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Reply #210 posted 02/18/10 4:07pm

Timmy84



lol

To the original poster, if u want, I can redo this thread and leave the Jackson thing out. cool

Of course be less replies and views but fuck it. cool
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Reply #211 posted 02/18/10 4:18pm

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kenny88 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

First off, this is my favorite Jody song.
Secondly, Jody was a good artist and we don't even need to discuss the undisputable talents of Mr. Cymone.
Thirdly, WTF is this Jody vs. Janet shit? You can tell the younguns on here. Let me reassure you all that no one was having the "Jody is ripping off Janet" conversation in 86-87. NO ONE. This is some retrospectively viewing pulled-out-of-the-ass commentary. Jody was high fashion/classy. Janet was "hip". Jody was avant garde R&B and Janet was pop. If you could take this thread conversation back to 87, everbody would laugh at it.


I wouldn't call what Jody was doing avant garde. Yes, she imitated Grace Jone's vocals but that doesn't dub her as avant garde. Plus her fashion was very Madonna. Janet was more than "hip" smile

I'm just rambling now lol

This thread should be locked

Nobody would have been comparing Jody to Madonna in 1987.
Like I said, this is some more retrospective comparison shit. When you review anything cultural without knowing the tone of the culture at the moment, you get threads like this. I was a kid back then. I know what was going on with the music and culture. I'm guessing you didn't.
And Janet was hip but the music world didn't circle around her.
When Still A Thrill came out, NOTHING on the radio at the time sounded like it. That makes it a bit avant-garde in my book. It was avant-garde R&B for the time period.
People always try to twist stuff up AFTER THE FACT.
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Reply #212 posted 02/18/10 4:28pm

kenny88

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kenny88 said:



I wouldn't call what Jody was doing avant garde. Yes, she imitated Grace Jone's vocals but that doesn't dub her as avant garde. Plus her fashion was very Madonna. Janet was more than "hip" smile

I'm just rambling now lol

This thread should be locked

Nobody would have been comparing Jody to Madonna in 1987.
Like I said, this is some more retrospective comparison shit. When you review anything cultural without knowing the tone of the culture at the moment, you get threads like this. I was a kid back then. I know what was going on with the music and culture. I'm guessing you didn't.
And Janet was hip but the music world didn't circle around her.
When Still A Thrill came out, NOTHING on the radio at the time sounded like it. That makes it a bit avant-garde in my book. It was avant-garde R&B for the time period.
People always try to twist stuff up AFTER THE FACT.


Oh I did.

And the music world circled around Jody? lol There was nothing like Janet's Control album out at the time reason why artists like Jody followed what she did with that album.

No it's not avant-garde at all. You should look up the definition of avant-garde lol
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Reply #213 posted 02/18/10 4:39pm

funkpill

lawd...rolleyes
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Reply #214 posted 02/18/10 4:44pm

BlaqueKnight

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kenny88 said:


People always try to twist stuff up AFTER THE FACT. [/b]


Oh I did.

And the music world circled around Jody? lol There was nothing like Janet's Control album out at the time reason why artists like Jody followed what she did with that album.

No it's not avant-garde at all. You should look up the definition of avant-garde lol[/quote]
You're obviously one of those Janet-obsessed fanboys. YOUR musical world circled around Janet. R&B is bigger than Janet, bigger than Jody and had a broader span in 86-87 than just those two artists. If you actually did compare Jody to Madonna in 87, you know damn well you were in the minority. That wasn't even a topic of discussion back then.
Most Madonna fans didn't give a damn about Jody Watley until she started doing more full-on dance music oriented material.
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Reply #215 posted 02/18/10 4:45pm

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funkpill said:

lawd...rolleyes

They fucking up your thread smh
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Reply #216 posted 02/18/10 4:49pm

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Sorry, Funkpill. Jody was the bomb back then and Still A thrill was a hot track. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
Its a Jody thread, not a Jackson/Madonna thread. Some people are just obsessed.
Miss Jody was supermodel cool.
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Reply #217 posted 02/18/10 4:50pm

Timmy84

babybugz said:

funkpill said:

lawd...rolleyes

They fucking up your thread smh


That's why I'm redoing the thread. I'm sure that one won't get any responses because any *famous family* response and I'm already going to let it die lol It's like OK it's alright to mention them but when you do it just to debate/argue/rant on and on and on and on threads lose any sense of anything.

The ORG is infamous for off-topic banter. evillol
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Reply #218 posted 02/18/10 4:50pm

Timmy84

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Sorry, Funkpill. Jody was the bomb back then and Still A thrill was a hot track. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
Its a Jody thread, not a Jackson/Madonna thread. Some people are just obsessed.
Miss Jody was supermodel cool.


Post on my re-do (scroll down). lol Just don't mention the other stars, mention just Jody. smile
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Reply #219 posted 02/18/10 4:51pm

kenny88

BlaqueKnight said:


You're obviously one of those Janet-obsessed fanboys. YOUR musical world circled around Janet. R&B is bigger than Janet, bigger than Jody and had a broader span in 86-87 than just those two artists. If you actually did compare Jody to Madonna in 87, you know damn well you were in the minority. That wasn't even a topic of discussion back then.
Most Madonna fans didn't give a damn about Jody Watley until she started doing more full-on dance music oriented material.


You're wrong. I'm not obsessed with Janet. Yes, I'm a fan but I'm not obsessed with her. Why are you turning this into a personal issue? Someone sounds imitated. lol I'm sure where this wasn't a discussion in your neighborhood or whatever but it was brought up by critics and music listeners.
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Reply #220 posted 02/18/10 5:02pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

First off, this is my favorite Jody song.
Secondly, Jody was a good artist and we don't even need to discuss the undisputable talents of Mr. Cymone.
Thirdly, WTF is this Jody vs. Janet shit? You can tell the younguns on here. Let me reassure you all that no one was having the "Jody is ripping off Janet" conversation in 86-87. NO ONE. This is some retrospectively viewing pulled-out-of-the-ass commentary. Jody was high fashion/classy. Janet was "hip". Jody was avant garde R&B and Janet was pop. If you could take this thread conversation back to 87, everbody would laugh at it.

Thank you Blaque. I tried to say that im my first post...that if you were there back in the 80's you'd "get it". It is interesting that in hindsight how a young'un might come to these conclusions, but like what you said is a more articulate version of what I was trying to say.
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Reply #221 posted 02/18/10 5:03pm

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:


They fucking up your thread smh


That's why I'm redoing the thread. I'm sure that one won't get any responses because any *famous family* response and I'm already going to let it die lol It's like OK it's alright to mention them but when you do it just to debate/argue/rant on and on and on and on threads lose any sense of anything.

The ORG is infamous for off-topic banter. evillol


Famous family? confused
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Reply #222 posted 02/18/10 5:05pm

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Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:


They fucking up your thread smh


That's why I'm redoing the thread. I'm sure that one won't get any responses because any *famous family* response and I'm already going to let it die lol It's like OK it's alright to mention them but when you do it just to debate/argue/rant on and on and on and on threads lose any sense of anything.

The ORG is infamous for off-topic banter. evillol

I know , but janet might need a sticky now or just change this to jacksons.org because damn
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Reply #223 posted 02/18/10 5:05pm

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Also, as the musicians will note, the sound of Still A Thrill vs. the Control album are two distinct EVOLUTIONS of the Minny sound.

Andre's/Jody is sparser, more guitar based with lots of "space". More "Prince like"

Control is more layered, keyboards, "heavier" sound, More "Time Like".
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Reply #224 posted 02/18/10 5:07pm

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midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:



That's why I'm redoing the thread. I'm sure that one won't get any responses because any *famous family* response and I'm already going to let it die lol It's like OK it's alright to mention them but when you do it just to debate/argue/rant on and on and on and on threads lose any sense of anything.

The ORG is infamous for off-topic banter. evillol


Famous family? confused

falloff evillol
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Reply #225 posted 02/18/10 5:10pm

midiscover

babybugz said:

midiscover said:



Famous family? confused

falloff evillol


evillol

I think he means Janet and Michael. ain't no one else in that family famous.

and I'm innocent from this foolery. I'm never the one to bring the beautiful creature's name up in threads not concerning her wink
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Reply #226 posted 02/18/10 5:12pm

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GaryMF said:

BlaqueKnight said:

First off, this is my favorite Jody song.
Secondly, Jody was a good artist and we don't even need to discuss the undisputable talents of Mr. Cymone.
Thirdly, WTF is this Jody vs. Janet shit? You can tell the younguns on here. Let me reassure you all that no one was having the "Jody is ripping off Janet" conversation in 86-87. NO ONE. This is some retrospectively viewing pulled-out-of-the-ass commentary. Jody was high fashion/classy. Janet was "hip". Jody was avant garde R&B and Janet was pop. If you could take this thread conversation back to 87, everbody would laugh at it.

Thank you Blaque. I tried to say that im my first post...that if you were there back in the 80's you'd "get it". It is interesting that in hindsight how a young'un might come to these conclusions, but like what you said is a more articulate version of what I was trying to say.



Quoted for truth. That was my favorite period musically, growing up. It's all I ever really cared about in fact. It was an amazing time in pop. Blaque summed it up perfectly.
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Reply #227 posted 02/18/10 5:13pm

Timmy84

midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:



That's why I'm redoing the thread. I'm sure that one won't get any responses because any *famous family* response and I'm already going to let it die lol It's like OK it's alright to mention them but when you do it just to debate/argue/rant on and on and on and on threads lose any sense of anything.

The ORG is infamous for off-topic banter. evillol


Famous family? confused


Yes. I'm not mentioning the name. lol
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Reply #228 posted 02/18/10 5:13pm

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midiscover said:

babybugz said:


falloff evillol


evillol

I think he means Janet and Michael. ain't no one else in that family famous.

and I'm innocent from this foolery. I'm never the one to bring the beautiful creature's name up in threads not concerning her wink

giggle
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Reply #229 posted 02/18/10 5:13pm

Timmy84

midiscover said:

babybugz said:


falloff evillol


evillol

I think he means Janet and Michael. ain't no one else in that family famous.

and I'm innocent from this foolery. I'm never the one to bring the beautiful creature's name up in threads not concerning her wink


Yeah but you added to it anyways. falloff
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Reply #230 posted 02/18/10 5:23pm

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