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Reply #60 posted 02/26/10 6:51pm

angel345

WaterInYourBath said:

missmad said:

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nod how the hell would she like it if someone talked bad bout her father?

Matthew Knowles foolishly has an illegitimate love child just like Joe Jackson, which ruined their "loving tight family" images. Maybe Beyonce is seriously upset about that just like Michael was, so who knows how she would feel.

But still, she probably learned not to publicly comment about other families. She received backlash, so she most likely will not go that route again.

More than likely because she almost started a family feud. Enough said.
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Reply #61 posted 02/26/10 6:58pm

missmad

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really? in the US? cause I saw none here in Australia


Yeah here.



ah ok. how so, other than like blog bashing etc?
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Reply #62 posted 02/26/10 6:59pm

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angel345 said:

WaterInYourBath said:


Matthew Knowles foolishly has an illegitimate love child just like Joe Jackson, which ruined their "loving tight family" images. Maybe Beyonce is seriously upset about that just like Michael was, so who knows how she would feel.

But still, she probably learned not to publicly comment about other families. She received backlash, so she most likely will not go that route again.

More than likely because she almost started a family feud. Enough said.



I have no idea bout that.
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Reply #63 posted 02/26/10 7:41pm

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But she doesn't even do that. If you listen to many of the demos that are available of the songs that she sings, she does it the EXACT same way it was originally sung. There are no changes whatsoever. Skeri Hilson also called her out on this. But she still gets to slap her name on music that she didn't write or produce.

I always thought that this was a smart move on Papa Knowles' part. There's not that much money in singing the song. The most money comes from writing the song. I didn't have a problem with it until the bitch walked home with a "Songwriter Of the Year" grammy. WTF?
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Didn't some B-Jean girl or whatever her name is wrote that song, and her people paid her $100,000 for it. Something like that was posted here last year. She's an up and coming artist.


Yeah, B.C. Jean wrote "If I Were A Boy" and planned on releasing it as her debut single. She said that she was shocked when her production partner sold the song to beyonce and he didn't even give her a heads up. That's cold. lol
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Reply #64 posted 02/26/10 11:45pm

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We all know Beyonce isn't that creative. She even takes credit for coming with the term "bootylicious" when we all know Snoop Dogg first used the term back in 1991-92 in the song "Fuck With Dre Day".

Bey says she wrote "Smash Into You". This is the original version sung by Jon McLaughlin for his album "Ok Now". The song was written by The Dream. Same lyrical content as Beys version, except SMACK is now SMASH.



Bey says she wrote the song "Halo". Here is Ryan Tedders original demo to the song. Only thing not used is the bridge, so how does she get writers credit?




Because her management is very persuasive and makes the far reach of his influence a key factor in songwriting and production point negotiations
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Reply #65 posted 02/27/10 9:53am

angel345

Layzie said:

angel345 said:


Didn't some B-Jean girl or whatever her name is wrote that song, and her people paid her $100,000 for it. Something like that was posted here last year. She's an up and coming artist.


Yeah, B.C. Jean wrote "If I Were A Boy" and planned on releasing it as her debut single. She said that she was shocked when her production partner sold the song to beyonce and he didn't even give her a heads up. That's cold. lol

Oh thanks for listing the name of the song. Also I believe that it was said that B.C. Jean will join Beyonce in future recordings. Don't know how true that is. She's probably too pissed right now with everyone involved.
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Reply #66 posted 02/27/10 10:00am

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Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.
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Reply #67 posted 02/27/10 10:08am

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Vanilli said:

Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.


I don't think so...

There is a huge difference between the Two, Despite all the criticism I think beyonce has some talents, JLO on the other hand should stick to acting , she is cannot sing....
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Reply #68 posted 02/27/10 11:06am

angel345

seeingvoices12 said:

Vanilli said:

Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.


I don't think so...

There is a huge difference between the Two, Despite all the criticism I think beyonce has some talents, JLO on the other hand should stick to acting , she is cannot sing....

Who knows how long for sure because back in the day, I thought that Madonna was just a flash in the pan, and can't sing. Look at her now. Record companies are always looking for fresh and young singers, so I'm sure Beyonce is aware and prepared for it.
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Reply #69 posted 02/27/10 1:33pm

missmad

Vanilli said:

Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.


really 80 mn made last yr or the yr b4, people r not gettin sick of her ass yet.
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Reply #70 posted 02/27/10 2:37pm

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Vanilli said:

Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.

The back lash is starting. I'm surprised it took this long, but it will happen soon, and frankly Destiny's Child reunion will be effected (and affect) it.
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Reply #71 posted 02/27/10 5:45pm

missmad

ernestsewell said:

Vanilli said:

Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.

The back lash is starting. I'm surprised it took this long, but it will happen soon, and frankly Destiny's Child reunion will be effected (and affect) it.


there is a dc reunion? i know B said at the vma's i think 1 time after all the hype about them breakin up that it wasn't the end aka it was just a ploy 4 them 2 sell more records
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Reply #72 posted 02/27/10 6:21pm

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missmad said:

ernestsewell said:


The back lash is starting. I'm surprised it took this long, but it will happen soon, and frankly Destiny's Child reunion will be effected (and affect) it.


there is a dc reunion? i know B said at the vma's i think 1 time after all the hype about them breakin up that it wasn't the end aka it was just a ploy 4 them 2 sell more records

She's said they are getting back together. And it's a total ploy. It's only been five years or so since they called it quits. They may very well still owe a record to the record company, otherwise why bother? Who calls it quit for five years? It was a fancy way of saying, "We're taking a break while Beyowulf steals songs, lies about shit, and rakes in the cash."
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Reply #73 posted 02/27/10 6:24pm

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Who's surprised by this? Anyone? Anyone?

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Reply #74 posted 02/27/10 6:54pm

missmad

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missmad said:

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there is a dc reunion? i know B said at the vma's i think 1 time after all the hype about them breakin up that it wasn't the end aka it was just a ploy 4 them 2 sell more records

She's said they are getting back together. And it's a total ploy. It's only been five years or so since they called it quits. They may very well still owe a record to the record company, otherwise why bother? Who calls it quit for five years? It was a fancy way of saying, "We're taking a break while Beyowulf steals songs, lies about shit, and rakes in the cash."



ah ok haven't heard that, it is, to the max nod right 2004? right maybe. i think the "we're breaking up" line was a tactic 2 boost sales and press- they knew they weren't going to but maybe the record company said u r not selling so they came up with that bullshit. fancy indeed nod not sure if they will esp after michele and kelly left MW entertainment
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Reply #75 posted 02/27/10 6:59pm

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missmad said:

ernestsewell said:


She's said they are getting back together. And it's a total ploy. It's only been five years or so since they called it quits. They may very well still owe a record to the record company, otherwise why bother? Who calls it quit for five years? It was a fancy way of saying, "We're taking a break while Beyowulf steals songs, lies about shit, and rakes in the cash."



ah ok haven't heard that, it is, to the max nod right 2004? right maybe. i think the "we're breaking up" line was a tactic 2 boost sales and press- they knew they weren't going to but maybe the record company said u r not selling so they came up with that bullshit. fancy indeed nod not sure if they will esp after michele and kelly left MW entertainment

"Destiny Fulfilled" was a joke in title alone.
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Reply #76 posted 02/28/10 12:09am

missmad

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missmad said:




ah ok haven't heard that, it is, to the max nod right 2004? right maybe. i think the "we're breaking up" line was a tactic 2 boost sales and press- they knew they weren't going to but maybe the record company said u r not selling so they came up with that bullshit. fancy indeed nod not sure if they will esp after michele and kelly left MW entertainment

"Destin Fulfilled" was a joke in title alone.




yep, was a joke indeed
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Reply #77 posted 02/28/10 2:54am

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Vanilli said:

Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.

Maybe, but the only way that will happen is if a younger girl/woman comes along who is better than Beyonce. That hasn't happened yet, and probably won't for a long time.
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Reply #78 posted 02/28/10 12:33pm

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Looks like PaPa Knowles ganked another producer for his producing credits and gave them to his daughter Beyonce. Rob Fusari produced Destiny’s Child’s hit “Bootylicious” and claims it was his idea to use the Stevie Nicks sample in it. In his recent interview with Billboard.com, Rob talks about now being one of Lady GaGa’s major producers and how Mathew Knowles told him to his face back in ‘01 he stole the “Bootylicious” credits for B.

Robs interview snippet when you read the rest…


Fusari tells Billboard magazine, “I came up with the idea to build a track using the guitar riff from Stevie Nicks’ Edge of Seventeen.

“I figured I’d put the guitar loop on there temporarily, and later go into the studio with a guitar and replay it, because I’d learned, after sampling Stevie Wonder’s I Wish for Will Smith’s Wild Wild West, that I didn’t want to lose 50 per cent of the publishing (royalties). I vividly remember telling Mathew Knowles, ‘Mathew, you got to book me into your studio and let me replay that riff.’

“He didn’t want to do it. So 50 per cent got cut for one note. That whole experience was bittersweet for me.

“I remember watching Barbara Walters interview Beyonce about Bootylicious, and she told Barbara about how she came up with the idea for the track.”

Fusari, who went on to help Lady Gaga launch her pop career, insists he was brushed off when he complained about the interview, adding, “I called Mathew – which was a big mistake; I got emotional, and I apologised after – but I called Mathew and said, ‘Mathew, like, why?’ He explained to me, in a nice way, he said, ‘People don’t want to hear about Rob Fusari, producer from Livingston, N.J. No offence, but that’s not what sells records. What sells records is people believing that the artist is everything.’ And I’m like, ‘Yeah, I know, Mathew. I understand the game. But come on, I’m trying too. I’m a squirrel trying to get a nut, too.’”

That's what we were discussing earlier somebody put her on blast about this same issue in a thread before. That is how this broad is staying on top of her game. Her daddy finds a loophole and runs with it. I wonder if Jay-Z is doing the same thing? Beyonce's secret making hits is really no secret nowadays.
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Reply #79 posted 02/28/10 12:48pm

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The best thing B can do, at this point, is to go on a "hiatus" Take a break. If she does than we will see if she's really "Queen B", if time away proves her to be a "True Star".
I agree with the person who said that JLo is a better actress than singer, but that can't be said of B. She should definitely stop acting, because she has yet to be anyone other than B.
Maybe, during her break, she can take some acting classes.
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Reply #80 posted 02/28/10 3:00pm

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Maybe Bey just needs a new manager instead of that crooked ass daddy of hers. neutral
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Reply #81 posted 02/28/10 3:12pm

midiscover

This is out of Control!!

I saw Beyonce at KFC, she was snatching drumsticks from innocent children. SHE MUST BE STOPPED NOWAH!!!
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Reply #82 posted 02/28/10 4:00pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Maybe Bey just needs a new manager instead of that crooked ass daddy of hers. neutral



Exactly. Everybody else is dropping him so I'm positive she'll follow suit sooner or later unless he has that good of a contract on her.
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Reply #83 posted 02/28/10 4:53pm

Cinnie

midiscover said:

I saw Beyonce at KFC, she was snatching drumsticks from innocent children. SHE MUST BE STOPPED NOWAH!!!


hahahahaha!!
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Reply #84 posted 02/28/10 11:46pm

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Maybe Bey just needs a new manager instead of that crooked ass daddy of hers. neutral

Yeah. But at the same time, it ain't all about Papa Knowles. Maybe, when she first started out her career, she didn't know anything about getting credits and stuff, but now she's over 10 years deep into the game. She learned about the business more and more. Too late to act innocent and naive.
Basically she went with stealing credits and claiming those songs as her own creation. I don't think she herself wanted to do it from the very start, but she let him go and do the dirty work probably after he told her "You got to play your cards right to get ahead." "Independent women", my ass.

I gotta add this one phrase about this whole thing: Karma is a bitch.
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Reply #85 posted 03/01/10 1:04am

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inia said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Maybe Bey just needs a new manager instead of that crooked ass daddy of hers. neutral

Yeah. But at the same time, it ain't all about Papa Knowles. Maybe, when she first started out her career, she didn't know anything about getting credits and stuff, but now she's over 10 years deep into the game. She learned about the business more and more. Too late to act innocent and naive.
Basically she went with stealing credits and claiming those songs as her own creation. I don't think she herself wanted to do it from the very start, but she let him go and do the dirty work probably after he told her "You got to play your cards right to get ahead." "Independent women", my ass.

I gotta add this one phrase about this whole thing: Karma is a bitch.
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Reply #86 posted 03/01/10 2:01am

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WaterInYourBath said:

Vanilli said:

Her "career" will go the way of J. Lo. Just give her a few years.
People are already losing luster for her.

Maybe, but the only way that will happen is if a younger girl/woman comes along who is better than Beyonce. That hasn't happened yet, and probably won't for a long time.

That's a sad statement on the music industry, if you ask me. It shouldn't be hard to find someone with more talent than Beyonce.
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Reply #87 posted 03/01/10 7:09am

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What B has is stage presence and her ability to generate revenue. It's not beauty, because there are more attractive females...Kelly R., Rhianna, Jill S. and Keyshia C. to name a few. Singing ability? Well, as we all know, you don't have to know how to sing to sell millions. In fact, the best singers don't for various reasons, but mostly physical appearance. Just look at Jennifer H. who can sing B up under a bridge, but Jennifer doesn't fit into America's standard of beauty. Overall musical talent? B has showmenship. She is a good at entertaining. But, she can't write her own songs. I mean, what female can't write a Break-Up song? Solange is far more talented than big sis. But the industy views her as strange, because she is her own person and does what she wants to musically.
B's replacement....look up "Little Miss Swagger" on youtube. Maybe, she's it.

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Reply #88 posted 03/01/10 10:17am

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meow85 said:

WaterInYourBath said:


Maybe, but the only way that will happen is if a younger girl/woman comes along who is better than Beyonce. That hasn't happened yet, and probably won't for a long time.

That's a sad statement on the music industry, if you ask me. It shouldn't be hard to find someone with more talent than Beyonce.

It would have been Ciara, but she doesn't sing better than than as Beyonce.

Beyonce does everything (except play an instrument on stage, which really doesn't matter), plus she is a hard worker. No matter what anyone's opinion, it will take a lot to beat her.
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Reply #89 posted 03/01/10 12:47pm

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Cinnie said:

She usually gets production or song writing credit for doing a vocal arrangement, which isn't supposed to count as writing towards a composition... it is merely an arrangement for that song.

Bullshit. She flat out says, "I wrote this song....." She even said that recently in a concert about "Irreplaceable" or "Single Ladies" - neither of which she fucking wrote. Lyin' ass bitch. Even the MFing wiki page on "Irreplaceable" doesn't say anything about her writing it; rather she wanted to change vocal arrangements, add drums, and sing the chorus higher. That's not writing. Ne-Yo was going to make it into a country track, although it was originally written from a male perspective.

She's just so full of shit.


Ne-yo said on a radio station Power 105.9 with Big Boi here. That he wrote "Irreplaceable" and he sung the whols song live like he wrote it and there was no difference. Except for he change he to she...He said Beyonce made minor changes with her vocals. But that was it. Beyonce adds things to those songs so she can get royalties. But she never totally writes those songs.


She straight out said she wrote "Irreplaceable" . I respect her as the hardest working woman in show Business(I prefer Janet Jackson). But she is a liar and she needs to stop doing that or its going to catch up with her. She has won awards as top female writer from Billboard. Its not true. She is a faker. She also lied about Jay z being her first boyfriend. But she dated Marques Houston before Jay Z.
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