@poetcorner61 don't worry, there's still some happiness here. Like babybugz said, we're just tensed.

babybugz said:

1. Read his autopsy report. He was NOT a drug addict.
2. The other drugs Michael was taking are anesthetics and are, usually, used along with Propofol. They avoid body addiction and resistance.
3. Janet said Michael was "in denial". This means he told his family that he was NOT a drug addict. She said he was a druggie because he was taking Propofol! Propofol is barely an addictive substance and is used to put one to sleep...and she talked about it as if it was coke!
4. Janet never gave a timeframe, didn't say why did he take drugs and barely spoke/saw Michael. Even if he was the biggest junkie on Earth...how would she know it?
5. If he was such a druggie...then why was the family constantly hounding him for reunion tours?
6. The family admitted to have NEVER seen Michael taking drugs or under its effects. They asked him if he was an addict and he answered "no". They base their "he was a junkie" argument on tha fact that Michael kept a distance from them and sometimes didn't want to even see his family. It was not his problem...it was the family's.
7. He had a problem with drugs in 93 for some months. He never had another again. Yet, the family milks the "some-months-addiction-from-17-years-ago" and makes it seem as if Michael was a junkie all these years. And why? *I smell a lawsuit agaisnt AEG and the "we had a junkie relative" argument is the only way the family can sue this company*
8. Michael died from a lethal dose OF PROPOFOL. So your argument about Propofol having bad reactions with other drugs is SIMPLY STUPID. In fact, the other drugs HAVE/ARE MEANT to be used along with Propofol, otherwise the patience might get addicted and gain resistance.
9. It was Murray's fault.
10. I don't hate you: I just see that you know NOTHING about this case. It's impossible to hate ignorance. I just pity it.

I hope I'm not being to complex for you!


I posted this a while ago...you chose to ignore it.

Timmy84 said:

Yeah me and Timmy are friends ..

MOL said:

I don't know what you wrote because your convo wasn't directed toward me it was directed towards ViintageJunkiie so I didn't read your shit. If you saw my post I said that he had a problem at ONE POINT ,but He did not die from that so no need for you to be coming at me with your shit.I don't have a problem with you but you are really becoming a annoying bitch sorry to say.
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babybugz said:

You DID agree with Vintage Junkie's comment. "I guess you and me are going to be on the same boat".

Actually, my post was directed at VJunkie. But, since you replied (so intelectually!!!) I spent some of my time writing to you! You should be mad at people who think Michael is a pedo-junkie. Not me.

MOL said:

Yeah on the same boat as far as feeling Michael wasn't murdered some things the poster said I did agree with and Yes I can replied Intellectually or I can cut to the chase and say Shut the fuck up. You just a bunch of negative energy bad enough Michael is not here and you make it worse when you coming with your essays disrespecting Michael's family. Everything out your mouth is hatred everytime you post I just skip it because you really not worth it.Just a bitch.
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babybugz said:

The family that sells rumours to the press about how he was an addict? The family that told the police that Michael was a coke and heroin addict? The family that constantly hounded and sued him?

I'm just stating facts about the family while defending MJ.
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The family that sells rumours to the press about how he was an addict? The family that told the police that Michael was a coke and heroin addict? The family that constantly hounded and sued him?

I'm just stating facts about the family while defending MJ.
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MOL said:

Yeah, people don't like folks disrespecting the family, but is what they're saying not true? As long as it is, I have no problem with the knocks.

MOL said:

I don't care ,go to another board and preach it. And since you be up in their house go give us those Truimph and Victory tour DVD's I know you know where they at since you living in their closet. I'm done with you.

babybugz said:

Shut up. You realised I was just stating facts and agaisnt facts, honey, there are no arguments. So, when you realised I was right and, therefore, you could not counter-argument me (was there a way?), you started insulting me and screaming "I'm done". You're done because you know I'm right. The truth hurts.

By the way, another truth: I got too much to do to be having "discussions" with you. It's an impossible task. Whenever I state facts about MJ's family, you do everything but trying to have an argument. The whole "since you know so much..." and "Their his family..." doesn't go with me.

If you or anyone else wants to continue thinking that MJ was a junkie then do it. Just don't disrespect me for defending him with real evidence (now you will call me "an worshipper" due to the lack of a counter-argument).
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Project Love

The problem is: it is NOT true. What they're saying is NOT true. Some in the family are inventing a lot of things because they want to sue AEG. Others because they want to mantain the "we are the perfect family" image. Others in that family simply didn't know anything about him and are just making assumptions.

Michael was NOT a drug addict. He was NOT using Coke or Heroin. He wasn't addicted to any substance.
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Not to continue a debate but I thought it worthwhile to weigh in on the "junkie" tag being tossed about. Many people were quick to label Michael a "junkie" at his death, a sensationalist tag the media ran with (what a surprise).

Whilst certainly not a "junkie" by any stretch of the imagination - I don't think that anyone could deny that Michael had a dependancy on prescription drugs. He admitted to an over dependance in 93, and according to several reports underwent rehab on 2-3 occasions.

As the autopsy results show, Michael was taking several pills for various ailments and sadly this was compounded by his insomnia.

Sadly this over dependance on prescriptions became a crutch for Michael, and rather than relieve issues in the long run only made for a tragic outcome. But let's be clear - his cause of death was related to the propofol.

Swa

Is this Debbie? Some say it is, some it isn´t. Does anyone know for sure?
Anyways, Mike´s just too gorgeous.


It kinda looks like her. The chin, the smile, the nose...

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Disagree. Doesn't look like Debbie to me. A few similarities but I can tell it's not the same person.

bboy87 said:

Oh MY Gosh! Is that what I think it is?

Disagree. Doesn't look like Debbie to me. A few similarities but I can tell it's not the same person.

Can't believe that I went to the flea market today and found a first edition copy of Moonwalk from 1988 that was signed and had a sketch by MJ right before the title page dated 1998! The signature is definitely MJ's as well as the sketch. The guy selling it didn't know what he had--he sold the book for $7.00. Can't believe my luck--what a find! Just had to share!

Timmy84 said:

contrary to belief, black folks actually have brown hair, it's just really dark

Can't believe that I went to the flea market today and found a first edition copy of Moonwalk from 1988 that was signed and had a sketch by MJ right before the title page dated 1998! The signature is definitely MJ's as well as the sketch. The guy selling it didn't know what he had--he sold the book for $7.00. Can't believe my luck--what a find! Just had to share!