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Reply #30 posted 02/14/10 10:29am

diamondpearl1

phunkdaddy said:

I was blown away by Ernie's solo on Sensitive Lover too when
i first saw the video and was inspired to buy the album. I had
never bought an Isley brother album without Ernie playing on it.
I was saddened and shocked to learn what happened to Marvin
after the Mission to Please album. I did buy the Eternal cd
because Ernie laid some licks down on that album and their
was only one R.Kelly produced song. I dug Move Your Body a lot
which was reminiscent of some of the Isleys 70's songs with
Ernie laying the licks on it.


Ya know after readin your thoughts on Eternal I just might have 2 go and get that album lol Hell the way it looks with Ron and Ernie not playin together right now, it just might be that "last classic Isley album" I was talkin about
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Reply #31 posted 02/14/10 10:32am

trueiopian

missfee said:

midiscover said:



falloff

I wouldn't be surprised if he reprises that role.

With R. Kelly right by his side.


lol

I love it. My fav. is "Busted" falloff

I hope the Isley Brothers can get back together. The Body Kiss album was nice.
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Reply #32 posted 02/14/10 10:35am

Timmy84

diamondpearl1 said:

phunkdaddy said:

I was blown away by Ernie's solo on Sensitive Lover too when
i first saw the video and was inspired to buy the album. I had
never bought an Isley brother album without Ernie playing on it.
I was saddened and shocked to learn what happened to Marvin
after the Mission to Please album. I did buy the Eternal cd
because Ernie laid some licks down on that album and their
was only one R.Kelly produced song. I dug Move Your Body a lot
which was reminiscent of some of the Isleys 70's songs with
Ernie laying the licks on it.


Ya know after readin your thoughts on Eternal I just might have 2 go and get that album lol Hell the way it looks with Ron and Ernie not playin together right now, it just might be that "last classic Isley album" I was talkin about


There's another thing to add to the mystery: Ernie actually has a scheduled performance at the Experience Hendrix tour. I think it's around the same time as Ron's Boardwalk performance...

SO who's zooming who?
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Reply #33 posted 02/14/10 10:37am

Timmy84

To me this will always BE the Isley Brothers:



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Reply #34 posted 02/14/10 10:38am

Timmy84

From "The Cow Jumped Over the Moon" to at least Smooth Sailin', that's when the Isley Brothers were The Isley Brothers.
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Reply #35 posted 02/14/10 10:46am

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

From "The Cow Jumped Over the Moon" to at least Smooth Sailin', that's when the Isley Brothers were The Isley Brothers.


Agreed.

I loveeeee "Smooth Sailin'". My father used to play that album to death!
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Reply #36 posted 02/14/10 10:52am

phunkdaddy

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diamondpearl1 said:

phunkdaddy said:

I was blown away by Ernie's solo on Sensitive Lover too when
i first saw the video and was inspired to buy the album. I had
never bought an Isley brother album without Ernie playing on it.
I was saddened and shocked to learn what happened to Marvin
after the Mission to Please album. I did buy the Eternal cd
because Ernie laid some licks down on that album and their
was only one R.Kelly produced song. I dug Move Your Body a lot
which was reminiscent of some of the Isleys 70's songs with
Ernie laying the licks on it.


Ya know after readin your thoughts on Eternal I just might have 2 go and get that album lol Hell the way it looks with Ron and Ernie not playin together right now, it just might be that "last classic Isley album" I was talkin about


Warning: It's mostly a ballad album but the good thing is it's only
one R.Kelly track. Most of the songs were produced by Jam and Lewis
and Raphael Saadiq. Move Your Body and Ernie's Jam are the most uptempo
cuts on the album but Ernie lays licks on these two tracks,Secret Lover,
You Didn't See Me,and he plays on a couple of others. I also dig the
track they have with Jill Scott called You Said. It also contains a
great cover of Chic's Warm Summer Night with vocals added to it.
[Edited 2/14/10 10:56am]
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #37 posted 02/14/10 10:54am

Timmy84

Even with Mission featuring just one Isleys track, the album was really a Ron Isley solo album with Angela Winbush providing production for most of them (along Kellz, Babyface and Keith Sweat). Mainly the records since tried to recall most of the balladry (and Ron's softening vocals) that was always imitated in hip-hop samples.
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Reply #38 posted 02/14/10 11:10am

Identity

Ernie's solo effort, 'High Wire', was so awful that I nearly committed hara-kiri
after one listen. Ronald's Mr Big persona is tired and passe. The brothers need to get back to good songwriting, funk and balladeering.
[Edited 2/14/10 11:13am]
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Reply #39 posted 02/14/10 11:34am

paisleypark4

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vainandy said:

They need to just go ahead and retire because that sellout bullshit they've been making is a disgrace to the great work they did in the past and puts a stain on their name when it is brought up.



I was just thinking that.

They havent done nothing really but make slow ballads don't nobody got no time for that shit right now its 2010. Youngins are funkier than them now.
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #40 posted 02/14/10 11:44am

theAudience

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Timmy84 said:

To me this will always BE the Isley Brothers:


When Jimi Hendrix was their guitarist...



...Testify (in some circles, argued as one of the first FUNK records)




...Move Over Let Me Dance



Supposedly this was also a song recorded while Jimi was in the band...



...The Last Girl (I don't hear it, but whatever)



Music for adventurous listeners



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Reply #41 posted 02/14/10 11:49am

Harlepolis

If Ernie made an album in the same vein as Jesse Johnson's Bare My Naked Soul or even Verbal Penetration, I'll be SO content.
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Reply #42 posted 02/14/10 11:53am

Timmy84

I think this is the "real" Part 1 of "Testify", part 2 was mainly Ron playing around imitating the soul stars of the time (Ray, James, Jackie, Stevie, etc.) while Rudy kept announcing "them" lol

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Reply #43 posted 02/14/10 12:01pm

diamondpearl1

paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

They need to just go ahead and retire because that sellout bullshit they've been making is a disgrace to the great work they did in the past and puts a stain on their name when it is brought up.



I was just thinking that.

They havent done nothing really but make slow ballads don't nobody got no time for that shit right now its 2010. Youngins are funkier than them now.


I think now some of us are feelin the way our parents felt in the mid 80's-early 90's when hip-hop and new jack swing came in and took all the money and attention off the table. lol
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Reply #44 posted 02/14/10 12:09pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

To me this will always BE the Isley Brothers:


When Jimi Hendrix was their guitarist...



...Testify (in some circles, argued as one of the first FUNK records)




...Move Over Let Me Dance



Supposedly this was also a song recorded while Jimi was in the band...



...The Last Girl (I don't hear it, but whatever)



Music for adventurous listeners



tA

peace Tribal Records


Since "Testify" was recorded in 1964, I can guarantee that that assumption of it being one of the first funk records is correct. "Testify" was released the same year JB put out "Outta Sight".
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Reply #45 posted 02/14/10 12:09pm

Timmy84

It's shocking how young Ron Isley was when the Isleys began to make their mark. Only 18 when "Shout" came out he was still only 23 when "Testify" was recorded. You think with his voice he had already done it for 20 years by the time Jimi came to record with them.
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Reply #46 posted 02/14/10 12:14pm

theAudience

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Timmy84 said:

I think this is the "real" Part 1 of "Testify", part 2 was mainly Ron playing around imitating the soul stars of the time (Ray, James, Jackie, Stevie, etc.) while Rudy kept announcing "them" lol


Their In The Beginning release lists that ^ as the "alternate take".
However, it's the 3rd track on the disc (the "official" take the 9th). Who knows.



Music for adventurous listeners



tA

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Reply #47 posted 02/14/10 12:17pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

I think this is the "real" Part 1 of "Testify", part 2 was mainly Ron playing around imitating the soul stars of the time (Ray, James, Jackie, Stevie, etc.) while Rudy kept announcing "them" lol


Their In The Beginning release lists that ^ as the "alternate take".
However, it's the 3rd track on the disc (the "official" take the 9th). Who knows.



Music for adventurous listeners



tA

peace Tribal Records


Interesting. Either way, all versions of it do have a proto-funk approach to it. It was gospel-blues-soul-rock-R&B all mixed in some gumbo shit lol

I don't even know if the original Isley Brothers knew exactly what they were doing when they created this masterpiece (which happened to just featured a young Jimi). But they probably were just doing it for fun (as the "official" part 1 and part 2 versions indicated with Rudy and Ron).
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Reply #48 posted 02/14/10 12:32pm

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Timmy84 said:


Interesting. Either way, all versions of it do have a proto-funk approach to it. It was gospel-blues-soul-rock-R&B all mixed in some gumbo shit lol

I don't even know if the original Isley Brothers knew exactly what they were doing when they created this masterpiece (which happened to just featured a young Jimi). But they probably were just doing it for fun (as the "official" part 1 and part 2 versions indicated with Rudy and Ron).

It's more than likely an example of what their live performance was like at the time.




Music for adventurous listeners



tA

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Reply #49 posted 02/14/10 12:33pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:


Interesting. Either way, all versions of it do have a proto-funk approach to it. It was gospel-blues-soul-rock-R&B all mixed in some gumbo shit lol

I don't even know if the original Isley Brothers knew exactly what they were doing when they created this masterpiece (which happened to just featured a young Jimi). But they probably were just doing it for fun (as the "official" part 1 and part 2 versions indicated with Rudy and Ron).

It's more than likely an example of what their live performance was like at the time.




Music for adventurous listeners



tA

peace Tribal Records


Yeah. James Brown once commented that when the Isleys opened for him they were jumping from the raptors like Tarzan (I think that's what he said) and they were the openers. They nearly stole the show from him lol The Isleys were one wild bunch even when they joined Motown, they couldn't be contained by the Motown system. I bet Motown artists were deeply upset when Ron, Rudy and Kelly would hit the stage because they were more raw than they were.
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