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ViintageJunkiie said: bboy87 said: I think songwriting wise, he was at his peak at 1984-1994. Dude was writing some good stuff Smooth Criminal Dirty Diana Scared of The Moon Alright Now Joy Black or White Jam Who Is It Liberian Girl Someone Put Your Hand Out Morphine Earth Song Stranger In Moscow The Way You Make Me Feel All of those songs are my JAMS! I still wanna know more about Scared of The Moon. No one seems to have any information on the book he was in the process of writing of the same title (i think it's the same title) I read the lyrics awhile ago Alone she lays waiting
Surrounded by gloom Invaded by shadows Painting the room The light from the window Cuts through the air And pins the child lying there Scared of the moon She pulls up the covers And shivers in fright She hides from the colour That rides on the night The light through the window That lights up the sky And causes her mournful cry Scared of the moon There's nothing wrong Don't be bothered they said It's just childish fantasies turning your head No need to worry It's really too soon But there she lies shivering Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon The years go by swiftly And soon childhood ends But life is still fearful When evening descends The fear of a child Still intrudes the night Returning on beams of light Scared of the moon The feeling of terror She felt as a youth Has turned from a fantasy Into the truth The moon is the enemy Twisting her soul And taking its fearful toll Scared of the moon But now there are others who sit in a room And wait for the sunlight to brighten their gloom Together they gather Their lunacy shade But knowing just why they're scared Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon wow..... the man wrote Little Susie when he was 21! he was writing Lovely One, This Had To Be, Be Not Always, Heartbreak Hotel, and Little Susie during the same time period  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said:[quote] ViintageJunkiie said: I read the lyrics awhile ago Alone she lays waiting
Surrounded by gloom Invaded by shadows Painting the room The light from the window Cuts through the air And pins the child lying there Scared of the moon She pulls up the covers And shivers in fright She hides from the colour That rides on the night The light through the window That lights up the sky And causes her mournful cry Scared of the moon There's nothing wrong Don't be bothered they said It's just childish fantasies turning your head No need to worry It's really too soon But there she lies shivering Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon The years go by swiftly And soon childhood ends But life is still fearful When evening descends The fear of a child Still intrudes the night Returning on beams of light Scared of the moon The feeling of terror She felt as a youth Has turned from a fantasy Into the truth The moon is the enemy Twisting her soul And taking its fearful toll Scared of the moon But now there are others who sit in a room And wait for the sunlight to brighten their gloom Together they gather Their lunacy shade But knowing just why they're scared Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon Scared of the moon wow..... the man wrote Little Susie when he was 21! he was writing Lovely One, This Had To Be, Be Not Always, Heartbreak Hotel, and Little Susie during the same time period Why is that so shocking? | |
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babybugz said: bboy87 said: wow..... the man wrote Little Susie when he was 21! he was writing Lovely One, This Had To Be, Be Not Always, Heartbreak Hotel, and Little Susie during the same time period Why is that so shocking? because at the time, people weren't really looking into his lyrics. I said some months ago that Michael's music, when you look past the achievements and such, you'll see some truly strong material. Thriller had songs about that talked about betrayal, believing in one's self, turning the other cheek and being the bigger person, the complications of fame and temptation. I'm not tryin overrate him or anything, I'm saying he's a great songwriter but no one has really given him credit for that "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: babybugz said: Why is that so shocking? because at the time, people weren't really looking into his lyrics. I said some months ago that Michael's music, when you look past the achievements and such, you'll see some truly strong material. Thriller had songs about that talked about betrayal, believing in one's self, turning the other cheek and being the bigger person, the complications of fame and temptation. I'm not tryin overrate him or anything, I'm saying he's a great songwriter but no one has really given him credit for that Scared of The Moon is no doubt in my mind, one of Michaels BEST ballads. It's so eerie and haunting, yet so innocent. I've always perceived the song as describing a family being scared of the dark. When the moon shines directly in your window, it does give shadows and highlights to the objects in the room. The verse after the first chorus describes the child getting older but still having flashbacks of the images the moon once casted upon the room. The last verse seems to describe the woman's children in the same position. | |
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bboy87 said: babybugz said: Why is that so shocking? because at the time, people weren't really looking into his lyrics. I said some months ago that Michael's music, when you look past the achievements and such, you'll see some truly strong material. Thriller had songs about that talked about betrayal, believing in one's self, turning the other cheek and being the bigger person, the complications of fame and temptation. I'm not tryin overrate him or anything, I'm saying he's a great songwriter but no one has really given him credit for that I been Notice that in his records he's always been sad to me and his songs are sad too. I don't like scared of the moon though maybe I need to listen again. | |
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Am I the only one that don't like Be Not Always I can't stand it  and I never listen to Little Susie , I need to go back and listen to these songs again  | |
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babybugz said: Am I the only one that don't like Be Not Always I can't stand it
and I never listen to Little Susie , I need to go back and listen to these songs again Be Not Always was such an unexpected shift at the time. I remember listening to it over and over because its arrangement is so simple and allows for Michael's soft vocal delivery to step to the fore. Beautiful song. Go back and listen 
Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Swa said: Timmy84 said: Talk about the greatness of this track. I can post more if I feel if I need to. Music's my way of attacking This was the standout track on Blood On The Dancefloor. Everything about it was so un-MJ at the time. It was a lot harder, rawer, the beats were more aligned with Nine Inch Nails than what you would expect from MJ, and the subject matter is sadly telling. Michael was always his most innovative and artistic best when he was exploring his own demons and revealing a personal side. Swa To me, BOTDF has a similar sound to Remember The Time, but of course the two tracks are produced by the same person. | |
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angel345 said: Swa said: This was the standout track on Blood On The Dancefloor. Everything about it was so un-MJ at the time. It was a lot harder, rawer, the beats were more aligned with Nine Inch Nails than what you would expect from MJ, and the subject matter is sadly telling. Michael was always his most innovative and artistic best when he was exploring his own demons and revealing a personal side. Swa To me, BOTDF has a similar sound to Remember The Time, but of course the two tracks are produced by the same person. and was recorded the same year Blood on The Dancefloor was originally for Dangerous"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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babybugz said: bboy87 said: wow..... the man wrote Little Susie when he was 21! he was writing Lovely One, This Had To Be, Be Not Always, Heartbreak Hotel, and Little Susie during the same time period Why is that so shocking? MJ being that young writing deep shit like that lol | |
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 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Priscilla Presley was on Larry King on Thursday and she said Lisa took MJ's death very hard and that they remained friends. | |
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SuperflySister said: WaterInYourBath said: This is so great and rare:
I love the way he says "OOOOOH!" @ 0:07. Haha, he's adorable!  Ahh, yes he is. He was giggling so much 'cause I guess he already knew Debbie most likely was pregnant again at that time. Then Star Jones at the end said to Walters, "That was the scoop!" "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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babybugz said: Am I the only one that don't like Be Not Always I can't stand it
and I never listen to Little Susie , I need to go back and listen to these songs again I adore Little Susie. One of my all time favourite MJ songs. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Timmy84 said: Talk about the greatness of this track. I can post more if I feel if I need to. Music's my way of attacking Can someone help me understand the lyrics. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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babybugz said: Am I the only one that don't like Be Not Always I can't stand it
and I never listen to Little Susie , I need to go back and listen to these songs again Little Susie is one of his most creative efforts, A haunting dark heartfelt melody, its not kind of song you hear on the radio, its not radio friendly and that proves that Mj was just creating music from his heart and was not trying to follow up the sales of any record, many of Mj fans say that little Susie is scary and depressing but I think that's the key of its brilliance….. Plus, it’s a kind of song you appreciate when you get older, I know that sounds weird but it’s the truth, give it few more listens, little Susie is one of his best. MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Talk about the greatness of this track. I can post more if I feel if I need to. Music's my way of attacking And that was post thriller so we do like his music after as well lmfaooo for real....
Enough of those fans who say that anything post thriller is shit, they need to stop talking shit.
I know appreciate everything related to Mj after his death, except the song Privacy MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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bboy87 said: Such a cute picture. | |
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dag said: Timmy84 said: Talk about the greatness of this track. I can post more if I feel if I need to. Music's my way of attacking Can someone help me understand the lyrics. First off don't read them as they are on that video - there are many errors for example "throwing shame" when it is "throwing shade" (MJ loved that phrase "throwing shade to hide your hands") My take is that it is about the pressures he was facing at the time, and the easy escape the drugs offered. It's almost love/hate in the construction of the song. In the "demerol" bridge the music is wistful and dreamy and while the vocals talk of fear and how quickly you can succumb to the drug "oh god, his god is demerol". It's one of Michael's most personal and sadly insightful tracks. Oh note is that in the final adlibs it feels very much on par with D.S. - and makes me wonder if it had been included on HiStory in place of D.S. how more adventurous the album would have been perceived. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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whatsgoingon said: MOL said: I'll repeat it; this time slowlier: the Jacksons did MANY things to MJ, when he was a solo act, that had a negative impact on his career. In fact, Joe and Jermaine were more than happy in trying to ruin it (no exxageration; read what they told Todd Gold). I might talk out of my ass, but you think with it. Quite a difference. [Edited 2/20/10 11:10am] And it's been also claimed that MJ tried to sabotage the solo careers of Jermaine and Janet, do you believe that too? Of course you don't because in your eyes MJ could never do no wrong. MJ fans are selective as the media they choose what they want to believe and discard what doesn't sound favourable to MJ. You are just as selective and bias as the haters. MJ had 24 years as a solo artist, it wasn't his brothers or even Joe that stopped him making no more than 3 and half albums in that period!! I'll be even slowlier, girl: Jermaine and Joe ADMITTED they constantly tried to ruin MJ's solo career. Read what they told Todd Gold. Get it? I'm basing myself on FACTS not on rumours. Difficult? This came out of their mouths. Besides, there are court transcripts of lawsuits generated by The Jacksons directed at Michael. THESE ARE FACTS. Not rumours. [Edited 2/21/10 8:25am] | |
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bboy87 said: angel345 said: To me, BOTDF has a similar sound to Remember The Time, but of course the two tracks are produced by the same person. and was recorded the same year Blood on The Dancefloor was originally for DangerousWhy didn't it make the cut until 1997? Do you know? | |
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whatsgoingon said: MOL said: I'll repeat it; this time slowlier: the Jacksons did MANY things to MJ, when he was a solo act, that had a negative impact on his career. In fact, Joe and Jermaine were more than happy in trying to ruin it (no exxageration; read what they told Todd Gold). I might talk out of my ass, but you think with it. Quite a difference. [Edited 2/20/10 11:10am] And it's been also claimed that MJ tried to sabotage the solo careers of Jermaine and Janet, do you believe that too? Of course you don't because in your eyes MJ could never do no wrong. MJ fans are selective as the media they choose what they want to believe and discard what doesn't sound favourable to MJ. You are just as selective and bias as the haters. MJ had 24 years as a solo artist, it wasn't his brothers or even Joe that stopped him making no more than 3 and half albums in that period!! How was it that MJ tried to sabotage Jermaine and Janet's career? I would like to be open and hear more about it. I saw one of MJ's interviews, and he stated that he gave the "Rhythm Nation" track to Janet. If anything, that move benefitted her career, not held it back. | |
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angel345 said: whatsgoingon said: And it's been also claimed that MJ tried to sabotage the solo careers of Jermaine and Janet, do you believe that too? Of course you don't because in your eyes MJ could never do no wrong. MJ fans are selective as the media they choose what they want to believe and discard what doesn't sound favourable to MJ. You are just as selective and bias as the haters. MJ had 24 years as a solo artist, it wasn't his brothers or even Joe that stopped him making no more than 3 and half albums in that period!! How was it that MJ tried to sabotage Jermaine and Janet's career? I would like to be open and hear more about it. I saw one of MJ's interviews, and he stated that he gave the "Rhythm Nation" track to Janet. If anything, that move benefitted her career, not held it back. Angel, that "argument" by Whatsgoingon was posted out of desperation. There is no evidence to back it up. When presented with facts, people like Whatsgoingon are going to counter-argument with baseless accusations with the "you're a blind fan" bonus. Notice how she/he constantly deviates the conversation and never answers my posts, prefering to accuse Michael of victimizing his poor family while ignoring some hard evidence. BTW, Michael was the one who convinced CBS director that he should help his brothers with the making and evetual release of the album "2300 Jackson Street". [Edited 2/21/10 9:18am] | |
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MOL said: angel345 said: How was it that MJ tried to sabotage Jermaine and Janet's career? I would like to be open and hear more about it. I saw one of MJ's interviews, and he stated that he gave the "Rhythm Nation" track to Janet. If anything, that move benefitted her career, not held it back. Angel, that "argument" bt Whatsgoingon was posted out of desperation. There is no evidence to back it up. When presented with facts, people like Whatsgoingon are going to counter-argument with baseless accusations with the "you're a blind fan" bonus. Notice how she/he constantly deviates the conversation and never answers my posts, prefering to accuse Michael of victimizing his poor family while ignoring some hard evidence. Michael was the one who convinced CBS director that he should help his brothers with the making and evetual release of the album "2300 Jackson Street". [Edited 2/21/10 9:17am] Your the one who is desperate. Why else would every single post you post be about MJ "evil" family? You obviously saw Mj as a child, who wasn't adult enough to make his own decisions. I do not absolve his family from all his problems, but the things that really brought MJ down during the latter part of his life had NOTHING to do with his family. The 2 child abuse allegations were what almost torn MJ apart, he almost ended up in prison, all because he didn't seem to understand about boundaries and logical decision making. You get your facts from books, the same kind of books that everyone has an opinion about. As far as I am concern Todd Gold book is no more honest than Randy Tarrollebelli Magic and Madness. You can take what you want to believe and leave the rest And why don't you take your Crazy-Arse views to a forum like King of POP, where everyone bar one would agree with your crazy ranting. [Edited 2/21/10 9:35am] | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Beautiful eye.  "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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this video of michael answering molestation questions in 96 ( leaked last year can be found on youtube) when and why was this interview? bboy ? | |
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bboy87 said: ViintageJunkiie said: If it's music before 93, then I'll buy it (1975-1993) are the best years. I think songwriting wise, he was at his peak at 1984-1994. l Hm, there is no such thing as an artistic peak for me. If it is the same person, I approach all their work the same regardless of when it was released. Someone who was once brilliant once can always return to that, regardless of what has occured in between. Ppl like to talk about Janet "everything after The Velvet Rope... blah blah.." When in fact, I like both All 4 U and Discipline better than the janet. album. Michael could've released Invincible in 1985 and it would still have been just as shitty and bloated to me. Mariah's best album was released in 2008- 18 years into her career. Prince make something better than Dirty Mind this year. We never know. This whole thing about pinpointing an artist's so called peak never made sense to me. They can be great whenever and they can be shit whenever. U will never see me make such a statement as "Earth Song is his best post-Thriller composition." I always see ppl saying this album is the best since... or this and that. Its good or it isn't good. Same artist, same standards. Songwriters aren't athletes. As long as they're living, they can continue to imagine and create. No peaks. | |
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Today is Blanket's birthday. 
Happy Birthday Blanket!!  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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