babybugz said:

I could see Robert making the Hall. I'm pretty sure he's the most prolific male RnB artist from the 90s (not including MJ and Prince.)

NoVideo said:

Janet Jackson, Roberta Flack and Michael McDonald are not in!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

It will be many years before anybody on this list will be in. Lots of time for many artists to get in before them.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yea. He's eligible in 2017 I think he'll get in based off his contribution to R&B along with many other qualities. But sadly most R&B artists get inducted once they're in their grave. I hope that's not the case this time around.

NoVideo said:

You see i dont know about JT, alicia most likely, beyonce probable at some point. But i know about JT overall, it really depends on where the industry goes, i mean you have artists not in that are light years more important than Jt,Beyonce and Alicia combined, so ithink the hall over the next decade is going to start putting in the likes of Chicago,kiss,and others that they missed (chicago was never on the ballot) because the 90's on the whole, wont have many to induct, outside of maybe Pearl Jam and Nirvana, you can pretty much write that one off.

As for Norah, she is a shoe in, she has already got the respect of that "crowd". Ryan should just go in on principal, as for John Mayer, he wouldnt get my vote, but im sure he will see that day

lastdecember said:

i really think you are underestimating the importance and influence of Beyonce and in particular Justin Timberlake. He's extremely talented, and each of his solo albums have been extraordinarily successful, and both were loved by critics. He has worked with many other artists, and is probably the preeminent pop male artist working right now. If he carries on with any kind of longevity, he could be a hall of famer early in his eligibility.

midiscover said:

SO right, Bobby Womack got inducted, what last year! Joe Tex, Luther, Barry White ect are not in yet ...

The induction process is a crock.

That being said, imo, these 2 have a stronger case than anyone that's been listed in this thread so far.

Chicago (over 20 albums, over 3 decades):
Maybe the best selling American group after The Beach Boys.
Not that selling tons of albums equates to quality product, but in this case, I believe the two are pretty consistent.


Todd Rundgren (over 20 albums, over 3 decades):
His body of work in and around (video, technology) music speaks for itself.

It's seems you should have to prove yourself over time before you're considered a "Hall of Famer".


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theAudience said:

Agreed, and I would add Rush to that list.

I'm surprised Chicago didn't get inducted yet.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

These three definitely need to be inducted! Especially, Barry White.

NoVideo said:

No thats understood, but like i said there were others that were overlooked that have had far more influence and even popularity through the years that havent even been on the ballot. We have to remember though this is not about popularity, or else Hall and Oates and Chicago and Pat benatar and Bon Jovi and others would be in first chance, and yet none have even been mentioned. I think
again we are talking about a pop artist, its not that easy for pop artists to get in. JT is has talent but the music business right now is not very relevant now, where you have artists changing the landscape the way you did before, theres too much side tracking these entertainers from growing into artists nowadays, so they may be the ones "getting played" but the way things are nowadays thats not really what it will take now.

Yikes! This looks more like the induction into the People's Choice Awards.

R. Kelly has a chance, but he might have to wait a long time for that yellow stain to fade.

People like Alicia Keys could certainly surprise over the next 10-15 years, but many of the people in the Hall of Fame by her age had already established an unbelievable musical legacy. Alicia has some great songs, but does she have even one great album?

Beyonce is certainly a very good singer/performer, but her catalog to me would be dwarfed by the likes of Diana Ross (in the Hall with The Supremes years ago) and Donna Summer (will definitely join her soon) at the same age.

theAudience said:

I think Todd Rundgren is an absolute lock. And Chicago has probably been hurt a bit by their 80's image and by the notion that they have tons of great music, but maybe not tons of great albums.

It's impossible to please everyone with something so complicated and subjective, but at least the Hall of Fame so far isn't making it so easy that virtually anyone who has ever had a song played on the radio gets inducted.

It's still tough. And great artists like Todd Rundgren are examples of people that have fallen through the cracks. But I'm still crazy enough to believe that those cracks will be filled.

The truth always shines eventually. Sometimes it takes years, sometimes decades, sometimes centuries. But I think eventually it always shines once we get out of the short-term glare that clouds so much.

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Brendan said:[quote]R. Kelly has a chance, but he might have to wait a long time for that yellow stain to fade.[quote]

Michael had to wait 4 years after the 93 allegations. Just saying.

musicjunky318 said:[quote]Brendan said:[quote]R. Kelly has a chance, but he might have to wait a long time for that yellow stain to fade.
Mike got in his first year in 2001.

LittleBLUECorvette said:[quote]musicjunky318 said:[quote]

Brendan said:

I was referring to the Jackson 5.

musicjunky318 said:

3 years they had to wait.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Whatever, you get my point.

^^ I don't see the correlation

midiscover said:

Brendan stated that he thinks R.Kelly has a chance at induction, however, might have to wait a good while because of his legal troubles. Then I proclaimed it doesn't necessarily have to be true since Michael joined the club along with his brothers only 3 years after the 93 allegations.

musicjunky318 said:

Gotcha!

I misinterpreted what you wrote. I thought you were indicating that MJ had an extended wait because of his legal woes therefore R. Kelly would have the same.

midiscover said:

Oh no.

musicjunky318 said:

I don't think his legal troubles was the reason the Rock Hall waited three years to put the J5 in.

J5 were first nominated in 94, let's see the other nominees who didn't get in in 94 also.

Buffalo Springfield
Frank Zappa
Joni Mitchell
Martha and the Vandellas
The Moonglows
Pink Floyd
The (Young) Rascals
The Velvet Underground


and 95

Jefferson Airplane
Joni Mitchell
Little Willie John
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground


and 96

The Bee Gees
The Flamingos
King Curtis
Lloyd Price
The Moonglows
Parliament-Funkadelic
The (Young) Rascals
Solomon Burke

LittleBLUECorvette said:

You guys are misquoting me. I'm looking at it from the opposite angle. Michael got in early despite the drama. Three years, in my estimation, was a short waiting period. R.Kelly, therefore, doesn't necessarily have to be on the waiting list for all eternity.

musicjunky318 said:

LOL, ok I think I get what you're saying.

Also, Barry White has never even been on the ballot, WTF!

http://www.futurerocklege.../index.php

The rock and roll hall of fame should only have rockers. It isn't fair that ALICE COOPER has to wait behind llcoolJ for a spot in it. They should induct one artist a year. ANd it has to be a rock artsit or someone who heavily influenced rock.

musicjunky318 said:[quote]Brendan said:[quote]R. Kelly has a chance, but he might have to wait a long time for that yellow stain to fade.

Yep. It's going to be so long before he's even eligible that it might already be mostly forgotten/forgiven.

Brendan said:[quote]musicjunky318 said:[quote]

Brendan said:

He's eligible in 2016.

Funkmaster3000 said:

It's common knowledge that while it may be referred to as the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, all genres of music are represented. I don't know how many times that has to be said.

And there's a bunch of questionable absences critics talk and have talked about for years. This dicussion isn't beholden to Alice Cooper.

And one induction at a time would tremendously slow down the process don't you think?