A excuse for lazy black men to not get a job jk ..it's what everybody else said.

sometimes certain people's words are as worthless as farts in a crowd,
regarding the thoughtless farter the uncontrolled fart easily and quickly stinks up the area.
after the fart has been released and insulted everyone in the vicinity, the smell dissipates into the air.
in conclusion: the idiocracy of the verbal mind-farted words are soon forgotten as though caught in a strong down wind

cbarnes3121 said:

When people don't want to be challenged, it's much easier to flip the question back to the person who posed it..


I've always thought music was much as a historical barometer as essays, plays, poems, and novels to tell you about a particular place in time. For me the contribution by African-Americans to the art of music is so important, it tells our story when we had no other means of doing so. Our music celebrated the best of who we were, our infinite possibilites and our genuis to carve out a distinctive cultural out of ashes. African American music has spoken of our confusion, our dreams, our hopes, our humor, our faith, our fears, our lust, our machismo, and of late it has celebrated our cowardice, our self-destruction, our lack of self-respect, and deep, deep, deep, deep self-hatred.

It's funny how some had to go back damn near twenty years to give you positive positive aspects of the genre of rap music. Public Enemy 2007 released, -"How You Sell Soul To A Soulless People Who Sold Their Soul??"- it didn't and couldn't get 15 minutes of radio or TV air-time. For all the howls of protest about these amazing artist via the underground who aren't being heard many of the pioneers of rap, gangsta rap or otherwise emerged from the same place. Could it be the market place has spoken?

For all rap music has contributed to telling an aspect of black life, some Black men have been more than willing to embraced the lowest common denominator and nihilism for profit. How ironic, when for years we've whined about how Hollywood/media has portrayed Black people as feeble -minded, violent over-sexed animals, propaganda used to justify our violent subjugation. We've jumped at the chance (for twenty pieces of silver) to pimp the same bullshit images we claim aren't a true representative of who we are. We can't have both ways.






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You're misunderstanding me. These clowns that are running around violent or having that violent attitude and accusing others of being "soft" who don't act a fool like they do and brag that they are "hood" and "ghetto" are giving white racists exactly what they want to see....black men who are violent towards each other and know their place "in the ghetto" and justify the shit by saying they are "keeping it real". Oh, they are keeping it real alright, keeping it real stupid. This is exactly the type of behavior that white racists enjoy seeing so in other words, they are giving the racists exactly what they want. An Uncle Tom kisses ass giving them what they want so for these thugs to make fools of themselves is the same damn thing....giving the racists what they want...so in my book, they are Uncle Toms too.

Oh, you know I'm going to twist it around in any shape I can to try to turn folks against shit hop or make them ashamed to like it. When I was growing up, a lot of people liked to associate classical music as being for dorks and nerds but the younger generation doesn't don't seem to get the connection when I say that classical music is faster and with more rhythm than their shit hop (I guess because they were raised on nothing but slow music their entire lives) so I'm always looking for other comparisons to make them ashamed of listening to shit hop. Kinda like the rockers' strategy when they killed off disco (making a person seem uncool if they listened to it). Hell, I'm gonna start fucking with their sexuality next since that seems to be what they really can't stand.
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I see the current trend of hip hop as a sign of great freedom that this society allows. I am not claiming there are no problems, I'm only saying that people are more free to do whatever they want and act however they want, whether it's on record or on the streets.

So I think people are taking advantage of this and releasing foul pornographic music to see how far they can go.

When society was more controlling (and this applied to all races) technical skill & creativity were more important as a way to express yourself. Now we can just say things bluntly, with no art whatsoever.

I am not condemning hip hop as a style, plenty of it is good (and no form of expression is inherently bad or good), I am only talking about the worst (and unfortunately most popular) trend in hip hop. But it's the same in other forms of art. I saw an artist who puked on canvases. I've seen artists mutilate themselves. All attention getting, not necessarily compelling art.

Hopefully once people get used to the fact that they can say "fuck" and "n&%^^&a" or do whatever they want, and nobody will bat an eye anymore, artists will get back to creating art.

The OP has never heard of Mos Def..Andre 3000..Lupe Fiasco..Talib Kweli? The thread question borders on assinine and doesn't deserve a response

The artists I just mentioned proves you don't have to go back 20 years to find positive rappers..that comment earlier may have been by someone not fully informed on current hip hop.

Grown folks claiming "war on shit-hop" and trying covert as many as possible? That equates to get a life and with all due respect,if they saw more of the world instead of being stuck and sheltered in their born state..they wouldn't sound so ignorant

Okay,I nibbled on the laid bait,but it's getting old and tasteless and not worth getting caught up in....

Cinnie said:

KRS with a gun.

rap is a barometer of american society. Judging by what's popular in this genre, our society is ill

Sandino said:

best answer yet

abigail05 said:

It's a great answer,but I'm waiting for the "What is the Purpose of Country Music?" thread..The OP sounds like they had an ulterior motive,without sending this to P&R

abigail05 said:

Yeah, for stereotyping. American music is a barometer of American society, not just rap.

One of the worst genres of music with a few exceptions. Usually untalented musicians who say its all about the lyrics. No energy . no real emotion. and never truely music. Computers and bitches that is all what rap is about.

[Verse 1]
See I'm a single black male, dark hair, dark eyes
Long walks through a park and a lot of them lives
I'm a little bit shaded by a lot of what I see
So if you're still interested you should come get at me
Cause I'm tired of getting shot down, put down and dissed
I wanna be picked up, held tight and kissed
But things like these don't happen to dudes like me
Because I'm more Coldplay than I am Ice-T
They say that good girls love bad guys and that might be
But a bad girl with a good guy, that's unlikely
So what's a man to do to get to hold hands with you?
Do I talk shit and stand and look hard with my crew?
I don't know what to do, so I drown in my drink
It helps to numb the pain, cause when I sit and think about it
Eyes get clouded, thoughts get crowded (thoughts get clouded)
So I'ma sit right here, wait for you to talk about it
In the.. c'mon

[Verse 2]
Said she had a boyfriend, just trying to be nice
But I've heard the same lines from different women all night
Too easy let down, but don't let it get you down
Shit, that's what my boys told me, but end of the night
I was still sitting lonely, if only I could find 'em
Without all the drama, without the one-liners
Excuse me miss, hey mam, you got a man, what's ya name?
I'm in my mid-twenties so enough with the games
Simply put I think you're stunning, and what about some kids?
A couple dogs, a couple cars, a four bedroom crib?
Look, I'm not trying to jib, I'm just speaking from the heart
But we can start with a drink if you wanna play it smart
She looking at my boy who got two kids at home and
I know how it goes, here's his number telephone and
He does the girl's turf, and I know you're smelling on him
But every bitch needs a dog, so I guess that's why you want him

[Verse 3]
I try to be settle, but even flirting got me shooked
I would never get a smile, all I got was dirty looks
And my self-esteem is low enough, I got teased growing up
And what I do, I beat 'em up, but that only made me tough
It didn't get me girls, or notes in class
Same girls who used to tell, when I would pinch their ass
But if another boy did it, then they would get gritty
So I pretended the handball was their face when I hit it
And I admit it's part the reason why I'm do em like I do
And women in my life, there has only been two
My mother being one, and the other one is done
So my philosophy on dating is; ain't no fun
Cause they come and they go, and even if they don't cum
They still have to go, girl I give the best head
But you just wouldn't know, cause you stuck up in some diddy
But even if you dissed me, I ain't mad

Go on do that yo with yo pretty as..
You looked better coming..
No wait, you looked better going than you did coming
Her ass is amazing. High five for Jesus
Keep making 'em like that
Just make 'em with half a brain so maybe they'll talk to me

Funkmaster3000 said:

What is this, 1992???

cbarnes3121 said:

Who listens to the radio these days?

Cinnie said:

cuz his recent stuff is whack as fuck is why . i think you meant mos def

BlaqueKnight said:

alright, well maybe it's a barometer for American Youth. It's what the kids have been buying for years, and they don't seem to be demanding something better.

Paris9748430 said:

lol what do you mean.

Funkmaster3000 said:

To say that Rap is all about Bitches & Ho's and Guns.

That's an old, 1992-'94 argument.

Yeah, you can say that there isn't a lot of musicianship in Hip-Hop. But that's true for a lot of Popular Music, not just Rap.


There's plenty of emotion and energy.

Turn of that bullshit that's on the radio.

Paris9748430 said:

I mean rap like lil wayne and all that shit sucks ass. Really im not only listening to the lyrics any ways im listening to the drums, the bass and ect.. and it is a repetive computer.

Funkmaster3000 said:

Lil Wayne sucks ass..but Mos Def doesn't..people generalize bad rap for all rap which is the mistake many people make which probably means they're not knowledegable about the genre they're actually criticizing about and that ignorance becomes glaring.

Comments about the computer makes one sound old and outdated..even fully functional bands uses a computer in some sorts for recording,sequencing or editing..most songs have one simple groove and that repetitive groove is the backbone for most songs..the computer has nothing to do with that formula,just helps in performing that task.Except for jazz the majority of popular music is repetitive,with maybe a change in the bridge,it's a chorus driven time these days,deal with it.

SavonOsco said:

i grew up listening to rap and being surrounded by it and never fell into. When given the chOice between "The Rain Song" (Led Zeppelin) and Lil Jon, i choose zeppelin. I mean rap music just sounds bad lol. i mean were all born with the ability to move our mouths and make noise. We are not born with the ability
to play an insturment we have to take time to learn how to play these instruments and rap artists don't take the time to do so.

Funkmaster3000 said:

Who wouldn't?

Our mouths were the first instruments..lol..cmon man,words and drums it's that simple..
That simplicity is easier to relate to a wider audience because everyone can speak over a rhythm...

Just to ease your mind,real instruments and live musicians are used for some rap records

SavonOsco said:

i mean there is no musically genius to rap or like, you don't have to be smart to rap. I mean autotune allows any rapper to sound good now adays lol.

Funkmaster3000 said:

That's true, but you don't have to be smart to sing, too.

Hell, Britney Spears sings.