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Thread started 03/04/10 8:32am

Genesia

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Remember the "treadmill" video?

Same guys...even better...

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Reply #1 posted 03/04/10 8:48am

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fuckin love it. made me excited about music videos again.



but it reminded me of
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Reply #2 posted 03/04/10 9:15am

obsessed

Genesia said:

Same guys...even better...



That was great! lol
And it must have taken forever to set up! clapping
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Reply #3 posted 03/04/10 9:30am

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obsessed said:

Genesia said:

Same guys...even better...



That was great! lol
And it must have taken forever to set up! clapping


The thing that boggled my mind is that they got it to sync with the music. shake
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Reply #4 posted 03/04/10 10:24am

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It's very Julien Temple inspired. Remember, he did long shots like this for Janet Jackson's videos of "Alright", and "When I Think Of You", as well as the long intro sequence for the movie Absolute Beginners. I like it.
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ernestsewell said:

It's very Julien Temple inspired. Remember, he did long shots like this for Janet Jackson's videos of "Alright", and "When I Think Of You", as well as the long intro sequence for the movie Absolute Beginners. I like it.



yeah but you can spot the cuts in WITOY it was really sloppy. wonder if i can spot cuts in this one
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Reply #6 posted 03/04/10 10:48am

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yeah but you can spot the cuts in WITOY it was really sloppy. wonder if i can spot cuts in this one

It was as good as it could have been back then. Absolute Beginners has those "obvious" moments as well, as did "Alright". Technology in film has push those sort of things into a better result these days, so they're not really comparable.
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ernestsewell said:

Nvncible1 said:

yeah but you can spot the cuts in WITOY it was really sloppy. wonder if i can spot cuts in this one

It was as good as it could have been back then. Absolute Beginners has those "obvious" moments as well, as did "Alright". Technology in film has push those sort of things into a better result these days, so they're not really comparable.



nah ive seen movies from the 40s who could pull it off seamlessly.

sloopy is sloppy. wink
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Reply #8 posted 03/04/10 12:11pm

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Nvncible1 said:

ernestsewell said:


It was as good as it could have been back then. Absolute Beginners has those "obvious" moments as well, as did "Alright". Technology in film has push those sort of things into a better result these days, so they're not really comparable.



nah ive seen movies from the 40s who could pull it off seamlessly.

sloopy is sloppy. wink

Doesn't really matter to me either way.
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Reply #9 posted 03/04/10 12:34pm

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oh errrrrnth. you and your lack o' cares lol
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Reply #10 posted 03/04/10 3:25pm

ernestsewell

Nvncible1 said:

oh errrrrnth. you and your lack o' cares lol

Not really sure what an "errrrrnth" is, but ok.
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Reply #11 posted 03/05/10 8:26am

Genesia

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Nvncible1 said:

ernestsewell said:

It's very Julien Temple inspired. Remember, he did long shots like this for Janet Jackson's videos of "Alright", and "When I Think Of You", as well as the long intro sequence for the movie Absolute Beginners. I like it.



yeah but you can spot the cuts in WITOY it was really sloppy. wonder if i can spot cuts in this one


According to OK GO's lead singer, Damian Kulash, there's only one...

Like many of you, we’re gobsmacked by OK Go’s latest video, “This Too Shall Pass,” the band’s ode to Reuben Lucius Goldberg. It manages to not only evoke the sheer delight of the elaborate treadmill choreography of the band’s earlier video for “Here It Goes Again,” but also encourages ridiculous amounts of repeat viewing, if only to figure out how the motherfrackin’ hell they did it. We met with OK Go’s boyishly handsome frontman Damian Kulash for a drink at the Soho Grand’s bar, where he explained that, for the band, videos are art projects onto themselves — they aren’t created to tell you more about the song. In fact, the song is chosen after they settle on the concept for the video. Kulash then enthusiastically spilled some of the secrets behind the making of “This Too Shall Pass.” But before you read on, take a first or second (or tenth) look at the three-and-a-half-minute video so you know what he’s talking about.

How did you settle on using “This Too Shall Pass” We had videos of various Rube Goldberg machines, and we’d play our songs along with them. Some were too upbeat or too slow. “This Too Shall Pass” had an anthemic quality that celebrated the machine.

Were you inspired by that (totally real) Honda Accord ad? It’s impressive and thrilling, but it’s so beautiful that you lose the element of I can’t believe it worked! The more beautiful it is, the harder it is to believe CGI wasn’t involved. My inspiration was PythagoraSwitch, a Japanese children’s show — sort of their Sesame Street. They do these crazily ingenious ten or twenty second Rube Goldberg machines — there’s a twenty minute-ish collection of a bunch of them that I’ve watched a dozen times.

How long did the video take to make, and how many people were involved? We started last August by posting an ad looking for someone to help us for a couple of months. Two days later, eighteen people applied. We couldn’t afford more than one staffer, so we split that salary up among everyone — though none of them were really in it for the money. There were a core dozen people, with about 60 on the days we were shooting. Most of them had day jobs at NASA or Jet-Propulsion Labs and came from a group now called Syyn Labs, which is composed of people who have too much creativity for their jobs or whose projects don’t fit into the academic art scene. We spent September looking for spaces; we ended up with a run-down place in Echo Park for $5,000 a month, which we had to completely overhaul. We were also working on basic design logistics, breaking the video down into six-second segments. We moved into the space in early November, and the build began later that month. We were on tour in December and the beginning of January, but the engineers worked tirelessly to get the machine to happen; they’d send us plans and videos for approval. Mid-January was spent finishing the machine. We had a couple of days of rehearsals, and then two 24-hour days of actual shooting. At the end of the video you see some of the engineers, but we were doing it in shifts so unfortunately it’s only about half of them.

Did you have rules for how to shoot it? Pages and pages of rules! The most important was no magic, no cheating. People had to see how difficult it was — you can’t fake unlikeliness. But we talked exhaustively through everything, like debating what defines magic and or how constraints make creativity.
How many takes are we talking about? Over a hundred, though roughly 62 of what we defined as a successful take — which we considered to be getting beyond the dominoes, the metal balls and what we call the Japanese table [which Kulash built with his dad], where you first see me. The hardest task was keeping the machine in time to the song — we just couldn’t screw that up.

Well, you definitely managed to bring the magic. But come clean: How much editing did you have to do afterward? We did three takes of the segment with the water descent [which occurs at 2:18 in the video], but only once did the water flow match the song. It pains me to say it but that part is edited in.
How much did the video cost? Our first video was financed by EMI and had a big-time director; the label called the shots and we got billed for over half a million dollars. Let’s just say we could have made three videos for “This Too Shall” pass for that amount of money.

Your troubles with your label, EMI, are well reported, and you started going around them early on, making your videos for a comparative pittance. They had nothing to do with your latest video, either. How did you finance it? State Farm gave us the money. They were looking for new ways to get their message out online. They took a leap of faith and let us go for it with no micromanaging. They were a lot easier to work with than a record label, and they had no issues with the video being embedded on websites. They only cared how their name would be used. [If you look closely at the little red truck that starts the video, there’s a State Farm label on the side. Go State Farm! But does that mean the future of the music industry is ... insurance?]



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Reply #12 posted 03/05/10 9:05am

ernestsewell

This video made CNN today. Jeannie Moss did a report on it. It took so many takes to get it done. If you look, the old, damaged TV sets they destroy are in the background (the ones from previous takes), as well as the first piano they destroyed. It's probably one of the best music videos ever produced.
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Reply #13 posted 03/09/10 10:49am

obsessed

Genesia said:


According to OK GO's lead singer, Damian Kulash, there's only one...

Like many of you, we’re gobsmacked by OK Go’s latest video, “This Too Shall Pass,” the band’s ode to Reuben Lucius Goldberg. It manages to not only evoke the sheer delight of the elaborate treadmill choreography of the band’s earlier video for “Here It Goes Again,” but also encourages ridiculous amounts of repeat viewing, if only to figure out how the motherfrackin’ hell they did it. We met with OK Go’s boyishly handsome frontman Damian Kulash for a drink at the Soho Grand’s bar, where he explained that, for the band, videos are art projects onto themselves — they aren’t created to tell you more about the song. In fact, the song is chosen after they settle on the concept for the video. Kulash then enthusiastically spilled some of the secrets behind the making of “This Too Shall Pass.” But before you read on, take a first or second (or tenth) look at the three-and-a-half-minute video so you know what he’s talking about.

How did you settle on using “This Too Shall Pass” We had videos of various Rube Goldberg machines, and we’d play our songs along with them. Some were too upbeat or too slow. “This Too Shall Pass” had an anthemic quality that celebrated the machine.

Were you inspired by that (totally real) Honda Accord ad? It’s impressive and thrilling, but it’s so beautiful that you lose the element of I can’t believe it worked! The more beautiful it is, the harder it is to believe CGI wasn’t involved. My inspiration was PythagoraSwitch, a Japanese children’s show — sort of their Sesame Street. They do these crazily ingenious ten or twenty second Rube Goldberg machines — there’s a twenty minute-ish collection of a bunch of them that I’ve watched a dozen times.

How long did the video take to make, and how many people were involved? We started last August by posting an ad looking for someone to help us for a couple of months. Two days later, eighteen people applied. We couldn’t afford more than one staffer, so we split that salary up among everyone — though none of them were really in it for the money. There were a core dozen people, with about 60 on the days we were shooting. Most of them had day jobs at NASA or Jet-Propulsion Labs and came from a group now called Syyn Labs, which is composed of people who have too much creativity for their jobs or whose projects don’t fit into the academic art scene. We spent September looking for spaces; we ended up with a run-down place in Echo Park for $5,000 a month, which we had to completely overhaul. We were also working on basic design logistics, breaking the video down into six-second segments. We moved into the space in early November, and the build began later that month. We were on tour in December and the beginning of January, but the engineers worked tirelessly to get the machine to happen; they’d send us plans and videos for approval. Mid-January was spent finishing the machine. We had a couple of days of rehearsals, and then two 24-hour days of actual shooting. At the end of the video you see some of the engineers, but we were doing it in shifts so unfortunately it’s only about half of them.

Did you have rules for how to shoot it? Pages and pages of rules! The most important was no magic, no cheating. People had to see how difficult it was — you can’t fake unlikeliness. But we talked exhaustively through everything, like debating what defines magic and or how constraints make creativity.
How many takes are we talking about? Over a hundred, though roughly 62 of what we defined as a successful take — which we considered to be getting beyond the dominoes, the metal balls and what we call the Japanese table [which Kulash built with his dad], where you first see me. The hardest task was keeping the machine in time to the song — we just couldn’t screw that up.


Well, you definitely managed to bring the magic. But come clean: How much editing did you have to do afterward? We did three takes of the segment with the water descent [which occurs at 2:18 in the video], but only once did the water flow match the song. It pains me to say it but that part is edited in.
How much did the video cost? Our first video was financed by EMI and had a big-time director; the label called the shots and we got billed for over half a million dollars. Let’s just say we could have made three videos for “This Too Shall” pass for that amount of money.

Your troubles with your label, EMI, are well reported, and you started going around them early on, making your videos for a comparative pittance. They had nothing to do with your latest video, either. How did you finance it? State Farm gave us the money. They were looking for new ways to get their message out online. They took a leap of faith and let us go for it with no micromanaging. They were a lot easier to work with than a record label, and they had no issues with the video being embedded on websites. They only cared how their name would be used. [If you look closely at the little red truck that starts the video, there’s a State Farm label on the side. Go State Farm! But does that mean the future of the music industry is ... insurance?]




Amazing information.....especially the part in regards to making only one
cut and doing over 100 takes, trying to get it in sync with the music!!!
Just amazing!!!

Interesting too about State Farm sponsoring it. I didn't see the logo
on the red truck the first time I watched, but the second time around
I realized it was there. I'm surprised that State Farm didn't have
a bit more advertising throughout lol But actually it was quite
classy the way they decided to do it.
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