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rmartin70 said: Cinnie said: Fresh Fest??  Yeah, that was the second concert I ever went to. Ticket stub only says Run DMC. The first being UTFO, Too Short, and I can't remember if it was the Real Roxanne or Roxanne Shante.  WOW that's totally interesting!! I know mine was the Raising Hell Tour becasue I got the shirt but I didn't know they did a show with $hort and those that you listed... 
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RenHoek said: rmartin70 said: Yeah, that was the second concert I ever went to. Ticket stub only says Run DMC. The first being UTFO, Too Short, and I can't remember if it was the Real Roxanne or Roxanne Shante. WOW that's totally interesting!! I know mine was the Raising Hell Tour becasue I got the shirt but I didn't know they did a show with $hort and those that you listed...
Man... there used to be HELLA hiphop concerts back in the day!! Sorry, I guess I was not too clear . The first concert I attended was UTFO, with The Real Roxanne or Roxanne Shante, and Too Short opened up at the Henry J. Kaiser Center. I had never heard of Too Short. The second was the Run DMC show with LL Cool J, Whodini, and The Beastie Boys. [Edited 1/31/10 11:22am] [Edited 1/31/10 11:33am] | |
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vainandy said: The purpose of it is to fullfill old white record executives' dreams of going back to their good ole days of how music and black people should be. It's purpose is to do away with all rhythm and undo all the progress that was made by the rock and roll era. The rock and roll era brought black rhythm to white people and now all rhythm is gone thanks to shit hop. It's just as slow and dull, if not duller, than the classical music era. Shit hop's purpose is also to put black people back as second class citizens by making them want to "stay in their place" in the ghetto and fight and kill each other. While they are talking that shit about "too black too strong", they are really a bunch of Uncle Tom oreo bitches who are giving old white racists what they want.
Put black people back in the ghetto so they could fight and kill each other?  Dude the music industry has nothing to do with some black kids choices to go down the wrong path, join gangs or end up in jail. Those who choose to harm each other, make that choice on their own. Rap music has nothing to do with forcing them to do that. Furthermore, those who speak "too black too strong" are not Uncle Toms. Uncle Toms aren't interested in being "too black too strong", because they are too busy trying not to be "too black", so I have to disagree with you on that andy.
Now if you are talking about some artists that go mainstream, then I wouldn't say those artists are trying to be "Uncle Tom", but more or less trying to reach out to a broader audience, even though many have a lot to learn about the inside of the music industry. 50 cent and Jay-Z started off attracting audiences from all sides of the spectrum, reeling in a wide base of black/white/hispanic/asian, and now that they were successful in doing that, doesn't make them Uncle Toms. They apparently were smart enough to go beyond rap music and put their money in other ventures, and the record companies surely don't have them living in the ghetto or keeping them there. So it all depends on an artist's education of the music industry, and if you allow one record company o keep you in a specific category, where you can't expand, then that's on the artist. | |
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cbarnes3121 said: i am tryin 2 figure out what is something positive about rap music? all i hear is music degrading women,glorfying drug,sex and all kinds of ghetto life actions is that something we need in this day and time our kids already have enuff problems u cant even trust turning on the radio its just horrible these days
originally:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music "hip hop music was an outlet and a "voice" for black american (and the black american jamaican) disenfranchised youth as the culture reflected the social, economic and political realities of their lives." (the beginning of rap was full of constructive and positive lyrics) unfortunantly: Later, the MCs grew more varied in their vocal and rhythmic approach, incorporating brief rhymes, often with a sexual or scatological theme, in an effort at differentiating themselves and entertaining the audience. The Message" is a 1979 single by American hip hop trio Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five. While it was not the first song to feature rapping, it is the first song made by a hip hop or rap group, and is generally considered to be the first true hip hop release The Message lyrics (1982) It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under Broken glass everywhere People pissing on the stairs, you know they just don't care I can't take the smell, I can't take the noise no more Got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice Rats in the front room, roaches in the back Junkies in the alley with the baseball bat I tried to get away, but I couldn't get far Cause a man with a tow-truck repossessed my car Chorus: Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge I'm trying not to lose my head, ah huh-huh-huh [2nd and 5th: ah huh-huh-huh] [4th: say what?] It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under Standing on the front stoop, hangin' out the window Watching all the cars go by, roaring as the breezes blow Crazy lady livin' in a bag Eating out of garbage pails, used to be a fag-hag Said she danced the tango, skipped the light fandango The Zircon Princess seemed to lost her senses Down at the peepshow, watching all the creeps So she can tell the stories to the girls back home She went to the city and got social security She had to get a pimp, she couldn't make it on her own [2nd Chorus] My brother's doing bad on my mother's TV She says: "You watch it too much, it's just not healthy!" "All My Children" in the daytime, "Dallas" at night Can't even see the game or the Sugar Ray fight The bill collectors they ring my phone And scare my wife when I'm not home Got a bum education, double-digit inflation I can't take the train to the job, there's a strike at the station Neon King Kong standin' on my back Can't stop to turn around, broke my sacrophiliac A mid-ranged migraine, cancered membrane Sometimes I think I'm going insane, I swear I might hijack a plane My son said: "Daddy I don't wonna go to school Cause the teacher's a jerk!", he must think I'm a fool And all the kids smoke reefer, I think it'd be cheaper If I just got a job, learned to be a street sweeper I'll dance to the beat, shuffle my feet Wear a shirt and tie and run with the creeps Cause it's all about money, ain't a damn thing funny You got to have a con in this land of milk and honey They pushed that girl in front of the train Took her to the doctor, sewed her arm on again Stabbed that man right in his heart Gave him a transplant for a brand new start I can't walk through the park, cause it's crazy after dark Keep my hand on my gun, cause they got me on the run I feel like a outlaw, broke my last glass jar Hear them say: "You want some more livin' on a seesaw?" [4th Chorus] A child is born with no state of mind Blind to the ways of mankind God is smiling on you but he's frowning too Because only God knows what you'll go through You'll grow in the ghetto, living second rate And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate The places you're playin', where you stay Looks like one great big alley way You'll admire all the number book takers Thugs, pimps, pushers and the big money makers Driving big cars, spending twenties and tens And you wanna grow up to be just like them, huh, Smugglers, scrambles, burglars, gamblers Pickpockets, peddlers even panhandlers You say: "I'm cool, I'm no fool!" But then you wind up dropping out of high school Now you're unemployed, all non-void Walking 'round like you're Pretty Boy Floyd Turned stickup kid, look what you've done did Got sent up for a eight year bid Now your manhood is took and you're a may tag Spend the next two years as a undercover fag Being used and abused to serve like hell Till one day you was found hung dead in a cell It was plain to see that your life was lost You was cold and your body swung back and forth But now your eyes sing the sad, sad song Of how you lived so fast and died so young Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge I'm trying not to lose my head It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under Yo Mell, you see that girl there? Yo, that sounded like Cowboy man Cool Yo, what's up Money? Yo, where's Cooly an Raheim? They is downstairs coooling out So what's up for tonight y'all? We could go down to Phoenix We could go check out "Junebug" man Hey yo, you know that girl Betty? Yeah man Come on, come all man Not like it That's what I heard man What's this happening, what's this? What's goin' on? Freeze Don't nobody move or nothin' Y'all know what this is (What's happend?) Get 'em up, get 'em up (What?) Oh man, we're (Right in there) Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five What is that, a gang? No Shut up I don't wanna hear your mouth Shut up Officer, officer, what is the problem? You the problem Hey, you ain't gotta push me man Get in the car, get in the car Get in the god... I said, "Get in the car" Why is he?  (so sorry for the error/have no excuse/'cept typing and not going back to proof read)
also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapping to understand the difference between rapping (which is what the hip hop artist does) and the term hip-hop. [Edited 1/31/10 12:43pm] [Edited 1/31/10 12:58pm] Live life as though each moment is as precious & beautiful as a rainbow after a spring rain. b positive, creative, kind, productive, resourceful & respectful of humankind, & feel free 2 know that U-R-A  . i can feel it when u shine on me  | |
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lafleurdove said: cbarnes3121 said: i am tryin 2 figure out what is something positive about rap music? all i hear is music degrading women,glorfying drug,sex and all kinds of ghetto life actions is that something we need in this day and time our kids already have enuff problems u cant even trust turning on the radio its just horrible these days
originally:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music "hip hop music was an outlet and a "voice" for black american (and the black american jamaican) disenfranchised youth as the culture reflected the social, economic and political realities of their lives." (the beginning of rap was full of constructive and positive lyrics) unfortunantly: Later, the MCs grew more varied in their vocal and rhythmic approach, incorporating brief rhymes, often with a sexual or scatological theme, in an effort at differentiating themselves and entertaining the audience. Rapper's Delight" is a 1979 single by American hip hop trio The Sugarhill Gang. While it was not the first song to feature rapping, it is the first song made by a hip hop or rap group, and is generally considered to be the first true hip hop release Rappers delight lyrics It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under Broken glass everywhere People pissing on the stairs, you know they just don't care I can't take the smell, I can't take the noise no more Got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice Rats in the front room, roaches in the back Junkies in the alley with the baseball bat I tried to get away, but I couldn't get far Cause a man with a tow-truck repossessed my car Chorus: Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge I'm trying not to lose my head, ah huh-huh-huh [2nd and 5th: ah huh-huh-huh] [4th: say what?] It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under Standing on the front stoop, hangin' out the window Watching all the cars go by, roaring as the breezes blow Crazy lady livin' in a bag Eating out of garbage pails, used to be a fag-hag Said she danced the tango, skipped the light fandango The Zircon Princess seemed to lost her senses Down at the peepshow, watching all the creeps So she can tell the stories to the girls back home She went to the city and got social security She had to get a pimp, she couldn't make it on her own [2nd Chorus] My brother's doing bad on my mother's TV She says: "You watch it too much, it's just not healthy!" "All My Children" in the daytime, "Dallas" at night Can't even see the game or the Sugar Ray fight The bill collectors they ring my phone And scare my wife when I'm not home Got a bum education, double-digit inflation I can't take the train to the job, there's a strike at the station Neon King Kong standin' on my back Can't stop to turn around, broke my sacrophiliac A mid-ranged migraine, cancered membrane Sometimes I think I'm going insane, I swear I might hijack a plane My son said: "Daddy I don't wonna go to school Cause the teacher's a jerk!", he must think I'm a fool And all the kids smoke reefer, I think it'd be cheaper If I just got a job, learned to be a street sweeper I'll dance to the beat, shuffle my feet Wear a shirt and tie and run with the creeps Cause it's all about money, ain't a damn thing funny You got to have a con in this land of milk and honey They pushed that girl in front of the train Took her to the doctor, sewed her arm on again Stabbed that man right in his heart Gave him a transplant for a brand new start I can't walk through the park, cause it's crazy after dark Keep my hand on my gun, cause they got me on the run I feel like a outlaw, broke my last glass jar Hear them say: "You want some more livin' on a seesaw?" [4th Chorus] A child is born with no state of mind Blind to the ways of mankind God is smiling on you but he's frowning too Because only God knows what you'll go through You'll grow in the ghetto, living second rate And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate The places you're playin', where you stay Looks like one great big alley way You'll admire all the number book takers Thugs, pimps, pushers and the big money makers Driving big cars, spending twenties and tens And you wanna grow up to be just like them, huh, Smugglers, scrambles, burglars, gamblers Pickpockets, peddlers even panhandlers You say: "I'm cool, I'm no fool!" But then you wind up dropping out of high school Now you're unemployed, all non-void Walking 'round like you're Pretty Boy Floyd Turned stickup kid, look what you've done did Got sent up for a eight year bid Now your manhood is took and you're a may tag Spend the next two years as a undercover fag Being used and abused to serve like hell Till one day you was found hung dead in a cell It was plain to see that your life was lost You was cold and your body swung back and forth But now your eyes sing the sad, sad song Of how you lived so fast and died so young Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge I'm trying not to lose my head It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under Yo Mell, you see that girl there? Yo, that sounded like Cowboy man Cool Yo, what's up Money? Yo, where's Cooly an Raheim? They is downstairs coooling out So what's up for tonight y'all? We could go down to Phoenix We could go check out "Junebug" man Hey yo, you know that girl Betty? Yeah man Come on, come all man Not like it That's what I heard man What's this happening, what's this? What's goin' on? Freeze Don't nobody move or nothin' Y'all know what this is (What's happend?) Get 'em up, get 'em up (What?) Oh man, we're (Right in there) Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five What is that, a gang? No Shut up I don't wanna hear your mouth Shut up Officer, officer, what is the problem? You the problem Hey, you ain't gotta push me man Get in the car, get in the car Get in the god... I said, "Get in the car" Why is he? also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapping to understand the difference between rapping (which is what the hip hop artist does) and the term hip-hop. it's "Creole and Rahiem" lol what fuckin coonery is wikipedia | |
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RenHoek said:
that's NOT Rappers Delight!!! in my post, the rap song by the Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five should have been titled "The Message" sorry, and i do so apologize. i have edited the error. it was my failure to proof read before posting. (thank you for catching that!)  [Edited 1/31/10 12:58pm] Live life as though each moment is as precious & beautiful as a rainbow after a spring rain. b positive, creative, kind, productive, resourceful & respectful of humankind, & feel free 2 know that U-R-A . i can feel it when u shine on me | |
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"The Message" is by Grand Master Flash and the Furious 5 not the Sugarhill Gang [Edited 1/31/10 12:56pm] | |
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Crazy lady livin' in a baaaag
Eatin' out of garbage pails, used to be a fag-hag | |
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rmartin70 said: "The Message" is by Grand Master Flash and the Furious 5 not the Sugarhill Gang
[Edited 1/31/10 12:56pm] Thanks (that's what i get for trying to listen to my church's online streaming while trying to post in prince.org) i guess all diamonds have flaws....
can i regain credibility with this: recorded in 1971 album Pieces of a Man proto-rap style artist: Gil Scott Heron. [Edited 1/31/10 13:11pm] Live life as though each moment is as precious & beautiful as a rainbow after a spring rain. b positive, creative, kind, productive, resourceful & respectful of humankind, & feel free 2 know that U-R-A . i can feel it when u shine on me | |
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these type of threads are retarded. You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
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Cinnie said: Crazy lady livin' in a baaaag
Eatin' out of garbage pails, used to be a fag-hag [Edited 1/31/10 16:38pm] Live life as though each moment is as precious & beautiful as a rainbow after a spring rain. b positive, creative, kind, productive, resourceful & respectful of humankind, & feel free 2 know that U-R-A . i can feel it when u shine on me | |
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What's the point of rap. well let's change that question, what the point of music?
the answer, to listen and to be enjoyed by various people. While discussing music, dissecting the music is fun, but lets not take to the point, where one cannot here music without being anal. Music is Music. | |
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We REALLY need to have a thread to showcase good hip hop
Waits for Cinnie to make one so bboy can post examples "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: We REALLY need to have a thread to showcase good hip hop
Waits for Cinnie to make one so bboy can post examples pfft!! Bring that shit right here!! Haterz wanna hate... so let'em... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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RenHoek said: bboy87 said: We REALLY need to have a thread to showcase good hip hop
Waits for Cinnie to make one so bboy can post examples pfft!! Bring that shit right here!! Haterz wanna hate... so let'em... Cinnie's ignoring us "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: RenHoek said: pfft!! Bring that shit right here!! Haterz wanna hate... so let'em... Cinnie's ignoring us fine... forgot da / edit... [Edited 2/1/10 0:05am] A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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RenHoek said: bboy87 said: Cinnie's ignoring us fine... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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minneapolisFunq said: these type of threads are retarded.
Co-sign. Its an entire genre. What is the purpose of ANY genre of music? The question is not even worth entertaining an answer to. | |
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What's the purpose of Rock music? What's the purpose of R&B music? What's the purpose of Country music? What's the purpose of Techno music? What's the purpose of Jazz music What's the purpose of Funk music? What's the purpose of the Blues? What's the purpose of Polka music? What's the purpose of Orchestral music? JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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What's the purpose of Rock music? What's the purpose of R&B music? What's the purpose of Country music? What's the purpose of Techno music? What's the purpose of Jazz music What's the purpose of Funk music? What's the purpose of the Blues? What's the purpose of Polka music? What's the purpose of Orchestral music?  | |
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Got damn I'm glad ya'll set it off, used to be hard now you're just wet and soft  I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. | |
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Paris9748430 said:
What's the purpose of Rock music? What's the purpose of R&B music? What's the purpose of Country music? What's the purpose of Techno music? What's the purpose of Jazz music What's the purpose of Funk music? What's the purpose of the Blues? What's the purpose of Polka music? What's the purpose of Orchestral music? What's the purpose of Reggae music? What's the purpose of Gospel music? What's the purpose of Soul music? What's the purpose of Disco music? | |
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cbarnes3121 said: i am tryin 2 figure out what is something positive about rap music? all i hear is music degrading women,glorfying drug,sex and all kinds of ghetto life actions is that something we need in this day and time our kids already have enuff problems u cant even trust turning on the radio its just horrible these days
The ORIGINAL purpose of rap (before the negativities came along) is to be the modern-day version of poetry. If you like poems, you will like rap songs. | |
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thedance said: the purpose of rap, is to poison the radio.
oh please prince was more mysogynistic and sexual than any other rap acts in the day.....u dont know anything about rap....stay out this thread Atom Heart Mother  | |
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cbarnes3121 said: i am tryin 2 figure out what is something positive about rap music? all i hear is music degrading women,glorfying drug,sex and all kinds of ghetto life actions is that something we need in this day and time our kids already have enuff problems u cant even trust turning on the radio its just horrible these days
isnt that rock music??? well my point is, is that the reason why ppl bash on rap/hiphop is because its not a white mans genre.....whereas ppl dont really talk about rock being bad music....you should listen to public enemy it takes a nation of millions to hold us back, the best album of the 80's....  Atom Heart Mother | |
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I went and asked some Ol' Skool Rappers this very question and they said...
"The sole purpose of rap, it's genesis, was to insure that people would start inane threads asking this very question in the soon-to-be-popular internet on an obscure Prince fam site" then they jumped into their slammed, candied El Dorados (on 22's mind you...) and flew back to the Mothership... and we all lived happily ever after... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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RenHoek said: I went and asked some Ol' Skool Rappers this very question and they said...
"The sole purpose of rap, it's genesis, was to insure that people would start inane threads asking this very question in the soon-to-be-popular internet on an obscure Prince fam site" then they jumped into their slammed, candied El Dorados (on 22's mind you...) and flew back to the Mothership... and we all lived happily ever after... I think that's the answer to the question "What is the purpose of cbarnes3121?"
"tryin' to figure out something positive" about an entire genre of music with thousands and thousands of artists worldwide? Music - all forms - is about communicating an idea or feeling through song. Rap is no different; just more popular at the moment. | |
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