Okay, so I walk around with this notion, but... I know it was wrong he beat the crap out of Rihannah... but it doesn't take away from the fact that the boy has TALENT. He can SING. He can DANCE. He can ENTERTAIN. Everyone makes mistakes. And his mistake isn't going to stop me from buying his album. I do nothing professionally. I only do things for fun. johnart: Acrylic's old bras is where tits of all sizes go to frolic after they die. Tit Heaven. | |
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midiscover said: missfee said: For real. If you look at how many "unknown" women James Brown beat (and one known, Tammy Terrell was one of victims too, perhaps she wasn't famous enough for people to care), the women Jimi Hendrix beat, and countless other male superstars whose careers are now lengendary, no one talks about that...but because Chris Brown decided to punch a pop princess, then all of sudden, he's worst than a pedophile in most people's eyes and I just don't get that. If James Brown had dated and beat up on Diana Ross, would his career had survived that???? Surely if R.Kelly was forgiven for something that was clearly recorded and clearly wrong, which I think in hindsight was far much worse than what Chris Brown did, then Chris Brown can be forgiven and his career will eventually recover. [Edited 2/6/10 16:47pm] You can't compare the two. One is an established act, fanbase is a completey different demographic. Plus what he was accused of allegedly doing with an unknown prostitute isn't half as bad as a young rising star that beat up his more famous girlfriend. Umm yeah I can compare the two. Two stars who made bad decisions. It does make a difference, but its sick to know you think that somehow recorded sexual acts with a minor "isn't half as bad" as a young rising star punching his "pop star" girlfriend. wow. Anyway, my opinion is this in regards to the topic, if Chris works hard enough, his career WILL recover, whether if most don't like it or not. [Edited 2/6/10 17:57pm] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Acrylic said: Okay, so I walk around with this notion, but... I know it was wrong he beat the crap out of Rihannah... but it doesn't take away from the fact that the boy has TALENT. He can SING. He can DANCE. He can ENTERTAIN. Everyone makes mistakes. And his mistake isn't going to stop me from buying his album.
That's what I'm saying, who are any of us to judge? No one is perfect. At least he's young enough to recover from his bad decisions and learn from it. But you know on the org, people are going to judge regardless I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: midiscover said: You can't compare the two. One is an established act, fanbase is a completey different demographic. Plus what he was accused of allegedly doing with an unknown prostitute isn't half as bad as a young rising star that beat up his more famous girlfriend. Umm yeah I can compare the two. Two stars who made bad decisions. It does make a difference, but its sick to know you think that somehow recorded sexual acts with a minor "isn't half as bad" as a young rising star punching his "pop star" girlfriend. wow. Me? The public that thinks that. lol! Maybe you should get over the fact that there are artists (James Brown, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, MJ, etc. etc.) that got away with things because their core fan base is strong. Chris never had a strong core fan base. His core fan base are teen females that are top 40 listeners. So they could easily sway to liking another artist. It doesn't help that he's a mediocre artist with an okay back catalog. | |
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R Kelly and Chris are equally wrong "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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BklynBabe said: but his song is still more appropriate to the occasion than Halo....
I agree with Layzie 100% 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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missfee said: babybugz said: As the most hated artist. But he can come back he didn't beat nobody up but he fucked with america's sweetheart just as bad. [Edited 2/5/10 20:38pm] Nothing has really happened to Kanye's career that I can see. He's still successful...asshole or not, he still holds an impressive fan base..with me included. Hell, when I told people at work I was seeing Kanye live in 2008, they were telling me he was an asshole. Nothing changed. | |
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missfee said: The only reason why people hard on him is because the one female he hit in the face just so happened to be a famous pop singer, if it wasn't Rhianna and some unknown girlfriend he had, it wouldn't have affected his career. Sad but true. Not true. I could give less than a damn about Rihanna's no singing ass so how famous the woman he hit is irrelevant to me. A local disc jockey here beat the crap out of his girlfriend (not famous) and I stopped listening to him, period. | |
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missfee said: Acrylic said: Okay, so I walk around with this notion, but... I know it was wrong he beat the crap out of Rihannah... but it doesn't take away from the fact that the boy has TALENT. He can SING. He can DANCE. He can ENTERTAIN. Everyone makes mistakes. And his mistake isn't going to stop me from buying his album.
That's what I'm saying, who are any of us to judge? No one is perfect. At least he's young enough to recover from his bad decisions and learn from it. But you know on the org, people are going to judge regardless | |
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midiscover said: missfee said: Umm yeah I can compare the two. Two stars who made bad decisions. It does make a difference, but its sick to know you think that somehow recorded sexual acts with a minor "isn't half as bad" as a young rising star punching his "pop star" girlfriend. wow. Me? The public that thinks that. lol! Maybe you should get over the fact that there are artists (James Brown, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, MJ, etc. etc.) that got away with things because their core fan base is strong. Chris never had a strong core fan base. His core fan base are teen females that are top 40 listeners. So they could easily sway to liking another artist. It doesn't help that he's a mediocre artist with an okay back catalog. Actually I'm not stuck on it, I brought it up to make a point. But since you hell bent on being a judgemental hater I'll let you believe that your opinion is fact. Have a great day! I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: midiscover said: Me? The public that thinks that. lol! Maybe you should get over the fact that there are artists (James Brown, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, MJ, etc. etc.) that got away with things because their core fan base is strong. Chris never had a strong core fan base. His core fan base are teen females that are top 40 listeners. So they could easily sway to liking another artist. It doesn't help that he's a mediocre artist with an okay back catalog. Actually I'm not stuck on it, I brought it up to make a point. But since you hell bent on being a judgemental hater I'll let you believe that your opinion is fact. Have a great day! !! | |
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mancabdriver said: Layzie said: But not all of them rearranges a persons face. No one battered an eyelid when Jay Z was caught on camera slapping a girl. I'm far from being a Chris Brown fan nor am i defending him. I'm just stating that people are Hypocrites. Yep.. Rhianna's hype, and the fact that White America loves her... Well, before this current CD.. C-Brown... Grammy Night... | |
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I thought his album would be really popular on the org considering how many orgers either sympathised with him or blamed Rihanna. | |
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purplesweat said: I thought his album would be really popular on the org considering how many orgers either sympathised with him or blamed Rihanna. | |
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purplesweat said: I thought his album would be really popular on the org considering how many orgers either sympathised with him or blamed Rihanna.
They're equivalent for me: I only like two songs on each of their albums. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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purplesweat said: I thought his album would be really popular on the org considering how many orgers either sympathised with him or blamed Rihanna.
Are you f***ing kidding me?!? I thought there were wrongs on both parts. Chris should have never hit Rhianna. And Rhianna should have never hit Chris (if that was ever true). As a matter of fact, I was one of the few orgers that was hoping for Chris to serve some prison time, 90 days at the very least. But this dude only receive 3 years probation & 12 weeks of community service. | |
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Vendetta1 said: missfee said: The only reason why people hard on him is because the one female he hit in the face just so happened to be a famous pop singer, if it wasn't Rhianna and some unknown girlfriend he had, it wouldn't have affected his career. Sad but true. Not true. I could give less than a damn about Rihanna's no singing ass so how famous the woman he hit is irrelevant to me. A local disc jockey here beat the crap out of his girlfriend (not famous) and I stopped listening to him, period.Is that fool still on the air? hmm. | |
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What DJ are you talking about? I also wanted Chris locked up "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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TonyVanDam said: purplesweat said: I thought his album would be really popular on the org considering how many orgers either sympathised with him or blamed Rihanna.
Are you f***ing kidding me?!? I thought there were wrongs on both parts. Chris should have never hit Rhianna. And Rhianna should have never hit Chris (if that was ever true). As a matter of fact, I was one of the few orgers that was hoping for Chris to serve some prison time, 90 days at the very least. But this dude only receive 3 years probation & 12 weeks of community service. I didn't say you specifically, chill!! A lot defended, but a lot didn't either. | |
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scriptgirl said: What DJ are you talking about? I also wanted Chris locked up "Crazy" Howard McGee. And TD3, he was gone for a long time and now he's back on 106.3. | |
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missfee said: lastdecember said: Exactly! i hear things all the time from girls that work on the set of rap/rb music videos and they tell about altercations,sexual harrassment etc...but no one cares because they are viewed as nothing more than video ho's, and if one gets punched by _____ (insert whomever) then no one really cares, and odds are they will blame her for "bringing it on" or "asking for it because thats what goes on" For real. If you look at how many "unknown" women James Brown beat (and one known, Tammy Terrell was one of victims too, perhaps she wasn't famous enough for people to care), the women Jimi Hendrix beat, and countless other male superstars whose careers are now lengendary, no one talks about that...but because Chris Brown decided to punch a pop princess, then all of sudden, he's worst than a pedophile in most people's eyes and I just don't get that. If James Brown had dated and beat up on Diana Ross, would his career had survived that???? Surely if R.Kelly was forgiven for something that was clearly recorded and clearly wrong, which I think in hindsight was far much worse than what Chris Brown did, then Chris Brown can be forgiven and his career will eventually recover. [Edited 2/6/10 16:47pm] Your right in some ways. But I'm a fan of Chris & R Kelly. They both had different images. R kelly had a sexual bad boy image. So it really wasn't a surprise when that happen. It was already known he had a hot romance & married underage rest her soul Aaliyah. Chris image was squeaky clean. It was just a shock to everyone when he did that to her. I thought that his cd would do better than it did. But I guess its too soon. But I do agree that other artist did worse things then him and came back. But R kelly is more talented as a writer and composer and his songs just were to good to be ignored. I always say your one hit away from a comeback. Chris just needs that mega hit to bring him back. But his lastest release was sabotaged . I think by his own label. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: I always say your one hit away from a comeback. Chris just needs that mega hit to bring him back. But his lastest release was sabotaged . I think by his own label.[/b] BULL SHIT Chris Album was front and center at the best buy I went to, and there is no reason a label would sabotage an album when they could make money. Chris just twatted that to get some buzz and sympathy and hopefully more album sales. Digital sales should be proof of this, his album barely reached the top ten in Itunes. The people chose not to buy that album. Transform ya was a good single, even I was tempted to put it on repeat despite how much I hate him, but like many others I just said no to support of a domestic abuser. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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lastdecember said: I blame all this kind of talk on the net. Would this kind of thought exist back in the 80's? would we get threads that were called "can vanity get her career back". The thing is there is so much focus on this nonsense, whos hot whos not whos this whos that. I dont think people realize this, but no one is moving, music is not a relevant thing anymore, i dont care who you are, its not the focus, why do you think Beyonce has perfume,clothing,books,magazines etc...because the music is not a money maker for her. If you dont tour and play shows you have no career, case closed. I dont care how much your album sold or how many times mtv plays your video, if you cant put "asses" in seats at a show on a constant basis, you are nothing.
I agree. I recently went to a sold-out show by a group called STS9 and no one in the audience seemed to care that the group never had an album crack the Top 200 or had a hit single. The group was voted the 19th touring act of 2008 or some year. | |
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There is always going to be a huge double standard with what "someone has done" and "what someone does now" its just that simple. John F Kennedy could bang about 30 women on the side and no one cared, but if Obama or Clinton did that now it would bring them down to their knees and doing mea culpa's on Oprah and Dr. Phil. All these dudes in the business had some sort of violence or sexism or u name it towards women, but back then no one cared because it wasnt the YOUTUBE and TMZ era, now we get off on seeing thhis shit 24/7, we hope and pray for someone to punch the shit out of someone so we can debate it and then watch peoples lives crumble, we like this stuff, or the media likes to feed us this stuff because it makes us take our eyes off the ball and ignore the real elephant in the room. I can almost guarantee you that James Brown and Rick James and Jimi Hendrix and Axl Rose and Brett Michaels and Nikki Sixx andcountless others made "hookers" disappear one way or another, and no one cares about a hooker because to us they arent human beings, a chick in a music video to us is a ho, and if some rapper pisses on her, we say "well she asked for it" and "thats what she gets for being in a video", the double standard is always there, one that makes tiger woods a "victim" and his wife "wrong" for seeking money and custody of her kids. Go fucking figure "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: There is always going to be a huge double standard with what "someone has done" and "what someone does now" its just that simple. John F Kennedy could bang about 30 women on the side and no one cared, but if Obama or Clinton did that now it would bring them down to their knees and doing mea culpa's on Oprah and Dr. Phil. All these dudes in the business had some sort of violence or sexism or u name it towards women, but back then no one cared because it wasnt the YOUTUBE and TMZ era, now we get off on seeing thhis shit 24/7, we hope and pray for someone to punch the shit out of someone so we can debate it and then watch peoples lives crumble, we like this stuff, or the media likes to feed us this stuff because it makes us take our eyes off the ball and ignore the real elephant in the room. I can almost guarantee you that James Brown and Rick James and Jimi Hendrix and Axl Rose and Brett Michaels and Nikki Sixx andcountless others made "hookers" disappear one way or another, and no one cares about a hooker because to us they arent human beings, a chick in a music video to us is a ho, and if some rapper pisses on her, we say "well she asked for it" and "thats what she gets for being in a video", the double standard is always there, one that makes tiger woods a "victim" and his wife "wrong" for seeking money and custody of her kids. Go fucking figure
I highly doubt anyone was waiting for Chris to attempt to kill Rihanna. Please. This whole post is a little over the top. No one forgave R Kelly for what he did, and hardly any are forgiving Chris Brown for what he did. There's always gonna be ppl on the wrong side of the argument, we're just more aware of it now. | |
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midiscover said: He honestly sounds like crap.
He's through. His core audience is young females and after that whole incident a majority of them left. I don't see them coming back LMAO! After seeing his album cover and some promo shots I think he's courting a brand new demographic! When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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HonestMan13 said: midiscover said: He honestly sounds like crap.
He's through. His core audience is young females and after that whole incident a majority of them left. I don't see them coming back LMAO! After seeing his album cover and some promo shots I think he's courting a brand new demographic! HA!! | |
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IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!!
chris might have a few fans. but he won't ever be on top and have that respect. Plus he is a disposable artist anyways. Im surprised he was around this long. He has a few more years until people forget about him. | |
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HonestMan13 said: midiscover said: He honestly sounds like crap.
He's through. His core audience is young females and after that whole incident a majority of them left. I don't see them coming back LMAO! After seeing his album cover and some promo shots I think he's courting a brand new demographic! Indeed! | |
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