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Reply #450 posted 03/12/10 3:21pm

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



SO WHAT if I did negro! lol shxt looks better on me anyway! LMAO

and we're happy for you lol


We all know how hard it is to get on the cover of the 360 S Curl Waves box, and here you are gettin' your shot

Look out ya'll, Viintage is on the come up! evillol


lol you damn right! Wait til i get my S-Curl poppin! curl juice about to be drippin ALL DOWN THE SHOULDERS of that jacket!
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Reply #451 posted 03/12/10 3:22pm

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Question , Was Michael on good terms with Paul McCartney in his last years? I don't remember if they ever resolve their issue.
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Reply #452 posted 03/12/10 3:25pm

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Question , Was Michael on good terms with Paul McCartney in his last years? I don't remember if they ever resolve their issue.


Not that I know of. They stopped speaking around 85-86.
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Reply #453 posted 03/12/10 3:46pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

babybugz said:

Question , Was Michael on good terms with Paul McCartney in his last years? I don't remember if they ever resolve their issue.


Not that I know of. They stopped speaking around 85-86.

More like '87 or '88

They were still cool until Michael let Nike use Revolution
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Reply #454 posted 03/12/10 3:47pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:


and we're happy for you lol


We all know how hard it is to get on the cover of the 360 S Curl Waves box, and here you are gettin' your shot

Look out ya'll, Viintage is on the come up! evillol


lol you damn right! Wait til i get my S-Curl poppin! curl juice about to be drippin ALL DOWN THE SHOULDERS of that jacket!

Jermaine's gonna be at your doorstep asking for advice lol
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Reply #455 posted 03/12/10 3:47pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #456 posted 03/12/10 4:00pm

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Finally watching this interview

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Reply #457 posted 03/12/10 4:02pm

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bboy87 said:

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lol you damn right! Wait til i get my S-Curl poppin! curl juice about to be drippin ALL DOWN THE SHOULDERS of that jacket!

Jermaine's gonna be at your doorstep asking for advice lol


I'mma tell him "no my brotha, you gots to get ya own!"
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Reply #458 posted 03/12/10 4:13pm

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bboy87 said:


Jermaine's gonna be at your doorstep asking for advice lol


I'mma tell him "no my brotha, you gots to get ya own!"

Muthafucka's using old Miracle Whip when he runs out of grease lol
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Reply #459 posted 03/12/10 4:17pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:


Jermaine's gonna be at your doorstep asking for advice lol


I'mma tell him "no my brotha, you gots to get ya own!"


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Reply #460 posted 03/12/10 4:23pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



I'mma tell him "no my brotha, you gots to get ya own!"



The greatest commercial of all time! lol
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Reply #461 posted 03/12/10 4:25pm

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The greatest commercial of all time! lol


Exactly. lol
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Reply #462 posted 03/12/10 5:54pm

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woot!

And you know Motown is gonna milk the material they have for everything it's worth lol


and thank heavens for that! I want to see all they are willing to share. nod
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Reply #463 posted 03/12/10 6:57pm

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And you know Motown is gonna milk the material they have for everything it's worth lol


and thank heavens for that! I want to see all they are willing to share. nod


Least Motown's got some cool shit in the vaults lol the other cool shit is in Michael's vaults.
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Reply #464 posted 03/12/10 7:52pm

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and thank heavens for that! I want to see all they are willing to share. nod


Least Motown's got some cool shit in the vaults lol the other cool shit is in Michael's vaults.


I just hope Sony don't get there hands on the unreleased material. I read an article that said that both Univeral,and Sony are in the running with there bids. If Sony gets them,we will be seeing alot of compliation cd's with only a few new songs added. If Warner or Universal get them we will get cd's of nothing but new unreleased material,new label means the fans will get only new songs as the rights of the old songs catalogue of Michael are still with Epic / Sony.
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Reply #465 posted 03/12/10 9:11pm

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How long before Sony/Epic lose the rights to MJ's back catalog? 500 years? razz
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Reply #466 posted 03/12/10 10:55pm

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Candid Mike going through aiports in 2007




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"If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with" - Michael Jackson
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Reply #467 posted 03/13/10 12:11am

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Candid Mike going through aiports in 2007




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"I love Japan!" lol Gotta love him. Thanks so much for posting these. Bring tears to my eyes.

Look at his hands.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #468 posted 03/13/10 2:21am

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Vanilli said:

How long before Sony/Epic lose the rights to MJ's back catalog? 500 years? razz

If I read right, they only have barely 2 years left
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Reply #469 posted 03/13/10 3:52am

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bboy87 said:

Vanilli said:

How long before Sony/Epic lose the rights to MJ's back catalog? 500 years? razz

If I read right, they only have barely 2 years left


Agree. From what I understand MJ could have owned his masters earlier if he had released more albums. A delay in each album pushed back the time when the ownership of the masters would be transferred.

I guess now the masters will be transferred to the MJ estate in late 2011.

Of course, you can be guaranteed that Sony will release a new album and possibly expanded editions of past albums prior to that hand over to maximise their return.

Swa
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Reply #470 posted 03/13/10 8:37am

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He´s just a cutie. I´ve known this picture, but I´ve always got to see just the headshot. This is the first time I see the full picture.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #471 posted 03/13/10 8:59am

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Swa said:

bboy87 said:


If I read right, they only have barely 2 years left


Agree. From what I understand MJ could have owned his masters earlier if he had released more albums. A delay in each album pushed back the time when the ownership of the masters would be transferred.

I guess now the masters will be transferred to the MJ estate in late 2011.

Of course, you can be guaranteed that Sony will release a new album and possibly expanded editions of past albums prior to that hand over to maximise their return.

Swa

I was thinking the same, considering he was a free agent from Sony.
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Reply #472 posted 03/13/10 9:07am

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Question , Was Michael on good terms with Paul McCartney in his last years? I don't remember if they ever resolve their issue.

I saw a write up awhile back, just surfing the net, and it was around the time he was in London, announcing his "This Is It" tour, he tried to look Paul up. I don't know how true that is.
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Reply #473 posted 03/13/10 9:54am

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Least Motown's got some cool shit in the vaults lol the other cool shit is in Michael's vaults.


I just hope Sony don't get there hands on the unreleased material. I read an article that said that both Univeral,and Sony are in the running with there bids. If Sony gets them,we will be seeing alot of compliation cd's with only a few new songs added. If Warner or Universal get them we will get cd's of nothing but new unreleased material,new label means the fans will get only new songs as the rights of the old songs catalogue of Michael are still with Epic / Sony.



Yo...which article is this...Do you have a link?
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Reply #474 posted 03/13/10 12:13pm

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #475 posted 03/13/10 12:15pm

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jul/16/michael-jackson-material

No new Michael Jackson material until 2012?
Sean Michaels guardian.co.uk,
Thursday 16 July 2009 10.16 BST


Contractual obligations may prevent the King of Pop's 150 unreleased songs from being issued for another two years

Forget the rush to issue unreleased Michael Jackson material – according to a report this week, we may not hear any new songs until 2012.

According to BusinessWeek, Jackson was locked into a contract with Sony Music until the end of 2011. Though the singer completed his obligations to the label with the release of 2001's Invincible album, any music released before 2012 would still allegedly be owned by Sony. In 2012, however, the master recordings of Jackson's entire Sony catalogue will revert to his estate.

After Jackson's death, the music industry is in a rush to get its hands on a reported 150 unreleased songs. Sony is particularly keen, seeing as it appears to own the rights at present. But this contract may be the thing that delays posthumous Jackson releases, as the singer's executors try to maximize profits from the unreleased catalogue.

Jackson's longtime lawyer, John Branca, is one of the two "special administrators" of the King of Pop's estate. An old hand of the music industry, Branca is expected to try to postpone any Jackson releases until the expiry of the Sony contract, so that he can engineer a bidding war among labels. Jackson's estate could also issue the music on their own independent imprint.

There would be many release options, particularly given the rumoured variety of Jackson's projects. Besides a comeback pop album with Will.I.Am and an unfinished classical album, there are reportedly songs from Jackson's Motown days in the early 70s. If Sony does not release this music, Universal (which owns Motown) would certainly be interested. The same is true for Warner, which administers the publishing rights to most of Jackson's songs.

The winning label in a bidding war would reap huge rewards. In the United States, 1.1m Michael Jackson albums were sold last week.
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Reply #476 posted 03/13/10 12:16pm

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Jackson’s Executor, Sony Discuss Use of 100 Unreleased Songs
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By Brett Pulley

July 23 (Bloomberg) -- Michael Jackson’s executors are in talks with Sony Corp. to determine the ownership of about 100 unreleased songs and how they can be marketed.

The tracks are leftovers from the albums Jackson recorded for Sony, according to Rob Wiesenthal, chief financial officer of the Tokyo-based company’s U.S. operations. Most are owned by the late singer’s estate or Sony, he said.

“It will get worked out,” Wiesenthal said yesterday in an interview at a media conference in Pasadena, California, sponsored by Fortune magazine. “It will take time.”

Wiesenthal said he met yesterday with John McClain, a former music executive and friend and manager of the late singer, who died on June 25 in Los Angeles. McClain, the former head of urban music at DreamWorks, was named co-executor of the singer’s estate. The other, John Branca, was Jackson’s lawyer for much of the artist’s solo career.

Most of Jackson’s top-selling albums, such as “Off the Wall,” and “Thriller,” were recorded during his years with Epic, a Sony label. The master recordings, which encompass everything recorded while making the albums, are controlled by Sony, Wiesenthal said. Full ownership of the masters will eventually revert to Jackson’s estate, he said.

McClain declined to comment, according to spokesman Jim Bates of Sitrick & Co.

When Jackson recorded the 2001 release “Invincible,” he and Sony spent more $35 million to create tracks, Wiesenthal said. The majority didn’t make it onto the album, he said. There are also many unreleased tracks from other albums.

Sorting Through Songs

The focus is on sorting through everything the artist has recorded and figuring out who has an ownership interest in each recording. Some producers, for example, may claim that they have a stake in the tracks, Wiesenthal said.

Since Jackson’s death, there have been inquiries from companies interested in purchasing the singer’s stake in Sony/ATV, the music publishing company jointly owned with Sony, Wiesenthal said.

“They’re inquiring,” Wiesenthal said. “But it’s not for sale.”

Branca, in an e-mail this week, said the estate’s stake in Sony/ATV, which owns Beatles and Bob Dylan songs, “is not for sale.” According to Wiesenthal, the executors must first assess tax liabilities before they can consider selling any assets.

Sony’s U.S. traded shares gained 50 cents to $25.20 at 1:35 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. They had advanced 13 percent this year before today.

To contact the reporter on this story: Brett Pulley in Los Angeles at bpulley@bloomberg.net

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Reply #477 posted 03/13/10 12:37pm

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Love this picture and the outfit looks like something that lame-o designer would have made for "This Is It." So glad Michael never took the stage wearing some of those tacky ugly costumes. He looked better in his bright red rehearsal pants and Ed Hardy clothes then those ugly over-done tacky outfits. Ick. Who picked him to team up with his traditional designers? Was that Michael's choice? Really?
At least old school designers from the 80s and 90s could make MJ look iconic. This new stuff was too over the top IMO.
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Reply #478 posted 03/13/10 12:40pm

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Reply #479 posted 03/13/10 12:41pm

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Love this picture and the outfit looks like something that lame-o designer would have made for "This Is It." So glad Michael never took the stage wearing some of those tacky ugly costumes. He looked better in his bright red rehearsal pants and Ed Hardy clothes then those ugly over-done tacky outfits. Ick. Who picked him to team up with his traditional designers? Was that Michael's choice? Really?
At least old school designers from the 80s and 90s could make MJ look iconic. This new stuff was too over the top IMO.

I agree. I hated the outfits for This Is It. I love Mike in plain simple clothes. He looked the sexiest in that blact short-sleeved T-shirt and black pants as he was dancing the "Ghost" routine to 2Bad in the gym in that Dancing Machine part.
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