Jill crazy? Really? In an artistic way or just plain out there?
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scriptgirl said:

From the stories I've heard from first-hand sources, they say it's a little "artistic crazy" and some "loony tunes" crazy. They say overall, she's pretty sweet, but is "out there".

daPrettyman said:

Yeah, but what artist isn't "out there" a little bit? Normal people don't make great music. Have we forgotten what site we're on, and who it's about?????

daPrettyman said:

And instead of all that craziness creeping into her music and blowing our minds with it,,,,we end up with Prozac induced shit

Great voice, I can't say it enough, but I'm STILL waiting for the kick ass material(emphasis on KICK ASS ).

sort of threadjack: i'm really enjoying jill and aniki rose (?) in the no. 1 ladies' detective series. i'm watching it through netflix. if you've ever read the books, you'll know that aniki nails mma. matusi (sp?) so well. i imagined precious ramotswe to be more serious, but jill's portrayal of her is still good.

end of threadjack.

daPrettyman said:

That's what I'm thinking too. She may be ready to sign with a major. Sometimes the grass isn't always greener on the otherside though. However, at this stage of the game, she should know what's best for her career. She seems to be a smart lady, let's see what happens....

If the "major label" is current-day Motown, I have a problem. lol

See.....it came back.

Who in their right mind today would sign a 6 album deal with anyone??? indie or major you basically are signing your life away

lastdecember said:

Come on now, that's nonsense. HB was a new label, and the worst Jill had to worry about at the time was it going under, but even after her first record's success, if the label had folded, she could have easily found another company. But to stay with someone and put out six albums, not such a bad thing. Some artists get signed for 5 albums off the bat. If Jill had released things a tad more frequently, she could have been through those six albums by now. Her first was 2000. If she released something just every 2 years...

2000 - 1
2002 - 2
2004 - 3
2006 - 4
2008 - 5
2010 - 6 DONE!

But she didn't, and now she's wanting to go elsewhere. She had enough unreleased stuff for the 826+ album that she could have put together another new album and gotten one more off the list. But those kind of compilation and live albums don't count for a record contract.

I'm not blaming her, but again.....it's business. I wonder if she had a bad deal that she never renegotiated, like Toni Braxton did and was afraid of ending up broke.

This has to be tough. Her baby was born last April, and she split w/ her new hubby in June. I balked a bit at her statement that the lawsuit had "no merit". That either means, she believes she's delivered six albums per the contract (makes me wonder IF those compilations, and live albums and Collaborations counted as part of the six), OR she's not found a record contract elsewhere, and intends to stay at HB, and maybe HB is jumping the shark on this one.

Wait, I thought Jill didn't marry that guy-so that makes 2 ex hubbies for her?

scriptgirl said:

After checking, it seems they were engaged, and had the baby, but never married. So only 1 divorce.

I just noticed something. Jill has released 6 albums. It sounds like her label is trying to force her to stay.

ernestsewell said:

Well thats the thing she signed in 2000, many will still IGNORANT to the ways of the business, everyone be it indie or major or an indie attatched to a major same shit different day. Six albums is a big deal in this day an age, because labels dont want one a year, unless you are some Britney or Rihanna, but others they want them to take time, spending 10 years at a label if the deal sucks is not a positive thing. My guess is that she went for the payday in 2000 and now sees the business at an indie is just as bad and wants that "push" that only a major can give her. But lets be real, Angie Stone didnt get a push at a major why would Jill in todays climate. No one should be signing deals like this, anyone advising them to do so has no clue about the business today

BlaqueKnight said:

BlaqueKnight said:

She will most likely be let go for a cost, like Prince was, though peeps dont like to admit it, that 125million dollar deal that Prince signed in 1992 for 7 albums, got turned into 15 million for 7 albums when all was said and done, but he kept his publishing for the loss of that money. Indie labels are just as bad because most are attatched to majors, Koch is the worst one.

lastdecember said:

"my publishing.....what a laugh".

That deal also entailed him selling a certain amount of records, THEN getting a bonus lump sum of a few million after that. He had to sell like 5,000,000 to get a bonus. He hadn't been selling that number for a while. Those are some of the "terms" that he didn't like.

BlaqueKnight said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Well he did do the 7 owed, just not the way they wanted them.

,Love Symbol,Come,GoldExperience,Girl6,Chaos,Vault,and the Ultimate Collection with the mixes, closed it up.

ernestsewell said:

Well his publishing is a little bit more important than Jill Scotts will be to her, he still gets alot of airplay with oldies, thats all money in the bank, even if he doesnt like the fact he doesnt own master recordings he is half the way there.

And for the record the whole "Prince shutting down" his YouTube stuff, he has no say or control of that, that is WB, they have done it with alot, they have most recently done it, with various a-ha work when they were with WB in the states.

daPrettyman said:

Those all came out on Hidden Beach too.

Cinnie said:

Yes, but live albums typically do not count toward a contract's set amount of records. They said she bailed HALFway through, which means they are only counting Volume 1, 2, 3 and of Words and Sounds. Experience 826+, Collaborations, and Live In Paris won't count, obviously. If they did, they would have said she still own AN album, or something similar.

I doubt any record label will be good to her as HB was though.

BlaqueKnight said:

Harlepolis said:

Time will tell. I think a lot of record labels have no idea how to market neo-soul artists. It's not "box" enough for them.

For those who missed it on the alternative thread, Jill is challenging the lawsuit:


Jill Scott Responds to Hidden Beach Lawsuit
Feb 5, 2010



This is a statement from the representatives of Jill Scott:

"The lawsuit filed on February 3, 2010 by Hidden Beach Recordings against Jill Scott has no legal merit and misrepresents the history of Ms. Scott's relationship with the label.

Jill Scott has the legal right to terminate her recording contract with Hidden Beach Recordings under California's 7-year rule, where she had been a recording artist for more than 10 years. During her time at Hidden Beach Recordings, she released several highly successful albums. At this time, with many creative projects in the works which include music, film and television roles and product development, Ms. Scott looks forward to continuing to further her artistry and building the Jill Scott brand in other creative environments."


http://www.prnewswire.com...30102.html

ernestsewell said:

It depends though, some labels count it, you can sometimes give a label a BEST OF to close out your deal, example Britney Spears "Hits" that came out in November closed out her contract with them. Inxs back in the 90's closed out their WB deal with a best of but had to put a new track on it. So it varies, some contracts state STUDIO ALBUMS some Say RELEASE RECORDINGS.

kibbles said:

They need to make more! I love that show!!!