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Reply #30 posted 02/26/10 5:47am

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Anita bought her husband an International House Of Pancakes franchise in the early 90's, the only "chain" restaraunt within the city limits at the time, except for fast food. She bought him all kinds of real estate, too so he could be seen as having his own income, because people were talking ish about her marrying him. He lost all of it. Now the major assets are her royalties. He's got to be some kind of dirty dog to still want more. If I were in Anita's shoes, I'd make them jail me.
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Reply #31 posted 02/26/10 5:48am

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funksterr said:

Anita bought her husband an International House Of Pancakes franchise in the early 90's, the only "chain" restaraunt within the city limits at the time, except for fast food. She bought him all kinds of real estate, too so he could be seen as having his own income, because people were talking ish about her marrying a guy not on her level financially. He lost all of it. Now the major assets are her royalties. He's got to be some kind of dirty dog to still want more. If I were in Anita's shoes, I'd make them jail me.
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Reply #32 posted 02/26/10 6:18am

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shorttrini said:

rocknrolldave said:

If I have understood this article correctly, the papers she is refusing to sign are simply to allow the courts to look over her contracts and agreements with her record company and her history of royalty payments that she has received.

It's because of this contempt of court that she's being threatened with jail, and to be honest I can see why.

If she has nothing to hide and she's not being unreasonable, then why not let the court see all the documents that prove it?


The thing is, she had not had the chance to read those documents herself. Tell me, would you sign something that you have not read?


Anytime the court/judge threatens to throw you in jail on contempt charges, it's because they think you are willfully stalling and besides you aren't following the court order/law. Some judges run a very tight ship; if this wasn't Anita Baker her butt would've probably be in the pokey or would've been told to leave the proceedings, with all these emotional outburst. That judge has up-teem other divorce proceedings he has to hear -I'm sure some are just as continuos- and he can't and doesn't have time for Baker to get it together just because she's distraught. If there was anything in the court order her lawyer(s) thought violated her right pertaining to the laws of Michigan, they would have said so. She needs to pull it together read the document sign it and go from there.

Besides, the court/ state laws do have powers at their disposal to start making decisions without her input, if it can be proven (contempt charges is a start) Ms. Baker hasn't act in good faith. I doubt it will come to that.....
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Reply #33 posted 02/26/10 6:33am

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shorttrini said:

rocknrolldave said:

If I have understood this article correctly, the papers she is refusing to sign are simply to allow the courts to look over her contracts and agreements with her record company and her history of royalty payments that she has received.

It's because of this contempt of court that she's being threatened with jail, and to be honest I can see why.

If she has nothing to hide and she's not being unreasonable, then why not let the court see all the documents that prove it?


The thing is, she had not had the chance to read those documents herself. Tell me, would you sign something that you have not read?



From what I understood of the article, she refused to even read them in the court in the court's time.
She sounds like she's being deliberately obstructive to me - and for sure that is what the judge seems to think.

Court cases do not happen suddenly and overnight, she will have had plenty of warning about what the court needs.
I think she is misunderstanding what it is she is being expected to sign...but then if she hasn't bothered to read it, what can she expect?
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Reply #34 posted 02/26/10 6:46am

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Reply #35 posted 02/26/10 6:58am

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funksterr said:

Anita bought her husband an International House Of Pancakes franchise in the early 90's, the only "chain" restaraunt within the city limits at the time, except for fast food. She bought him all kinds of real estate, too so he could be seen as having his own income, because people were talking ish about her marrying him. He lost all of it. Now the major assets are her royalties. He's got to be some kind of dirty dog to still want more. If I were in Anita's shoes, I'd make them jail me.


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Reply #36 posted 02/26/10 7:02am

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"Frankly, I haven't heard anything that amounts to an appropriate legal objection to signing these letters," the exasperated judge declared Wednesday. "I'm very upset that we have been here all day saying she isn't going to sign something she hasn't read."

Baker complained that "experts" have dominated court proceedings since her divorce from Walter Bridgforth Jr. in 2007, and she wanted to speak directly to the judge. Detroit entertainment attorney Howard Hertz, who represents Eminem, among other clients, was appointed by the judge as a music contract expert in an effort to settle the dispute.

"I'm being muzzled," Baker complained. "My attorneys agree that I know more about music contracts than they do. But I'm not allowed to talk. I invented my music out of thin air, but they have to talk for me, 'This little woman can't talk.' If I'd invented Ford, they would talk to me.


They need to get Judge Judy on this. She'd end this hearing with a quickness


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Reply #37 posted 02/26/10 7:14am

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funksterr said:

funksterr said:

Anita bought her husband an International House Of Pancakes franchise in the early 90's, the only "chain" restaurant within the city limits at the time, except for fast food. She bought him all kinds of real estate, too so he could be seen as having his own income, because people were talking ish about her marrying a guy not on her level financially. He lost all of it. Now the major assets are her royalties. He's got to be some kind of dirty dog to still want more. If I were in Anita's shoes, I'd make them jail me.


That wouldn't be wise.
That's part of the violin story that the court doesn't want to hear and won't. shrug Her reasons where for buying her ex anything (if that was the case) is neither here or there.


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Reply #38 posted 02/26/10 7:26am

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What a disaster.....New Rules that everyone should live by

1)write all your stuff
2)produce every aspect of your work, even down to the cover of it
3)dont sign with any label that gives % to "sources"
4)dont get married



Especially #4
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Reply #39 posted 02/26/10 7:57am

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She needs to talk to Sylvia Rhone. Sylvia is/was (?) a huge Anita fan and supporter
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Reply #40 posted 02/26/10 8:48am

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lastdecember said:

What a disaster.....New Rules that everyone should live by

1)write all your stuff
2)produce every aspect of your work, even down to the cover of it
3)dont sign with any label that gives % to "sources"
4)dont get married


5. Replay it interpolate it but never sample
6. Don't be chipmunkin them vocals
7.Get an ascap or get ya ass capped
8.4 every note you sing or play, 4 every time you tap a snare, put ya foot on the bass pedal on a drum set or drum machine, get it in writing b4 you mix and master it
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Reply #41 posted 02/26/10 8:57am

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This sounds like Anita thought the court would allow her to be a "diva" and not read the documents. Well, that's not going to happen.

I see both sides, though. Anita did create the songs and deserves the royalties.

I also understand that during the marriage, the money was equally both of theirs.

With that said, I didn't know she bought him franchises of IHOP and real estate. If that's the case, that means that she deserves half of any profits that he made from the IHOPs during the marriage, as well as half of any money that came from the real estate sales/rentals/whatever.

It also sounds like she could use another legal team.
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Reply #42 posted 02/26/10 9:00am

Cinnie

You know, I don't get why they can't just settle on alimony payments rather than handing over royalties in the form of "assets", if he is entitled to what she produced/earned during their marriage.
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Reply #43 posted 02/26/10 9:01am

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diamondpearl1 said:

lastdecember said:

What a disaster.....New Rules that everyone should live by

1)write all your stuff
2)produce every aspect of your work, even down to the cover of it
3)dont sign with any label that gives % to "sources"
4)dont get married


5. Replay it interpolate it but never sample
6. Don't be chipmunkin them vocals
7.Get an ascap or get ya ass capped
8.4 every note you sing or play, 4 every time you tap a snare, put ya foot on the bass pedal on a drum set or drum machine, get it in writing b4 you mix and master it



LMAO.
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Reply #44 posted 02/26/10 9:15am

Cinnie

ABeautifulOne said:

diamondpearl1 said:



5. Replay it interpolate it but never sample
6. Don't be chipmunkin them vocals
7.Get an ascap or get ya ass capped
8.4 every note you sing or play, 4 every time you tap a snare, put ya foot on the bass pedal on a drum set or drum machine, get it in writing b4 you mix and master it



LMAO.

lol http://www.youtube.com/wa...1s#t=1m04s
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Reply #45 posted 02/26/10 9:32am

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Cinnie said:

You know, I don't get why they can't just settle on alimony payments rather than handing over royalties in the form of "assets", if he is entitled to what she produced/earned during their marriage.

I don't know Michigan's law on marital property, but he has a good case if they view this as community property.

I wonder if he wants half of the publishing or half of the record royalties?
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Reply #46 posted 02/26/10 9:47am

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How much jail time would she get?
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Reply #47 posted 02/26/10 9:50am

Cinnie

scriptgirl said:

How much jail time would she get?


I don't understand how she could get jail time for this. Who goes to jail from a divorce settlement? Lawd.
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Reply #48 posted 02/26/10 9:52am

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funksterr said:

Anita bought her husband an International House Of Pancakes franchise in the early 90's, the only "chain" restaraunt within the city limits at the time, except for fast food. She bought him all kinds of real estate, too so he could be seen as having his own income, because people were talking ish about her marrying him. He lost all of it. Now the major assets are her royalties. He's got to be some kind of dirty dog to still want more. If I were in Anita's shoes, I'd make them jail me.


man i feel for anita....this sad ...she should pack her bags and leave the US after this ... sad
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Reply #49 posted 02/26/10 10:09am

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Cinnie said:

scriptgirl said:

How much jail time would she get?


I don't understand how she could get jail time for this. Who goes to jail from a divorce settlement? Lawd.


She would get jail time for contempt.
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Reply #50 posted 02/26/10 10:18am

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Cinnie said:

ABeautifulOne said:




LMAO.

lol http://www.youtube.com/wa...1s#t=1m04s



Cinnie you are WRONG! lol
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Reply #51 posted 02/26/10 10:20am

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Cinnie said:

scriptgirl said:

How much jail time would she get?


I don't understand how she could get jail time for this. Who goes to jail from a divorce settlement? Lawd.


It doesn't add up to me either.
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Reply #52 posted 02/26/10 10:48am

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Another leader in the adult contemporary takeover of the late 1980s in trouble these days. evillol
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Reply #53 posted 02/26/10 10:57am

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I think that everyone performers or not should have learned from Melba Moore that love don't love nobody.To my understanding, she also was pre-warned about this cat, and she married him anyway. Well, an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. I hope things work out for her.
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Reply #54 posted 02/26/10 11:08am

Cinnie

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Cinnie said:




Cinnie you are WRONG! lol

hmmm That song is kinda relevant to this thread "I probably make more off yo' album than YOU"
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Reply #55 posted 02/26/10 11:12am

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Okay I read the article and this thread but I'm still unclear...boxed He's broke and is trying to get more money because he lost all of his? Is he entitled to any of the royalties?
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Reply #56 posted 02/26/10 11:38am

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When you ignore a court order
the judge by law can charge and
hold you on contempt charges. This would
be the same if you didn't show up
to a court hearing. In most states you could
be arrested charged and held until
you've complied with court order. In
some instances the judge can order while
you are jailed that you be fined daily until you comply
with the court order\request.
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Reply #57 posted 02/26/10 12:34pm

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JackieBlue said:

Okay I read the article and this thread but I'm still unclear...boxed He's broke and is trying to get more money because he lost all of his? Is he entitled to any of the royalties?

We don't know.

In some states, he would be entitled to half of the royalties because the songs were written and released when they were married. That is why Brenda Richie (Lionel's Ex) gets royalties from Lionel's catalog from the Commodores material up to the Dancing On The Ceiling (I believe).
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Reply #58 posted 02/26/10 12:38pm

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vainandy said:

Another leader in the adult contemporary takeover of the late 1980s in trouble these days. evillol


I knew your tail was gonna show up sooner or later. With Whitney's vocal problems and now Anita's troubles, you must be having a ball. evillol
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Reply #59 posted 02/26/10 12:38pm

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TD3 said:

when you ignore a court order
the judge by law can charge with
hold you on contempt charges. This would
be the same if you didn't show up
to a court hearing. In most states you could
be arrested charged and held until
you complied with court order. In
some instances the judge can order while
you are jailed that you be fined daily until you comply
with the court order\request.
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