amit1234 said: When was this pic taken again?
He looks so happy....love it. It was taken when Mj was in the middle east and particularly in Oman in 2006-2007 I think..... MICHAEL JACKSON
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ViintageJunkiie said: I know someone is going to hate me for this, but can we honestly say that MJ was "murdered"? I mean, look at all the other pills he was taking. It's possible that the Propofol could have had a bad reaction to another drug. I just can't put all the blame on Murray for this.
I mean, even Janet admitted that Michael had a drug problem. Who knows. If MJ was only taking Propofol and NOT the other drug combinations he was using, he might still be here. We'll never know [Edited 2/10/10 16:36pm] I guess you and me are going to be on the same boat I do believe he had drug problems at one point but this is not what he died from but I do agree with you. That's why i'm staying away from Michael threads and the forums because my head is always hurting from this situation...lol [Edited 2/12/10 16:00pm] | |
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babybugz said: ViintageJunkiie said: I know someone is going to hate me for this, but can we honestly say that MJ was "murdered"? I mean, look at all the other pills he was taking. It's possible that the Propofol could have had a bad reaction to another drug. I just can't put all the blame on Murray for this.
I mean, even Janet admitted that Michael had a drug problem. Who knows. If MJ was only taking Propofol and NOT the other drug combinations he was using, he might still be here. We'll never know [Edited 2/10/10 16:36pm] I guess you and me are going to be on the same boat I do believe he had drug problems at one point but this is not what he died from but I do agree with you. That's why i'm staying away from Michael threads and the forums because my head is always hurting from this situation...lol [Edited 2/12/10 16:00pm] You should've been on TUMBLR, we were cussing Quincy out. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: I guess you and me are going to be on the same boat I do believe he had drug problems at one point but this is not what he died from but I do agree with you. That's why i'm staying away from Michael threads and the forums because my head is always hurting from this situation...lol [Edited 2/12/10 16:00pm] You should've been on TUMBLR, we were cussing Quincy out. Quincy Jones??For what . For what he said?? I do believe that Quincy was UPSET that michael is no longer here with us. Sometimes when you are upset you say things you don't mean still he could have refrain from what he said before.I do believe he cared about michael though. | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: You should've been on TUMBLR, we were cussing Quincy out. Quincy Jones??For what . For what he said?? I do believe that Quincy was UPSET that michael is no longer here with us. Sometimes when you are upset you say things you don't mean still he could have refrain from what he said before.I do believe he cared about michael though. Yeah right. Then why he allowed Mad TV to run sketches attacking Mike for? He executive produced the show. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: Quincy Jones??For what . For what he said?? I do believe that Quincy was UPSET that michael is no longer here with us. Sometimes when you are upset you say things you don't mean still he could have refrain from what he said before.I do believe he cared about michael though. Yeah right. Then why he allowed Mad TV to run sketches attacking Mike for? He executive produced the show. Who knows maybe something went down in their relationship we didn't know about it's not funny either the same can be said for Diana Ross . The fans were mad she didn't go to the funeral etc people have their reasons. The fans overdo it too much. I'm not making excuses for quincy or whoever I just don't think it's my place to judge and some of the fans need to stay in their lane. [Edited 2/12/10 16:54pm] | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Yeah right. Then why he allowed Mad TV to run sketches attacking Mike for? He executive produced the show. Who knows maybe something went down in their relationship we didn't know about it's not funny either the same can be said for Diana Ross . The fans were mad she didn't go to the funeral etc people have their reasons. The fans overdo it too much. I'm not making excuses for quincy or whoever I just don't think it's my place to judge and some of the fans need to stay in their lane. [Edited 2/12/10 16:54pm] Diana didn't even say anything lol | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: Who knows maybe something went down in their relationship we didn't know about it's not funny either the same can be said for Diana Ross . The fans were mad she didn't go to the funeral etc people have their reasons. The fans overdo it too much. I'm not making excuses for quincy or whoever I just don't think it's my place to judge and some of the fans need to stay in their lane. [Edited 2/12/10 16:54pm] Diana didn't even say anything lol That's not the point the fans still question it. We don't know how michael's relationship in his last years were with these people. I did see diana's son mention something but we are not talking about him. I don't know I think that was uncalled for cursing him out alot of the fans make me ashame to be a fan of michael sometimes it's sad. | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Diana didn't even say anything lol That's not the point the fans still question it. We don't know how michael's relationship in his last years were with these people. I did see diana's son mention something but we are not talking about him. I don't know I think that was uncalled for cursing him out alot of the fans make me ashame to be a fan of michael sometimes it's sad. His relationships with any of them were either neutral or not there. The thing is MJ still held them to respect. Quincy was one of the only ones supposedly in MJ's "circle" to criticize. Yeah we say everything when we're mad but in public? That's too much IMHO. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: That's not the point the fans still question it. We don't know how michael's relationship in his last years were with these people. I did see diana's son mention something but we are not talking about him. I don't know I think that was uncalled for cursing him out alot of the fans make me ashame to be a fan of michael sometimes it's sad. His relationships with any of them were either neutral or not there. The thing is MJ still held them to respect. Quincy was one of the only ones supposedly in MJ's "circle" to criticize. Yeah we say everything when we're mad but in public? That's too much IMHO. It still isn't our place , yeah what he said was uncalled for but the fans just as bad for cursing him out , WTF are we to be cursing him out really and even with talking about Michael family that's why I haven't been going back in that thread because it's always negative. Overdoing it here .And with the Diana thing I remember when it first happen that various places and statement was made saying she was too upset to say anything .And if Quincy wasn't there for michael then that's something he has to live with.*shrugs* [Edited 2/12/10 18:16pm] | |
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I can only hope that he make his peace with him, that's all. I mean yeah maybe we're wrong for cursing him out. But I still shake my head at him. I can't help but be disappointed in him. | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Diana didn't even say anything lol That's not the point the fans still question it. We don't know how michael's relationship in his last years were with these people. I did see diana's son mention something but we are not talking about him. I don't know I think that was uncalled for cursing him out alot of the fans make me ashame to be a fan of michael sometimes it's sad. Well, I was just thinking how bad could his relationship with Diana be in his last years if she's included in his will. | |
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angel345 said: babybugz said: That's not the point the fans still question it. We don't know how michael's relationship in his last years were with these people. I did see diana's son mention something but we are not talking about him. I don't know I think that was uncalled for cursing him out alot of the fans make me ashame to be a fan of michael sometimes it's sad. Well, I was just thinking how bad could his relationship with Diana be in his last years if she's included in his will. [Edited 2/12/10 20:38pm] | |
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Wow, so negative on here... That's why I left MJC... Can't we all just remember the joy and love Michael brought to so many lives and leave the rest alone?! | |
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I love this:
.... "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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babybugz said: ViintageJunkiie said: I know someone is going to hate me for this, but can we honestly say that MJ was "murdered"? I mean, look at all the other pills he was taking. It's possible that the Propofol could have had a bad reaction to another drug. I just can't put all the blame on Murray for this.
I mean, even Janet admitted that Michael had a drug problem. Who knows. If MJ was only taking Propofol and NOT the other drug combinations he was using, he might still be here. We'll never know [Edited 2/10/10 16:36pm] I guess you and me are going to be on the same boat I do believe he had drug problems at one point but this is not what he died from but I do agree with you. That's why i'm staying away from Michael threads and the forums because my head is always hurting from this situation...lol [Edited 2/12/10 16:00pm] 1. Read his autopsy report. He was NOT a drug addict. 2. The other drugs Michael was taking are anesthetics and are, usually, used along with Propofol. They avoid body addiction and resistance. 3. Janet said Michael was "in denial". This means he told his family that he was NOT a drug addict. She said he was a druggie because he was taking Propofol! Propofol is barely an addictive substance and is used to put one to sleep...and she talked about it as if it was coke! 4. Janet never gave a timeframe, didn't say why did he take drugs and barely spoke/saw Michael. Even if he was the biggest junkie on Earth...how would she know it? 5. If he was such a druggie...then why was the family constantly hounding him for reunion tours? 6. The family admitted to have NEVER seen Michael taking drugs or under its effects. They asked him if he was an addict and he answered "no". They base their "he was a junkie" argument on tha fact that Michael kept a distance from them and sometimes didn't want to even see his family. It was not his problem...it was the family's. 7. He had a problem with drugs in 93 for some months. He never had another again. Yet, the family milks the "some-months-addiction-from-17-years-ago" and makes it seem as if Michael was a junkie all these years. And why? *I smell a lawsuit agaisnt AEG and the "we had a junkie relative" argument is the only way the family can sue this company* 8. Michael died from a lethal dose OF PROPOFOL. So your argument about Propofol having bad reactions with other drugs is SIMPLY STUPID. In fact, the other drugs HAVE/ARE MEANT to be used along with Propofol, otherwise the patience might get addicted and gain resistance. 9. It was Murray's fault. 10. I don't hate you: I just see that you know NOTHING about this case. It's impossible to hate ignorance. I just pity it. I hope I'm not being to complex for you! I posted this a while ago...you chose to ignore it. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: I love this:
.... But the media keeps ignoring this. And some fans don't help as well. | |
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MOL said: babybugz said: I guess you and me are going to be on the same boat I do believe he had drug problems at one point but this is not what he died from but I do agree with you. That's why i'm staying away from Michael threads and the forums because my head is always hurting from this situation...lol [Edited 2/12/10 16:00pm] 1. Read his autopsy report. He was NOT a drug addict. 2. The other drugs Michael was taking are anesthetics and are, usually, used along with Propofol. They avoid body addiction and resistance. 3. Janet said Michael was "in denial". This means he told his family that he was NOT a drug addict. She said he was a druggie because he was taking Propofol! Propofol is barely an addictive substance and is used to put one to sleep...and she talked about it as if it was coke! 4. Janet never gave a timeframe, didn't say why did he take drugs and barely spoke/saw Michael. Even if he was the biggest junkie on Earth...how would she know it? 5. If he was such a druggie...then why was the family constantly hounding him for reunion tours? 6. The family admitted to have NEVER seen Michael taking drugs or under its effects. They asked him if he was an addict and he answered "no". They base their "he was a junkie" argument on tha fact that Michael kept a distance from them and sometimes didn't want to even see his family. It was not his problem...it was the family's. 7. He had a problem with drugs in 93 for some months. He never had another again. Yet, the family milks the "some-months-addiction-from-17-years-ago" and makes it seem as if Michael was a junkie all these years. And why? *I smell a lawsuit agaisnt AEG and the "we had a junkie relative" argument is the only way the family can sue this company* 8. Michael died from a lethal dose OF PROPOFOL. So your argument about Propofol having bad reactions with other drugs is SIMPLY STUPID. In fact, the other drugs HAVE/ARE MEANT to be used along with Propofol, otherwise the patience might get addicted and gain resistance. 9. It was Murray's fault. 10. I don't hate you: I just see that you know NOTHING about this case. It's impossible to hate ignorance. I just pity it. I hope I'm not being to complex for you! I posted this a while ago...you chose to ignore it. ok. | |
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You can tell he was such a sweetheart just by looking at pictures.
I wish there was a video from this court deposition cause all the pictures from that day are hilarious. [Edited 2/13/10 10:45am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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did mj ever fully recover from 93 accusation? seems like his message through his music was so clear but it fell on deaf ears or something. still sad about his death , he finaly had his court days behind him and he seemed motivated again ( in a long time) | |
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WaterInYourBath said: I love this:
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motownlover said: did mj ever fully recover from 93 accusation? seems like his message through his music was so clear but it fell on deaf ears or something. still sad about his death , he finaly had his court days behind him and he seemed motivated again ( in a long time)
Still gets me so sad when I think about it. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: You can tell he was such a sweetheart just by looking at pictures.
I wish there was a video from this court deposition cause all the pictures from that day are hilarious. [Edited 2/13/10 10:45am] isnt that frank sinatra on the 4th pic! and who are the ones on the 5th pic Atom Heart Mother | |
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alexothetimes said: isnt that frank sinatra on the 4th pic! and who are the ones on the 5th pic I am not sure about Frank Sinatra, but in the fifth picture it´s his Bad Tour crew, I guess. I don´t know their names, but that chick is Sheryl Crow. [Edited 2/13/10 12:17pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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^^^I LOVE that era (94-98)! That's when he really looked like a real-life comic book action hero. And I mean that in a very good way. He should have done more movies. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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it was cool cuz today i went to the store and saw they had mj t-shirts
there was only two that i really liked and they had a collection box wit the t-shirt too. i just wish they had an all mj store.... [Edited 2/13/10 13:16pm] | |
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poetcorner61 said: Wow, so negative on here... That's why I left MJC... Can't we all just remember the joy and love Michael brought to so many lives and leave the rest alone?!
Everything's cool just the situation making some of us tense and I'm watching this Michael Jackson special on BET he look so happy in blame it on the boogie. | |
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@poetcorner61 don't worry, there's still some happiness here. Like babybugz said, we're just tensed. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: ^^^I LOVE that era (94-98)! That's when he really looked like a real-life comic book action hero. And I mean that in a very good way. He should have done more movies.
He looked just beautiful. I could stare into his eyes for the rest of my life. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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