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Printablemozfonky said: dag said: Me too. I am extremely shy about this as well, but that doesn´t mean that you´ve never had sex. Oh sure, I know he had sex, that's not the point, just saying it was very low key to go along with his persona. I also think that, unfortunately, in the eighties, a hyper-masculine black artist would never have been let through, just the way it was. Whether Mike was conscious of that or not I don't know. My point is, when you have sort of that feminine aura, no one knows how to accurately read it, as I was saying, it's just not those rigid roles we're stuck with. In the old days, a man my age would almost surely be thought of as gay if he weren't married at my age, and when people find out my biggest and only true vice is women they are always shocked. I'm a freak, I love being a freak, I love women and life's too short not to have fun. I'm sure Mike had his too. Sad thing also is that it is almost unthinkable to say in the public that you find him sexy. You should be liking Brad Pitts, George Cloonies and other boring, allegedly handsome men. You´re very weird if you say they do nothing for you. And it´s sad that you are thought of as being weird if you do not flash around your sexuality the way it is fashionable nowadays (just look at all the videos) and as being probably asexual or you are believed to be hiding some shameful sexual orientation of yours like with Mike when people loved to believe he must have been a paedophile just because he obviously was not acting "normal" or not showing off publicly his interest in women. [Edited 3/9/10 12:23pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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If it's true, I'm glad he got his groove on in the last few years and they weren't as lonely as I expected.
I hope those chicks write a book or something and go into great DETAIL about it all  And when I say detail, I mean detail like my girls and I get into.. .how long, how thick, rhythm, sounds ,smells, can he make you squirt?  What can I say? I'm very curious. | |
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To be honest I'm still kinda baffled that they would wanna do this, I don't know, maybe they're only doing it because MJ probably told them not to until he died but who knows?  | |
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Timmy84 said: To be honest I'm still kinda baffled that they would wanna do this, I don't know, maybe they're only doing it because MJ probably told them not to until he died but who knows?
Well, maybe they truly liked him and of course money talks. Every one who had more than a passing relationship with Elvis came out with a book. Some were good people others were crooks, but eventually they all made a buck off their "friendship". | |
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MyMyMy said: If it's true, I'm glad he got his groove on in the last few years and they weren't as lonely as I expected.
I hope those chicks write a book or something and go into great DETAIL about it all And when I say detail, I mean detail like my girls and I get into.. .how long, how thick, rhythm, sounds ,smells, can he make you squirt? What can I say? I'm very curious.Yeah. See, I always felt like this: even if he was only half as wild in bed as he was on stage, damn.... [Edited 3/9/10 13:37pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: Vanilli said: dag, I guess I see what you are saying. It is still weird for me to think of MJ like that. I guess for me, so much of MJ is tied into him being my childhood hero, ala Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, people like that. I drew pictures of the cover of Dangerous as a kid, and even made it into a person "Dangerous-Man" whose real identity was MJ. Then when I saw Moonwalker, it was like, "Okay this guy REALLY is a hero! He can turn into a robot! A car! This is it!" I loved his music, but he also had that coolness factor that like Batman and Spider-Man had. Here was my blog about his death from back in early October. I didn't want to write about MJ sooner then that or it would have turned into just utter sadness. By October (before "This Is It" came out, thank G-D, I was able to process the loss a bit.) It kinda relates to this topic, and it relates to MJ in general. I'd love thoughts. The Deaths of Spider-Man and Michael Jackson "The Death of Spider-Man" was filmed on May 23rd, 2009. It was a video shoot like the other Influence Films video shoots of the past. It was a fun experience with friends and captivating to watch one of my favorite childhood heroes come to life: Spider-Man. Once "The Death of Spider-Man" was filmed, I put the footage away and planned to edit it in the middle of June and have it released by August. Before June 25, 2009, besides my pet fish and a few distant relatives, I didn't have that much experience with death. Then on June 25, 2009, one of my favorite childhood heroes died: Michael Jackson. I will never forget where I was when I heard the news. I was watching TV, surfing the Internet and preparing to leave my home. Then I heard that Michael Jackson was rushed to the hospital. From that point until I heard the King of Pop had passed away, I was glued to the TV and Internet. My plans of leaving for the day were suddenly changed. I wanted to cry when I first saw on the TV that he had died, but I couldn't. I was just frozen. In the next few days and weeks, I remained the same way. I couldn't believe it. When I was a kid, I had posters of four people on my walls: Batman, the Flash, Spider-Man and Michael Jackson. To say Michael Jackson was important in my world, then and now, would be an understatement. In August, I finally began editing the footage from, "The Death of Spider-Man." At first it was literally hard to watch. I couldn't take my mind off Michael Jackson's death. The footage of Spider-Man falling to the ground was the most difficult part to watch and edit. Around that same time, I was reading the re-released edition of J. Randy Taraborrelli's Michael Jackson biography: "Michael Jackson: The Magic, The Madness, The Whole Story." J. Randy Taraborrelli is my favorite author and his new edition of the book was a beautiful tribute to the complex life Michael Jackson lived. Reading Taraborrelli's words and editing "The Death of Spider-Man" are all I can remember doing in August and September. As I write this blog tonight, those two things along with talking to some friends, helped me take my mind off the huge loss I was feeling. I suppose one of the things that made the loss so tough was that childhood heroes aren't supposed to die. Michael Jackson wasn't supposed to die. Except Michael Jackson did die. Unlike Batman, the Flash, and Spider-Man, Michael Jackson was both my childhood hero and a REAL human being. I suppose somewhere along the way that fact got lost on me. I dedicated the finished project to Michael Jackson's memory, and while I'm sure his legacy will live on, it will never be quite the same as knowing he is alive. Childhood heroes aren't supposed die. Hence why in "The Death of Spider-Man," Spider-Man didn't REALLY die. By the time I finished editing, "The Death of Spider-Man," complete with Mike Vaughn's amazing voice cameo, I had also finished re-reading, "Michael Jackson: The Magic, The Madness, The Whole Story." After doing both of those things, it felt like I had somehow (without realizing it) grieved the loss of one of my childhood heroes. Maybe it was knowing that in, "The Death of Spider-Man," Spider-Man lived. Maybe it was feeling like re-reading Taraborrelli's biography made Michael Jackson live on. However, the pain wasn't as present as it was a few months ago. While I don't think any of Michael Jackson's biggest fans will ever "get over" his loss, I think certain things will make it easier to cope. For me, those things made it easier. While according to some reports Michael Jackson's record sales after his death broke several records, there is only one record (for me) that stands out, that his death broke. He was the first and only one of my childhood heroes to die. However, the same way throughout the world Batman, the Flash and Spider-Man live forever inside comic books and films, Michael Jackson will live forever all over the world inside his music and short-films. With that being said, the same way, the last shot of "The Death of Spider-Man" shows Spider-Man stepping into the shot and emerging to be alive and well, I keep wishing Michael Jackson with his black loafer shoes and rhinestone covered socks would emerge once again to somehow still be alive and well. For months now, I kept waiting for the day to come when I would "get over" Michael Jackson's death. I'm starting to realize now that will probably never fully happen. I don't believe the death of a childhood hero, or the death of anyone important to a person, should be something that is "gotten over." Instead, the loss should be something that impacts you, changes you, and adds awareness and appreciation for what that person meant to you. The bottom line is I will never "get over" Michael Jackson's death, in the same way I would never get over the death of anyone else important to me. And that is okay. R.I.P. Michael Joseph Jackson August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009 My Hero. Forever. Nice essay, Vanilli. I guess, for us girls, it´s different. I am not sure if any girl ever dreamt of Superman, Spiderman and others cause I didn´t. None of those herous also had nothing to do with sex, I guess. And if you viewed him this way, then probably that sexual element was missing for Mike as well and especially if you´re a straight man, you won´t be even looking for it. But as a woman/girl who finds Michael handsome and sexy (and believe we do) watching him move the way he does, that sexual element will be included in your image of MIchael Jackson. You see him being shy in the interviews, but you also see him doing this. 
And which one of these images do you think we have seen more frequently. The shy MJ during interviews, or the wild guy onstage? Anyways, does anyone know where this is from? 
[Edited 3/9/10 11:56am] haha, I love that part of This is it! Hell Lisa Marie said he was a hottie in bed. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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Timmy84 said: To be honest I'm still kinda baffled that they would wanna do this, I don't know, maybe they're only doing it because MJ probably told them not to until he died but who knows?
I really think these guys want people to know what a great guy Michael was, is, will always be.  ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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sag10 said: Timmy84 said: To be honest I'm still kinda baffled that they would wanna do this, I don't know, maybe they're only doing it because MJ probably told them not to until he died but who knows?
I really think these guys want people to know what a great guy Michael was, is, will always be. That could be true. | |
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mozfonky said: Timmy84 said: To be honest I'm still kinda baffled that they would wanna do this, I don't know, maybe they're only doing it because MJ probably told them not to until he died but who knows?
Well, maybe they truly liked him and of course money talks. Every one who had more than a passing relationship with Elvis came out with a book. Some were good people others were crooks, but eventually they all made a buck off their "friendship". Yeah I remember reading about Elvis' ex-cronies doing that book about him. | |
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Timmy84 said: To be honest I'm still kinda baffled that they would wanna do this, I don't know, maybe they're only doing it because MJ probably told them not to until he died but who knows?
Do you or anyone remember this thread? It was a big debate over his sexuality: http://prince.org/msg/8/289410?&pg=10 | |
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Vanilli said: Did anyone else catch MJ's bodyguards on GMA?
You can watch the video here. Very fascinating. More of it will be on night-line tonight and even more on GMA tomorrow. VERY FASCINATING. http://www.mediatakeout.c...nside.html [Edited 3/9/10 10:06am] I felt it and suspect he wasn't gay  | |
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mozfonky said: angel345 said: Didn't the Tatiana girl write a book about their relationship  . I didn't get a chance to read it.I heard she had a book out but that it was yanked or censored out of existence. Poor lady, I think she was a waitress somewhere the last time I saw an interview, what a long fall. Then I heard and read that she was forced to say they've never had a relationship which I did find strange to me. | |
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According to an insider on MJCC, and I don’t know how reliable is this but anyway.
Michael Jackson’s new album to be released on late august Press release regarding the album news will be released on April or may A new song, The first single from MJ’s upcoming album to be released on June 25  MICHAEL JACKSON
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mozfonky said: That was a great interview with the guards, consistent with alot of other peoples observations. Don't know about Mike's heterosexual activity, he still seemed embarrassed about sex even in "This Is It", not in a bad way, just in a shy feminine way. I've said it before and I'll say it again, why do people have to force us into these rigid boxes, not all of us fit in them. I've freaked girls out with my shyness in my younger days, they were convinced I was mentally ill, gay or something else. We're not all suppossed to be the same. It's what I tell people when they say "oh I thought about you when I heard Michael died" one woman said, "I know you identify with him" I said "yeah, he was a freak just like me". I love my freakishness, I wish the world would have let mike do the same without cooking up all this mess.
Plus remember, the androgynist look was popular in the eightes, and white singers got away with it. When MJ or Prince sported that look, they were called out. So yes, I can see how people can be forced into a particular box in the name of assumption. | |
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I find it so funny when stories like this about Michael come out and the fans are like omg it can't be true. Michael was no angel don't fall for his peter pan jive and I mean this in the Nicest way .. . More people in Michael life trying to make more money I see. It's almost a year and still milking it . | |
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babybugz said: I find it so funny when stories like this about Michael come out and the fans are like omg it can't be true. Michael was no angel don't fall for his peter pan jive and I mean this in the Nicest way ..
. More people in Michael life trying to make more money I see. It's almost a year and still milking it .I surely thought there was more to MJ anyways so the fact that he had women in the back seat of his car doesn't shock me one bit. | |
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It's funny, people probably expected when MJ passed away, there would be CRAZY rumors about his private life. Instead, none of that has happened, and it has been almost been one year, and in place of that, Michael seems more normal than anyone ever wanted to give him credit for.
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angel345 said: Vanilli said: Did anyone else catch MJ's bodyguards on GMA?
You can watch the video here. Very fascinating. More of it will be on night-line tonight and even more on GMA tomorrow. VERY FASCINATING. http://www.mediatakeout.c...nside.html [Edited 3/9/10 10:06am] I felt it and suspect he wasn't gay I was just gonna post this but you beat me to it! I think the three body guards seem like solid down to earth types, very believable. I'd like to hear more of their stories. And the fact they want to write a book called "In Defense of the King" is great--to counteract all the negative drivel that's on the market now, which I refuse to read! | |
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babybugz said: I find it so funny when stories like this about Michael come out and the fans are like omg it can't be true. Michael was no angel don't fall for his peter pan jive and I mean this in the Nicest way ..
. More people in Michael life trying to make more money I see. It's almost a year and still milking it .I agree. I've seen some MJ fans freaking out over the revelations of him supposedly having girlfriends at other boards and I don't get it. I really don't. He was a regular guy in a lot of ways. I do believe MJ was shy esp. when he was younger, but the older he got, the more confident he became. I think for the most part, the asexual peter pan thing was really just an image. The reason why I find the bodyguards credible though is because they don't try to paint him out to be an angel nor do they try to make him out to be a monster. It seems like they were just talking about their experiences with Michael, good and bad. It was positive overall. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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Vanilli said: Did anyone else catch MJ's bodyguards on GMA?
You can watch the video here. Very fascinating. More of it will be on night-line tonight and even more on GMA tomorrow. VERY FASCINATING. http://www.mediatakeout.c...nside.html [Edited 3/9/10 10:06am] ive seen other videos of those body guards talking about stuff like whe mike got mad and threw his cell phone through the window. and other stuff. cool inside info. new single june 25th... better be good | |
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Interview Of The Day: MJ's Bodyguards Speak Out on 'Good Morning America'
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motownlover said: Vanilli said: Did anyone else catch MJ's bodyguards on GMA?
You can watch the video here. Very fascinating. More of it will be on night-line tonight and even more on GMA tomorrow. VERY FASCINATING. http://www.mediatakeout.c...nside.html [Edited 3/9/10 10:06am] ive seen other videos of those body guards talking about stuff like whe mike got mad and threw his cell phone through the window. and other stuff. cool inside info. new single june 25th... better be good Can´t wait to see them. Mike throwing out a cellphone...
Can´t get that image of him making out in the car out of my head.
Mike looking hot with facial hair. 
Karen all over Mike. Typical 
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Personally I think Michael and Karen had an affair thing going on.
She'd be a fool not to. Heck, I would have covered him with love.  [Edited 3/10/10 12:48pm] ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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sag10 said: Personally I think Michael and Karen had an affair thing going on.
She'd be a fool not to. Heck, I would have covered him with love.
[Edited 3/10/10 12:48pm] Agree with all of it. I´ve never seen a picture of the two of them without her kissing him or being all over him. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Cinnamon234 said: babybugz said: I find it so funny when stories like this about Michael come out and the fans are like omg it can't be true. Michael was no angel don't fall for his peter pan jive and I mean this in the Nicest way ..
. More people in Michael life trying to make more money I see. It's almost a year and still milking it .I agree. I've seen some MJ fans freaking out over the revelations of him supposedly having girlfriends at other boards and I don't get it. I really don't. He was a regular guy in a lot of ways. I do believe MJ was shy esp. when he was younger, but the older he got, the more confident he became. I think for the most part, the asexual peter pan thing was really just an image. The reason why I find the bodyguards credible though is because they don't try to paint him out to be an angel nor do they try to make him out to be a monster. It seems like they were just talking about their experiences with Michael, good and bad. It was positive overall. And that backfired in the end to be honest. | |
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babybugz said: Cinnamon234 said: I agree. I've seen some MJ fans freaking out over the revelations of him supposedly having girlfriends at other boards and I don't get it. I really don't. He was a regular guy in a lot of ways. I do believe MJ was shy esp. when he was younger, but the older he got, the more confident he became. I think for the most part, the asexual peter pan thing was really just an image. The reason why I find the bodyguards credible though is because they don't try to paint him out to be an angel nor do they try to make him out to be a monster. It seems like they were just talking about their experiences with Michael, good and bad. It was positive overall. And that backfired in the end to be honest. It did backfire, but maybe it was not just an image. He really seemed embarresed to talk about sex stuff in the public, so I think his embarresment and shyness was real and that may have portrayed the image. I think that peterpan thing and his childlikeness was not an image. It was real, but that was something he was not shy to show to the public. But it´s not like everything in his career was sex-free. Just listen to some of his songs. He was just embarrased about it to talk about it in the public, but when you get to see the not so public stuff, footage (the Glenda tapes etc.), he´s relaxed. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: babybugz said: And that backfired in the end to be honest. It did backfire, but maybe it was not just an image. He really seemed embarresed to talk about sex stuff in the public, so I think his embarresment and shyness was real and that may have portrayed the image. I think that peterpan thing and his childlikeness was not an image. It was real, but that was something he was not shy to show to the public. But it´s not like everything in his career was sex-free. Just listen to some of his songs. He was just embarrased about it to talk about it in the public, but when you get to see the not so public stuff, footage (the Glenda tapes etc.), he´s relaxed. I'm not talking about sex I was talking about the whole child like image in general. | |
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