scriptgirl said: Didn't they show footage of Rick during Motown 25?
Yeah script they showed an old video clip of Rick's promoting the album "Bustin Out Of L 7even" from 1979, that's all the Punk Funk the audience got that night | |
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What happened to just a plain and simple "I don't know". Unless somebody can present an article, we won't know the actually reason. | |
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Maybe he was on the outs with Berry "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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If I rememeber right he talked about it in his book 'Confessions Of A Super Freak", it's been awhile since I read it. | |
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Rick was too busy scoping, roping, and doping! ![]() | |
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Simple: Rick James was "not ready for prime time". Berry Gordy didn't even bother to invite him. It was more about the roster from the "classic days" but some of the "classic era" artists (like Gladys Knight, Junior Walker, the Marvelettes, etc.) were NOT invited and neither were any of the session musicians. | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: He was fighting Charlie Murphy that night, he couldn't make it.
![]() Music for adventurous listeners tA ![]() "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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theAudience said: LittleBLUECorvette said: He was fighting Charlie Murphy that night, he couldn't make it.
![]() Music for adventurous listeners tA ![]() Check out part 2 beginning at 2:32. ![]() Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Check out part 2 beginning at 2:32.
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vainandy said: Check out part 2 beginning at 2:32. ![]() OH SHIT ![]() "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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vainandy said: Check out part 2 beginning at 2:32. ![]() ![]() I didn't even listen to Pt.2 Figured it was just more Rick rantin' & ravin'. ![]() Music for adventurous listeners tA ![]() [Edited 2/8/10 23:07pm] "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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theAudience said: vainandy said: Check out part 2 beginning at 2:32. ![]() ![]() I didn't even listen to Pt.2 Figured it was just more Rick rantin' & ravin'. ![]() Music for adventurous listeners tA ![]() [Edited 2/8/10 23:07pm] Nope, ropin' and dopin'! ![]() | |
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Timmy84 said: Simple: Rick James was "not ready for prime time". Berry Gordy didn't even bother to invite him. It was more about the roster from the "classic days" but some of the "classic era" artists (like Gladys Knight, Junior Walker, the Marvelettes, etc.) were NOT invited and neither were any of the session musicians.
![]() I'd be willing to bet that he was invited,but chose not to attend,for some reason. | |
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He was probably passed out on Eddie's couch anyway.
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SoulAlive said: Timmy84 said: Simple: Rick James was "not ready for prime time". Berry Gordy didn't even bother to invite him. It was more about the roster from the "classic days" but some of the "classic era" artists (like Gladys Knight, Junior Walker, the Marvelettes, etc.) were NOT invited and neither were any of the session musicians.
![]() I'd be willing to bet that he was invited,but chose not to attend,for some reason. Rick seems to be known for "woodshedding" back in the day; disapearing and just doing his own thing. If this woodshedding notion and his other recreational activities got mixed in together he could have conceiveably disapeared for quite some time. And I think that the feeling of some that Berry would not be down with someone as wild as Rick being the Face of Motown on its 25 Anniversary could have some validity. "Stevie, you gotta see this hat!" What was gonna be next? | |
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allsmutaside said: SoulAlive said: ![]() I'd be willing to bet that he was invited,but chose not to attend,for some reason. Rick seems to be known for "woodshedding" back in the day; disapearing and just doing his own thing. If this woodshedding notion and his other recreational activities got mixed in together he could have conceiveably disapeared for quite some time. And I think that the feeling of some that Berry would not be down with someone as wild as Rick being the Face of Motown on its 25 Anniversary could have some validity. "Stevie, you gotta see this hat!" What was gonna be next? That's probably true ![]() | |
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Timmy84 said: Simple: Rick James was "not ready for prime time". Berry Gordy didn't even bother to invite him. It was more about the roster from the "classic days" but some of the "classic era" artists (like Gladys Knight, Junior Walker, the Marvelettes, etc.) were NOT invited and neither were any of the session musicians.
Yeah I recall watching a documentary and saw that the Funk Brothers were shunned. And actually James Jamerson was there sitting up high in the stands. I think he died not too long after that, nearly penniless. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Rick was a somewhat strange artist for Motown, more rock/hard funk than the slick RnB, so it makes some sense that he wasn't there in terms of the usual Motown sound. DeBarge were seen as a Jackson-like Motown RnB group for the 80s, so they fit in seamlessly. Motown did have a few rock acts over the years, but that's not what you normally associated w/ the label.
If Rick were gonna be on, they'd have probably worked him in w/ the Tempts (I'm guessing), but they performed w/ the Tops who def fit the nostalgic Motown mold this show was going for. On 2nd thought, Adam Ant was there ![]() ![]() [Edited 2/9/10 11:36am] | |
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His crack pipe had other plans. All you others say Hell Yea!! ![]() | |
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Let’s get back to an important point-by the time this aired-was Rick still on about MTV not showing black artists? Because MJ and Prince were mainstays at this point on MTV. My theory is that the whole rant that Rick had against MTV, while legit stemmed more from the fact that Rick knew that while MTV would eventually play MJ and Prince, they would never play him "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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missfee said: Timmy84 said: Simple: Rick James was "not ready for prime time". Berry Gordy didn't even bother to invite him. It was more about the roster from the "classic days" but some of the "classic era" artists (like Gladys Knight, Junior Walker, the Marvelettes, etc.) were NOT invited and neither were any of the session musicians.
Yeah I recall watching a documentary and saw that the Funk Brothers were shunned. And actually James Jamerson was there sitting up high in the stands. I think he died not too long after that, nearly penniless. Yeah he died that August. | |
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Did Berry at least pay funeral expenses? How did he end up broke? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Did Berry at least pay funeral expenses? How did he end up broke?
As far as I know, no. | |
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scriptgirl said: Let’s get back to an important point-by the time this aired-was Rick still on about MTV not showing black artists? Because MJ and Prince were mainstays at this point on MTV. My theory is that the whole rant that Rick had against MTV, while legit stemmed more from the fact that Rick knew that while MTV would eventually play MJ and Prince, they would never play him
The thing is when MTV began, they played Eddy Grant's video and maybe Tina Turner sometimes, but black R&B and funk artists were nowhere on the channel, which Rick complained about this is from the February 19, 1983 issue of Billboard ![]() [Edited 2/9/10 18:17pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Notice the date: February 19, 1983... | |
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scriptgirl said: Didn't they show footage of Rick during Motown 25?
I think ur right! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Bboy-where did you pull that article from? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Bboy-where did you pull that article from?
Google books. I was looking for articles on MJ and found that one ![]() "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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scriptgirl said: Let’s get back to an important point-by the time this aired-was Rick still on about MTV not showing black artists? Because MJ and Prince were mainstays at this point on MTV. My theory is that the whole rant that Rick had against MTV, while legit stemmed more from the fact that Rick knew that while MTV would eventually play MJ and Prince, they would never play him
Rick later pointed out,with some irony,that MTV had no problem playing songs that he wrote and produced for other artists ![]() | |
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SoulAlive said: scriptgirl said: Let’s get back to an important point-by the time this aired-was Rick still on about MTV not showing black artists? Because MJ and Prince were mainstays at this point on MTV. My theory is that the whole rant that Rick had against MTV, while legit stemmed more from the fact that Rick knew that while MTV would eventually play MJ and Prince, they would never play him
Rick later pointed out,with some irony,that MTV had no problem playing songs that he wrote and produced for other artists ![]() MTV execs probably flipped ouot when he caught him in Party All The Time ![]() WHAT! how did he slip in this muthafucka?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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