we're told, is saying that the gun was then taken away and that was that.

But as we first reported ... others will tell a different story to DCFS. They will tell social workers that Jermaine's son was playing with the stun gun and pointing it at Blanket and Prince, and that the stun gun was there for several days before it was confiscated.

We're also told others will tell DCFS there is another stun gun on the premises, something the Jackson family vehemently denies
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Reply #61 posted 03/02/10 5:31pm

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Well, i already said i'm scared of the Jacksons, so thats just how i feel.Ppl rapin their wives, beatin eachother up, sharin baby mammas, suin eachother, throwin shade at eachother in the press... its scary!

Just compare
The ones who left the house early (Rebbie, Marlon, Jackie, Janet)
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The ones who stayed with Kat & Joe well into their 30s and beyond (Michael, LaToya, Randy, Jermaine)

Just compare Janet to LaToya or Marlon to Jermaine. Same family. So y do some of them seem so normal and others not? U tell me.

actually, Jackie, Randy, and Jermaine moved out when they were all around 19 but then moved back in after they divorced.

I think Jackie is perfectly fine. Hes a doll and can do no wrong in my eyes, so they musta done him right, or he musta got away quick, because none of his kids live there, do they? He doesnt live there, does he? Nuff said.

But Jermaine, Andy,and LaToya lingered with their mamma for what seemed like 4ever. And look at them.

Change of topic: U still havent provided any proof that Jermaine is employed, or has EVER been employed.

You say "Jermaine does Jermaine." What is that? Can u tell me wut he is currently doin to provide for his family? Wut does Randall do to feed his kids? U wanna defend him, but u arent providin any info. Wut do these ppl doto make MONEY? I already showed u y it is certain they make nothin from royalties. So show me. Can u make a list of wut the Jacksons r employed as or wut their steady job is? Thnks.
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Reply #62 posted 03/02/10 6:17pm

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Reply #63 posted 03/02/10 6:22pm

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I never heard of anything going on at the Jackson Family home until Michael Jackson died and his kids moved in. Just keep in mind there is a lot of money at stake here. No one was talking about the family until he passed. Unfortunately, I think they all are targets now, just like Michael was while he was living. It's about controlling the MONEY....
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Reply #64 posted 03/02/10 6:26pm

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I never heard of anything going on at the Jackson Family home until Michael Jackson died and his kids moved in. Just keep in mind there is a lot of money at stake here. No one was talking about the family until he passed. Unfortunately, I think they all are targets now, just like Michael was while he was living. It's about controlling the MONEY....

u nvr heard anythin because nobody cared.

But i agree thast they r targets. i still wish the kids were with Janet, but wut can we do? sad
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Reply #65 posted 03/02/10 6:27pm

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Scorpeze of the group Windimoto wrote this on Okayplayer

Michael's gravy years with CBS Records occurred during the reign of Walter Yetnikoff, then president of CBS Records...Yetnikoff thought very highly of MJ and believed in his talent...MJ appreciated Yetnikoff's support of his career and showed it by bringing Yetnikoff onstage at the 1984 Grammys(where Michael won 8 Awards) and having him present at the Guiness Book ceremony that proclaimed Thriller the best selling album of all time....

This was, of course, a huge. feather in Yetnikoff's hat...he bragged that after appearing onstage with MJ at the Grammys, he requested and received a $2M raise...

It also didn't hurt MJ that after firing Ron Weisner and Freddy DeMann as his managers--he picked Epic Records promotions man, Frank DiLeo, as his new manager...DiLeo was close with Yetnikoff...

During these years, MJ could write his own ticket at CBS...whatever he wanted, he got...

Things changed in 1988, when Sony bought CBS Records...Yetnikoff retired in 1990 and named Tommy Mottola his successor....

In 1989, before becoming chief of Sony, Mottola signed 19 year old singer Mariah Carey to Sony...Mottola threw all the company's power into promoting the gifted young singer...Mottola would serve as Carey's Svengali--personally supervising every aspect of her career...much the same way Berry Gordy had done with Diana Ross at Motown...

mirroring Gordy and Ross, perhaps unsuprisingly, a romance developed btwn the Mottola and Carey...they would be wed in 1993...

During those years, MJ would release his last scandal free album, Dangerous, in late 1991...
Dangerous would go on to be a huge seller, with 2 monster singles out of the gate(Black Or White, Remember The Time)

In an effort to derail his public image as a bizarre recluse, MJ agreed to do a prime time television interview with Oprah Winfrey from his Neverland Ranch home...

In the 1993 interview, Michael came off as intelligent, humble, funny, and still immensely talented...he gained public sympathy by revealing that he was abused as a child by his father Joseph--but he was making strides to forgive and mend the relationship...he explained that the dramatic change in his skin color was the result of a skin disease(later identified as vitiligo) and declared that he was proud to be a Black man and that the loss of his color makes him sad...and the allegations that he doesn't want to be Black hurt him...he cleverly turned the point around on white people "who sit out in the sun...to become darker...to become something other that what THEY are"...MJ declined to reveal if he was a virgin or not and lied abt the extent of his plastic surgery("I've had two...")...

Even if he was not completely forthright, the interview worked...the ratings broke records and Dangerous surged back to the top of the charts...

Shortly after this victory, 13 year old Jordan Chandler accused MJ of child molestation...Santa Barbara prosecutor Thomas Sneddon jumped on the case with unusual zeal, applying full pressure to MJ with his investigation...

MJ's surge in popularity was completely scrapped by the scandal...it ultimately ended with a cash settlement to the accuser, who subsequently refused to cooperate with Sneddon's vicious investigation(which included ransacking Michael's homes and the home of his parents and subjecting MJ to a dehumanizing strip search and photo session)...

Meanwhile, Sony continued to pump out Carey product at an astounding pace...it could be said that with her husband as label boss, Carey replaced MJ as the top priority at Sony....

after putting the scandal behind him, MJ wanted to continue his career...he also needed to vent...MJ was set to release a greatest hits album with a few new songs in 1990...but rejuvenated by the grooves of producer Teddy Riley, inspiration struck and MJ turned the project into the Dangerous album...he decided to go ahead with the greatest hits package he had beem promising but once he got in the studio inspiration struck again and a full new album was recorded...he decided to make it a 2 disc set--one disc of hits, and one disc of new material...

the late 80's and early 90's were a time of sea change in the music industry....uncompromising forms of underground music seized the mainstream in the form of hip-hop and grunge...vinyl and cassette faded away as CDs became the primary media of recorded music...many wondered if there was still a place for the mega popstars of the 80's in this new landscape...

Many also wondered if MJ mattered anymore...he represented the excess of the 80's and his recent scandal had permanently tarnished his image in the public eye...

Sony tread carefully and released HIStory in 1995...a brilliant, yet defiantly angry work, the album met an uncertain public...critics complained that MJ's music was too dark and too angry...the public still gave in, giving the album hits like Scream, You Are Not Alone, and Stranger In Moscow...HIStory sold well, but still slightly less than Dangerous...

One could reason that Mottola saw his young bride as the future and MJ as the past...still, the success of History meant that MJ was able to move on with his career and his life to an extent...
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Reply #66 posted 03/02/10 6:27pm

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Part 2

in that same year, Sony merged their publishing arm with MJ's ATV/Northern catalogue...making Michael richer by $90M and making him 50% owner in the new entity, Sony/ATV...

since the scandal, rumors had been running rampant that MJ was strapped for cash...perhaps driven by his settlement with Jordan Chandler and his recent divorce from Lisa Marie Presley...when news of a deal between Sony and MJ broke, the news first reported it as MJ selling ATV/Northern to Sony for much-needed cash...when the story was corrected, MJ described as not an act of desperation but as "just good business..."

Sony's motives for the merger were unclear at the time but their handling of MJ's career at the time denoted a change in the company's attitude towards him...

In 1997, after completing the History tour and still feeling creative, MJ returned to the studio more quickly than usual...he completed Blood On The Dancefloor, a hybrid EP and remix album containing 5 new songs...a video was shot for the title track...critics who listened to the new songs objectively opined that the work was cutting edge and daring and a testament to MJ's artistry and creativity...

Zero promotion was done for the project by Sony and quickly the album disappeared in the US...however, the album caught on abroad and sold 4M total making it the best selling remix album of all time...something was amiss...

also in 1997, MJ welcomed his first child named Prince Michael Jackson, Jr.(after himself and his maternal grandfather, Prince Albert Scruse)--a product of an arrangment between MJ and his dermatologist's nurse and longtime friend Debbie Rowe...the next year, another child was born of the same union...MJ wed Rowe shortly before Prince's birth to placate his deeply religious mother Katherine...

Mariah Carey would divorce Tommy Mottola in 1998.

MJ threw himself into fatherhood full tilt...lavishing his full attention on raising his children...MJ had long threatened to quit touring...the process drained him emotionally as well as physically...its been confirmed that he would not eat or rest properly when preapring for a tour, taking a toll on his health(he was hospitalized in 1990 for these reasons), causing dehydration related poblems and in 1996, causing him to be hospitalized while preparing for HBO concert...

The long 1978-79 Destiny Tour was exhausting and difficult...dating as far back as The Jacksons 1981 Triumph Tour, he has vowed that that tour and each subsequent one would be his last...for any artist--even under the best conditions, touring is a grueling process...he was an unwilling participant in the 1984 Victory tour with his brothers because he was outvoted....his anger at being forced to tour by his family and the fiasco that the organization of the tour became spurred him to finally quit the family group, a decision that he'd been struggling with since Off The Wall...his 1988 Bad tour would be his first solo tour and he publicly declared it his last, even though he would tour twice more for Dangerous and History..
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Reply #67 posted 03/02/10 6:28pm

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Part 3

1998 marked 30 years for MJ as professional entertainer, and 35 years onstage...MJ was 40 years old...having accomplished all there is to do as a recording artist and being a new father to 2 infants, it certanly isn't a stretch of the imagination that MJ may have been eyeing retirement...the years onstage, the public scrutiny, the constant lawsuits(frivolous and otherwise) and media cruelty had definitely taken their toll...

but it was true that MJ was having cashflow problems...his expenses not only included his lifestyle but his staff, his numerous business ventures, and supporting various relatives and friends(it was revealed in court documents that Debbie Rowe at one time was receiving 1.5M per MONTH)...

he used his ownership in Sony/ATV as collateral for a $200M loan--a decision that would haunt him for the rest of his days...

at one time, it seemed Sony's interest in getting into business with MJ was motivated purely by enterprise...but the truth soon became clear...Sony no longer considered MJ a priority as an artist...the fact that he had made the company billions meant nothing to Mottola and the new gatekeepers at Sony Music USA...the respect that existed between MJ and former label head Yetnikoff was discarded with the change in leadership at the label...MJ fired Frank DiLeo in 1989 after the Bad tour...DiLeo vacated his post with CBS Records to become MJ's manager and had no juice with the new Sony configuration of the company(MJ rehired DiLeo recently)....

soon after the merger, Sony got tired of waiting for MJ's finances to crumble and began pushing him to sell his half of Sony/ATV...the pressure to sell never relented...it became clear that if MJ failed as a recording artist it would force him to sell his half of the company to survive...Sony decided to play with fate starting with Blood On The Dancefloor...MJ never even considered selling his half of Sony/ATV...

MJ restructured his deal with Sony in 1990...the way he understood it, the ownership of his masters would revert back to him in 2000...at that point, he could release and market those recordings anyway he liked without having to share any of the profit with Sony...at least that's how it was supposed to be...

but the contract had much fine print regarding the masters reverting back...

in order to get the masters, MJ was required to turn in a new CD every cpl of years, and with each failure to do so more years were added to the wait time for ownership of the masters to revert back to him...also required were soundtracks and a Christmas album with same time penalty applied to them as well...four more albums were left on the contract...

in all, the contract was set up so that MJ would NEVER get his masters...Mottola and his cohorts told MJ that they were in control and the last laugh would be theirs...

if MJ was eyeing retirement, those masters would have definitely created a new revenue stream for him to work with if he decided to stop performing...

when Mike found out abt this, he launched an investigation...he found that one of the lawyers representing him was also working for Sony on the sly and snuck the bogus clauses into the contract...the obvious conflict of interest allowed Mike to walk owing Sony one more studio album, a greatest hits album, and box set...the ball was back in Mike's court...

MJ told Mottola that after Invincible that he and Sony could suck it--he was outta there...one could gather that Invincible was one last cash grab before MJ called it a day on his career...

as MJ got to work on Invincible, it was clear that his heart was not in the project...instead of writing and producing most of the music like he normally did, he left the grunt work to a group of producers and writers resulting in the very long writer and producer credits on Invincible...instead of working day and night(no pun intended)like he normally did on an album, he would leave the studio at the drop of a hat...

if he got a phone call, he would be gone for the day...business meeting--gone for the day...any distraction would mean the end of that day's session...

the final product is not a bad album at all minus his few now trademark sacchrine pop songs, but the whole lacks the stamp of MJ's artistic trademark...

what he did was made an album with a group of surefire singles that would carry the album with the right promotion...by 2001, pop music was entering a stagnant period and with the Chandler scandal far behind, music fans realized that a musical talent like MJ's was still needed...there were very few, if any innovators who could energize the music scene like MJ...the new breed of artists were mostly cardboard cutouts foisting disposable music on the masses...the torch was still not ready to be passed...there was anticipation for the new MJ record...

Mottola decided he had one last trump card--pull all promotion for Invincible...
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Reply #68 posted 03/02/10 6:29pm

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Part 4

Sony refused to issue the high energy comeback track Unbreakable as the first single or film the video he had planned, insisting on the laid back album cut You Rock My World being released as the lead off...

Sony harassed MJ abt funding the video for Rock to the point where MJ seemed "over it" to the film crew...the video had been shooting for days before he showed up on set...

Sony also refused to give MJ a decent video budget for Cry, another forced single choice by Sony...frustrated and angry, he refused to appear in the clip...

on the streets, Butterflies was getting major airplay and incredible buzz...Sony refused to fund a video or even an official single release...

an MJ project with no label backing seemed strange from the outside looking in...Sony had to explain themselves and took the opportunity to attack....they announced that recording the album was a $30M affair and they simply could not afford to put anymore money into the project...by announcing such a number to the public made MJ look like a spoiled and wasteful artist...

to the non industry public, $30M was a huge number, but in reality, recording an MJ record had always been a costly affair and each time out the label recouped their costs quickly--and Invincible was no different...Sony made a profit on the album anyway...

even though Invincible was successfully sabatoged by Sony, the album still racked up 10M in worldwide sales...

Tommy Mottola stepped down as head of Sony Music in 2003.

of course, MJ was ready to get back in the ring and salvage his career, but unfortunately, he agreed to let a conniving journalist film a documentary called Living With Michael Jackson...

the fallout from the documentary brought about new child molestation allegations against MJ...

he fought the allegations in court and was acquitted of all charges...but the damage was done...

it seemed that MJ might have been finished...

Then...Michael Jackson decided to end his career with a bang...

in early 2009, a series of 10 final MJ concerts titled This Is It("I mean it...this is IT...")in London were announced...the overwhelming response grew the total number of shows to 50...all sold out very quickly...

the public had spoken...they didn't care abt the accusations, the bad press, the plastic surgery, or the nasty fight with Sony....the people had crowned him King and they anxiously awaited his return...

Michael Jackson would not live to conclude his career the way he had planned...
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Reply #69 posted 03/02/10 6:43pm

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Bill Bolltrell Discusses Black or White

http://www.soundonsound.c...tracks.htm

Recording Dangerous with Teddy Riley

http://www.musicradar.com...ley-211776




yea, seeingvoices, I WILL be using these as part of my essay for Dangerous lol
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Reply #70 posted 03/02/10 7:06pm

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bboy87 said:

Bill Bolltrell Discusses Black or White

http://www.soundonsound.c...tracks.htm

Recording Dangerous with Teddy Riley

http://www.musicradar.com...ley-211776




yea, seeingvoices, I WILL be using these as part of my essay for Dangerous lol


I enjoyed the links and the 4 parts of the article ....hug

I can't wait for the essays of Dangerous and History excited
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #71 posted 03/02/10 9:34pm

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bboy87 said:


actually, Jackie, Randy, and Jermaine moved out when they were all around 19 but then moved back in after they divorced.

I think Jackie is perfectly fine. Hes a doll and can do no wrong in my eyes, so they musta done him right, or he musta got away quick, because none of his kids live there, do they? He doesnt live there, does he? Nuff said.

But Jermaine, Andy,and LaToya lingered with their mamma for what seemed like 4ever. And look at them.

Change of topic: U still havent provided any proof that Jermaine is employed, or has EVER been employed.

You say "Jermaine does Jermaine." What is that? Can u tell me wut he is currently doin to provide for his family? Wut does Randall do to feed his kids? U wanna defend him, but u arent providin any info. Wut do these ppl doto make MONEY? I already showed u y it is certain they make nothin from royalties. So show me. Can u make a list of wut the Jacksons r employed as or wut their steady job is? Thnks.


we cant say what you do to provide for your family either,do that mean you do nothing to earn a living?
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Reply #72 posted 03/02/10 9:49pm

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Reply #73 posted 03/02/10 10:04pm

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TonyVanDam said:



In 1984, Michael (age 25) was THE youngest recording artist to ever receive the AMA of Merit. Does anyone know if this record still stands as of 2010?

yes! biggrin
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Reply #74 posted 03/02/10 10:08pm

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It's OPEN! smile

www.michael-jackson-on-stage.com

I hope you guys like the banners on the site. I made them smile


From Chris Cadman
This will be the first pictorial timeline website on Michael Jackson's career yet, covering his tours and TV appearances, In addition to his films. Just as we discuss here on the vault, We'll be trying to use rare clips for his performances and it some cases will list rumoured shows, specials and films. Everyone's welcome to send anything they think will help the site. In some cases I'll use photos, where news is mininmal, but im hoping to avoid to many, pictures from magazines would be better.


This past 3 weeks as seen a lot of time and effort go in to it. With this in mind I must thank Christina for all her hard work, at a time when she's under severe pressure. I can't thank her enough. Thanks also for all the designed pages you see from Jay, whose dedication and patience as been priceless. Thanks to both of you.

There are planned updates this weekend for The Bad and History Tours, before I take a break for a couple of weeks.

Chris Cadman
March 2010

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Reply #75 posted 03/02/10 10:19pm

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Reply #76 posted 03/02/10 10:35pm

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Reply #77 posted 03/02/10 11:04pm

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I can't believe you people don't believe this article when Child Services were AT the home, found the gun, confiscated it and are going back tonight.

That gun kills grown men, imagine if it'd been used on poor Blanket.

Jaafar clearly has some serious issues that need to be sorted out.
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Reply #78 posted 03/02/10 11:07pm

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purplesweat said:

I can't believe you people don't believe this article when Child Services were AT the home, found the gun, confiscated it and are going back tonight.

That gun kills grown men, imagine if it'd been used on poor Blanket.

Jaafar clearly has some serious issues that need to be sorted out.

It was a stun gun and there are many stories going around so we gotta find out what REALLY happened

Jaffar is 13 going on 14 and kids that age always make stupid mistakes. I don't think he was gonna try to hurt his little cousin
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Reply #79 posted 03/03/10 1:34am

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I read the post above about Sony not releasing Unbreakable. This must be outside the USA because inside the USA radio stations, especially r&b and hip hop weren't even feeling Unbeakable. I live in LA and i remember the 1st time Unbreakable was played on radio and that was on PJ Butta's BOOTLEGS at midnight and he was like it's aiiiight and the callers were the same. It's ok.

Next Power 106 in LA Hosted by Big Boy, 100.3 Hosted by Steve Harvey played the entire albums. Nobody mentioned Unbreakable if the track was that hot. The same with urban stations in Atlanta, Chicago and New york. Majority were like Butterfies, Break Of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait are off da chain.

Butterflies was released after YRMW because it was demanded by Urban radio. Unbreakable was not demanded because not mnay were feelin the track with the exception of die hard fans. Majority of ppl in the USA prefer MJ with the smooth vocal style. Not singing LOUD about you cant touch me cause im unbreakable.
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Reply #80 posted 03/03/10 1:51am

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I read the post above about Sony not releasing Unbreakable. This must be outside the USA because inside the USA radio stations, especially r&b and hip hop weren't even feeling Unbeakable. I live in LA and i remember the 1st time Unbreakable was played on radio and that was on PJ Butta's BOOTLEGS at midnight and he was like it's aiiiight and the callers were the same. It's ok.

Next Power 106 in LA Hosted by Big Boy, 100.3 Hosted by Steve Harvey played the entire albums. Nobody mentioned Unbreakable if the track was that hot. The same with urban stations in Atlanta, Chicago and New york. Majority were like Butterfies, Break Of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait are off da chain.

Butterflies was released after YRMW because it was demanded by Urban radio. Unbreakable was not demanded because not mnay were feelin the track with the exception of die hard fans. Majority of ppl in the USA prefer MJ with the smooth vocal style. Not singing LOUD about you cant touch me cause im unbreakable.


I think Unbreakable would've been a better lead single choice, though

I remember when the album came out and the standout tracks to me were Butterflies, Don't Walk Away, Whatever Happens, Unbreakable, and Break Of Dawn. I saw some people were really feeling 2000 Watts too
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Reply #81 posted 03/03/10 2:26am

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Jackson Kids Tried Stunning Blanket

Multiple sources are telling TMZ the stun gun that Jermaine Jackson's 13-year-old son purchased was actually used by the children in the house ... and Michael Jackson's son, Blanket was an intended target.


As we first reported, Jermaine's 13-year-old son Jaafar ordered the stun gun online. Randy Jackson told TMZ the gun was confiscated by security when it was delivered three weeks ago and locked up by Katherine Jackson. But we've learned and confirmed ... children at the Jackson home were playing with the gun last week.

Our sources say the kids were using the gun on the second floor of the house. Security guards on the property were perplexed because they couldn't figure out where the noise was coming from ... nor could they identify the sound.

Late last week, we're told one of the security guards went upstairs and "stopped Jermaine's kids from stunning Blanket." The guard confiscated the gun.

As we first reported, the L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services went to the Jackson family home in Encino last night, at around 10:30. The two social workers interviewed Katherine and several of the kids and confiscated Jaafar's stun gun.

But our sources say the kids have a second stun gun that DCFS did not recover and it is somewhere on the property.

DCFS is going back to the house today for further investigation. Our sources say DCFS considers this "a very serious situation."


It's getting ridiculous.

The other day we learnt Alejandra was after MJ's kids. Now we learn Jafaar wanted to stun Blanket.

Oh, the patience a MJ fans must have in order to put up with this mess.
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Reply #82 posted 03/03/10 2:44am

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MOL said:

sag10 said:

Jackson Kids Tried Stunning Blanket

Multiple sources are telling TMZ the stun gun that Jermaine Jackson's 13-year-old son purchased was actually used by the children in the house ... and Michael Jackson's son, Blanket was an intended target.


As we first reported, Jermaine's 13-year-old son Jaafar ordered the stun gun online. Randy Jackson told TMZ the gun was confiscated by security when it was delivered three weeks ago and locked up by Katherine Jackson. But we've learned and confirmed ... children at the Jackson home were playing with the gun last week.

Our sources say the kids were using the gun on the second floor of the house. Security guards on the property were perplexed because they couldn't figure out where the noise was coming from ... nor could they identify the sound.

Late last week, we're told one of the security guards went upstairs and "stopped Jermaine's kids from stunning Blanket." The guard confiscated the gun.

As we first reported, the L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services went to the Jackson family home in Encino last night, at around 10:30. The two social workers interviewed Katherine and several of the kids and confiscated Jaafar's stun gun.

But our sources say the kids have a second stun gun that DCFS did not recover and it is somewhere on the property.

DCFS is going back to the house today for further investigation. Our sources say DCFS considers this "a very serious situation."


It's getting ridiculous.

The other day we learnt Alejandra was after MJ's kids. Now we learn Jafaar wanted to stun Blanket.

Oh, the patience a MJ fans must have in order to put up with this mess.

.....and we've learned that Prince, Paris, and Blanket were NO WHERE NEAR the stun gun. Jaffar got it, tested it out in the bathroom, Katherine heard it and took it from him
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Reply #83 posted 03/03/10 2:46am

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Attorney: Jackson kids weren't exposed to stun gun
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY (AP) – 2 hours ago

LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson's children were never exposed to a mail-order stun gun recently delivered to the family's home, an attorney for the late singer's mother said Tuesday.

Child services workers are investigating the incident, but attorney Adam Streisand said the stun gun was confiscated before any harm was done. Streisand represents Jackson's mother, Katherine, who has custody of her son's three young children, Prince Michael, Paris and Prince Michael II, also known as Blanket.

Streisand said the weapon was ordered by the 13-year-old son of Jermaine Jackson, Jafar, and sent to the Jackson family home in the Encino neighborhood of Los Angeles. Jermaine Jackson's children also live in the home.

"Jafar opened the package in his bathroom and tested it on a piece of paper," Streisand said in a statement. He said security and Katherine Jackson heard the sound and confiscated the weapon immediately.

He said Michael Jackson's oldest son, Prince, saw the stun gun after it was taken by security.

"Blanket Jackson never saw or heard the Taser," Streisand said in the statement. "Neither did Paris Jackson. Prince saw the Taser in possession of security."

Streisand said child services workers have not provided him or Katherine Jackson with an update on the agency's inquiry. A phone message left for the agency was not immediately returned, but it doesn't usually comment on its cases.

"All of the kids are happy, healthy and wonderful, and that is Mrs. Jackson's only objective and concern," Streisand said.

Katherine Jackson has been caring for the children since their father's death June 25 at age 50. The children range in age from 8 to 13.

All attended a star-studded memorial held in July at the Staple Center. The eldest children, Prince Michael and Paris, also spoke during a segment at February's Grammy Awards where Michael Jackson was given a posthumous lifetime achievement award.

Their father was fiercely protective of his children's privacy and images, often covering their faces when they were in public.

Prince Michael and Paris are the children of Michael Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe, who was granted some visitation with them after the singer's death. The identity of Blanket's mother has never been revealed.

As part of an agreement between Rowe and Katherine Jackson, a child psychologist was required to structure visits and monitor the children. Katherine Jackson was initially granted more than $86,000 a month to pay for the family home and care for Michael Jackson's children, but that allowance was recently increased. The current amount has not been publicly disclosed.

A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has oversight of Katherine Jackson's guardianship of the children and has praised her in open court.

Streisand said in an e-mail that he does not expect the stun gun incident to become a factor in the guardianship case. Meg Lodise, a court-appointed attorney representing the three youngsters' interests in their father's estate, did not return a phone message seeking comment.

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I really don't like that Blanket and his siblings are living with their cousins. A child that somehow sneaks and orders a weapon like that is liable to do anything, so who knows what Jaffar was thinking. Blanket, Prince, and Paris should not have to deal with that. Besides, why are all these children at Havenhurst anyway? Why can't Jermaine and Randy get their own houses and raise their own children? confused Mrs. Jackson must be TOTALLY stressed. neutral
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WaterInYourBath said:

I really don't like that Blanket and his siblings are living with their cousins. A child that somehow sneaks and orders a weapon like that is liable to do anything, so who knows what Jaffar was thinking. Blanket, Prince, and Paris should not have to deal with that. Besides, why are all these children at Havenhurst anyway? Why can't Jermaine and Randy get their own houses and raise their own children? confused Mrs. Jackson must be TOTALLY stressed. neutral

They've lived there all their lives, and I think their parents are involved in a custody battle so maybe Mrs. Jackson would prefer they live with her for the time being. This was a bad mistake on Jaffar's part but that is their cousin and from what we know, they've helped the kids cope with Michael's passing
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Reply #86 posted 03/03/10 4:10am

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I think Jackie is perfectly fine. Hes a doll and can do no wrong in my eyes, so they musta done him right, or he musta got away quick, because none of his kids live there, do they? He doesnt live there, does he? Nuff said.

But Jermaine, Andy,and LaToya lingered with their mamma for what seemed like 4ever. And look at them.

Change of topic: U still havent provided any proof that Jermaine is employed, or has EVER been employed.

You say "Jermaine does Jermaine." What is that? Can u tell me wut he is currently doin to provide for his family? Wut does Randall do to feed his kids? U wanna defend him, but u arent providin any info. Wut do these ppl doto make MONEY? I already showed u y it is certain they make nothin from royalties. So show me. Can u make a list of wut the Jacksons r employed as or wut their steady job is? Thnks.


we cant say what you do to provide for your family either,do that mean you do nothing to earn a living?

falloff

First of all, I'm only a kid. I'm a student in my 2nd year earning a bachelor's degreee in business law. I also work part time at a retirement home, and unlike other ppl, i DO pitch in to help my daddy pay the bills, dumbass! he's old and almost retired, and needs the help! i wish i was so lucky to have a millionaire brothers who would pay all the bills so i could be tyotally useless and impregnate women and go on shopping sprees!

Disgustin that u could even insunuate that i could be anythin like the piece of shit Claymaine. I've been outta my parents house since i was 11, and haven't lived steadily with them since! U damn well would never see me at fuckin 55 YO living with my mamma holing up my spawns and baby mammas in there, so u need to fall back with that bullshit.

i dont guve a fuck wut u do, but since u love the Jacksons so much- so tell me wut ur boys Jermaine and Randall r doin to feed their children. i'm waitin.
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Reply #87 posted 03/03/10 5:10am

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I can't believe you people don't believe this article when Child Services were AT the home, found the gun, confiscated it and are going back tonight.

That gun kills grown men, imagine if it'd been used on poor Blanket.

Jaafar clearly has some serious issues that need to be sorted out.

It was a stun gun and there are many stories going around so we gotta find out what REALLY happened

Jaffar is 13 going on 14 and kids that age always make stupid mistakes. I don't think he was gonna try to hurt his little cousin


Make stupid mistakes? How is stealing a credit card, ordering and paying for the weapon, managing to somehow get the parcel without family seeing then playing with it a stupid mistake? That's more calculating than I care to hear about a thirteen year old!

The FAMILY is trying to downplay it, Child Services visiting more than once(and someone calling them in the 1st place) suggests otherwise. Plus, the fact that there seems to be another gun AND Catherine stupidly decided to just lock it up instead of getting rid of it!
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purplesweat said:

bboy87 said:


It was a stun gun and there are many stories going around so we gotta find out what REALLY happened

Jaffar is 13 going on 14 and kids that age always make stupid mistakes. I don't think he was gonna try to hurt his little cousin


Make stupid mistakes? How is stealing a credit card, ordering and paying for the weapon, managing to somehow get the parcel without family seeing then playing with it a stupid mistake? That's more calculating than I care to hear about a thirteen year old!

The FAMILY is trying to downplay it, Child Services visiting more than once(and someone calling them in the 1st place) suggests otherwise. Plus, the fact that there seems to be another gun AND Catherine stupidly decided to just lock it up instead of getting rid of it!


Who said he stole it? Parents give their children credit cards too....
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Reply #89 posted 03/03/10 8:48am

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bboy87 said:

purplesweat said:



Make stupid mistakes? How is stealing a credit card, ordering and paying for the weapon, managing to somehow get the parcel without family seeing then playing with it a stupid mistake? That's more calculating than I care to hear about a thirteen year old!

The FAMILY is trying to downplay it, Child Services visiting more than once(and someone calling them in the 1st place) suggests otherwise. Plus, the fact that there seems to be another gun AND Catherine stupidly decided to just lock it up instead of getting rid of it!


Who said he stole it? Parents give their children credit cards too....

What´s a stun gun? Can you really hurt someone with it?

I am also not sure what to think about Jermaine´s kids living with their grandmother. I also think their parents should take care of them.
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