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TonyVanDam

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Culture Club in ther first and only appearance on Soul Train (1985)

Now on YT for a limited time. Enjoy.

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Reply #1 posted 02/14/10 1:43pm

vainandy

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I love that hair.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #2 posted 02/14/10 1:58pm

Timmy84

cool
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Reply #3 posted 02/14/10 3:26pm

ernestsewell

He was on heroin by this point, and you can tell. He's more gaunt, and he had cut off his hair.

Amazing that Don wouldn't have a "grown man in a diaper" on his show with Parliament, but he'd have a drag queen. Go figure.
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Reply #4 posted 02/14/10 3:34pm

Timmy84

ernestsewell said:

He was on heroin by this point, and you can tell. He's more gaunt, and he had cut off his hair.

Amazing that Don wouldn't have a "grown man in a diaper" on his show with Parliament, but he'd have a drag queen. Go figure.


Double standards lol
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/10 4:57pm

TonyVanDam

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ernestsewell said:

He was on heroin by this point, and you can tell. He's more gaunt, and he had cut off his hair.

Amazing that Don wouldn't have a "grown man in a diaper" on his show with Parliament, but he'd have a drag queen. Go figure.


In fairness, Boy George had his clothes on and dressing more butch. Even his ex-boyfriend Jon Moss wasn't wearing the girlie short shorts anymore.
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Reply #6 posted 02/14/10 5:04pm

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thanks for posting, actually listening to some Culture Club tonight. They were terrific, IMHO - underrated as a pop band. They are mostly known for their singles, but they had songs of killer album tracks as well.

Still think "waking up with the house on fire" was unfairly underrated.
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Reply #7 posted 02/14/10 5:29pm

Cinnie

Man, "Move Away" was a fave back then.
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Reply #8 posted 02/14/10 5:55pm

TonyVanDam

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NoVideo said:

thanks for posting, actually listening to some Culture Club tonight. They were terrific, IMHO - underrated as a pop band. They are mostly known for their singles, but they had songs of killer album tracks as well.

Still think "waking up with the house on fire" was unfairly underrated.


Even today, I'm disappointed that The Metal Song was never release as a single in the USA as it was in the UK.
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Reply #9 posted 02/14/10 5:59pm

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TonyVanDam said:

NoVideo said:

thanks for posting, actually listening to some Culture Club tonight. They were terrific, IMHO - underrated as a pop band. They are mostly known for their singles, but they had songs of killer album tracks as well.

Still think "waking up with the house on fire" was unfairly underrated.


Even today, I'm disappointed that The Metal Song was never release as a single in the USA as it was in the UK.



agreed, the medal song and the dive would both have been terrific singles. There were several hits-that-should-have-been on that album.
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Reply #10 posted 02/14/10 6:07pm

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One of my all time favorite groups. Every song I hear by Culture Club takes me right back to a wonderful place in the past. Wow, do I miss those days.
I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin.
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Reply #11 posted 02/14/10 6:36pm

ernestsewell

TonyVanDam said:

ernestsewell said:

He was on heroin by this point, and you can tell. He's more gaunt, and he had cut off his hair.

Amazing that Don wouldn't have a "grown man in a diaper" on his show with Parliament, but he'd have a drag queen. Go figure.


In fairness, Boy George had his clothes on and dressing more butch. Even his ex-boyfriend Jon Moss wasn't wearing the girlie short shorts anymore.

He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.
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Reply #12 posted 02/14/10 6:48pm

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ernestsewell said:

TonyVanDam said:



In fairness, Boy George had his clothes on and dressing more butch. Even his ex-boyfriend Jon Moss wasn't wearing the girlie short shorts anymore.

He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.



I don't give a flying fuck what he was/is! If anyone had bet me that "Boy George and /or Culture Club" has performed on "Soul Train"...I'd have LOST my motherfucking shirt!!! omfg

Thank heavens for YouTube!!!!! worship

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Reply #13 posted 02/14/10 6:51pm

ernestsewell

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

ernestsewell said:


He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.



I don't give a flying fuck what he was/is! If anyone had bet me that "Boy George and /or Culture Club" has performed on "Soul Train"...I'd have LOST my motherfucking shirt

The point was that Don didn't let Parliament on Soul Train because one of its members wore a diaper. It's a double standard, and a stupid one.
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Reply #14 posted 02/14/10 6:55pm

Cinnie

ernestsewell said:

TonyVanDam said:



In fairness, Boy George had his clothes on and dressing more butch. Even his ex-boyfriend Jon Moss wasn't wearing the girlie short shorts anymore.

He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.

You forgot to mention white.
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Reply #15 posted 02/14/10 7:23pm

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Did Culture Club have a big R&B following back then?
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Reply #16 posted 02/14/10 7:36pm

ernestsewell

Cinnie said:

ernestsewell said:


He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.

You forgot to mention white.

He had white people on there, the first being Gino Vannelli, and later David Bowie, and others.
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Reply #17 posted 02/14/10 7:48pm

ernestsewell

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Did Culture Club have a big R&B following back then?

Yes. If you listen to their music, especially their first couple of albums, listen past the pop sensibility to it, and it's nothing but regrouped reggae music. The same was true of Blondie and The Knack - those groups had a reggae beat behind it.

However, Boy George is one of the best R&B singers around, so yes they did have that fanbase. He had a great soul voice. Listen to those ballads like "Victims", "Time", etc, or a soul filled gospel tinged song like "Church of the Poison Mind" or "The War Song".
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Reply #18 posted 02/14/10 7:49pm

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ernestsewell said:

bboy87 said:

Did Culture Club have a big R&B following back then?

Yes. If you listen to their music, especially their first couple of albums, listen past the pop sensibility to it, and it's nothing but regrouped reggae music. The same was true of Blondie and The Knack - those groups had a reggae beat behind it.

However, Boy George is one of the best R&B singers around, so yes they did have that fanbase. He had a great soul voice. Listen to those ballads like "Victims", "Time", etc, or a soul filled gospel tinged song like "Church of the Poison Mind" or "The War Song".

I love alot of their music, but I've always wondered if they ever charted on the R&B charts....
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Reply #19 posted 02/14/10 7:57pm

ernestsewell

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I love alot of their music, but I've always wondered if they ever charted on the R&B charts....

Albums:
Kissing To Be Clever - #24 on R&B,
#5 on US Albums
#14 on Billboard 200

Colour By Numbers - #7 on R&B
#2 US Billboard 200
(#1 in UK)

Waking Up With The House On Fire - (Which was when George was getting into drugs, plus this album sounded unfinished and demo-ish like Dirty Mind did; it suffered greatly because of all of that)
#55 R&B
#2 UK
#26 Billboard 200

From Luxury To Heartache
#32 Billboard 200
#10 UK
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Reply #20 posted 02/14/10 8:15pm

Timmy84

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Did Culture Club have a big R&B following back then?


nod I know a lot of Culture Club joints. My siblings loved their music.
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Reply #21 posted 02/14/10 8:16pm

Timmy84

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

ernestsewell said:


He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.



I don't give a flying fuck what he was/is! If anyone had bet me that "Boy George and /or Culture Club" has performed on "Soul Train"...I'd have LOST my motherfucking shirt!!! omfg

Thank heavens for YouTube!!!!! worship

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Yep. nod
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Reply #22 posted 02/14/10 8:18pm

TonyVanDam

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ernestsewell said:

TonyVanDam said:



In fairness, Boy George had his clothes on and dressing more butch. Even his ex-boyfriend Jon Moss wasn't wearing the girlie short shorts anymore.

He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.


Yes, it was bad news about his drug problem. But as for everything else, so what?!? BG was still a grown man with OR without make-up.
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Reply #23 posted 02/14/10 8:21pm

TonyVanDam

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Cinnie said:

ernestsewell said:


He was still a heroin addicted drag queen homosexual.

You forgot to mention white.


Oh that's no excuse. David Bowie was THE first white man on Soul Train. And even he butch up his image (meaning that Ziggy Stardust was so dead).
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Reply #24 posted 02/14/10 8:26pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Cinnie said:


You forgot to mention white.


Oh that's no excuse. David Bowie was THE first white man on Soul Train. And even he butch up his image (meaning that Ziggy Stardust was so dead).


By the time he came on Soul Train, he had already retired that character anyway.
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Reply #25 posted 02/14/10 8:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Oh that's no excuse. David Bowie was THE first white man on Soul Train. And even he butch up his image (meaning that Ziggy Stardust was so dead).


By the time he came on Soul Train, he had already retired that character anyway.


With that said, who was the first male artist to appear on Soul Train with women's make-up on?

If I was a gambler, I would bet it was The Deele.
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Reply #26 posted 02/14/10 8:35pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Did Culture Club have a big R&B following back then?


nod I know a lot of Culture Club joints. My siblings loved their music.


Hell yeah, Culture Club had a black following. nod Boy George was already part of the UK northern soul community. As for the USA, some of Culture Club hit songs crossover on black radio.
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Reply #27 posted 02/14/10 8:39pm

ernestsewell

TonyVanDam said:

Oh that's no excuse. David Bowie was THE first white man on Soul Train.

No he wasn't. There's a misreport about it being Tower of Power, but that is in correct too. Gino Vannelli toured as the opening act for Stevie Wonder, was the first white artist to appear on Soul Train. To that point, a lot of radio listeners thought Gino was black, until he appeared on Soul Train. David Bowie came soon after.
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Reply #28 posted 02/14/10 8:46pm

Timmy84

Gino
Average White Band
Elton
David

(I think it was in this order, not too sure tho...)
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Reply #29 posted 02/14/10 9:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

Gino
Average White Band
Elton
David

(I think it was in this order, not too sure tho...)

I heard Wham! made an appearance too.....
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