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PrintableYou might consider a few questions in a discussion like this.
1) Was the artist an innovator in the first place. Meaning, would they have continued to push the art of music forward. 2) Age of death (maybe combined with the amount of material contributed.) 3) Were their musical talents and creativity still ascending or had they already reached a plateau. This why the inclusion of artists like Jimi Hendrix & Charlie Parker make perfect sense. 2 others i'd add. Robert Johnson: His songs are a staple of the Blues canon and continue to be to this day. Died at age 27, recorded for approx.1 year. Charlie Christian: Pioneer in that art of modern Jazz guitar (electric) Died at age 25, recorded for approx. 3 years. Music for adventurous listeners tA  Tribal Records"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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Timmy84 said: lastdecember said: There are so many that deserve mention, i mean its impossible to rank any of it because the relevance of each is so varied depending what they were doing but just a few that hit me.....
Michael Hutchence: The last great frontman of a band, nowadays does anyone care who the lead singer in a band is, or do they have something that makes you take notice. Freddie Mercury: talk about the day the music died, god only knows what he would be working on now John Lennon: he was looking at 40 as a new life and new beginning, i think had he lived there would have been ALOT of reconciling in his life. Harry Chapin: The best songwriting storyteller ever, and the last GREAT HUMANATARIAN, this guy did 150 shows a year and 75% of those shows were all for charity, world hunger was his thing, he was given the nobel peace price for it later after his death in 1981 only lived to 39. Jim Croce,John Denver: just for what was still to come, more for Jim than John since John had already done so much, Jim was just starting Terry Kath (guitarist of Chicago) : possibly the best guitar player ever, def in the top 10, too bad Rolling Stone readers feel the likes of Kurt Cobain and Jack White are better, they need to look at the films of Terry. This is just a few, but so many more exist Harry Chapin was 38 when he died and he was given the Congressional Gold Medal. correction he was nominated for a Nobel Peace Price, but it wasnt awarded. He was possibly the greatest humanatarian on earth, didnt need a disaster to actually be inspired to do for others "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Timmy84 said: Harry Chapin was 38 when he died and he was given the Congressional Gold Medal. correction he was nominated for a Nobel Peace Price, but it wasnt awarded. He was possibly the greatest humanatarian on earth, didnt need a disaster to actually be inspired to do for others lol well nominated or not he was a great activist/humanitarian from what I heard.  | |
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Timmy84 said: lastdecember said: correction he was nominated for a Nobel Peace Price, but it wasnt awarded. He was possibly the greatest humanatarian on earth, didnt need a disaster to actually be inspired to do for others lol well nominated or not he was a great activist/humanitarian from what I heard. Yeah im going to do a thread on Harry, he is never mentioned here at all (except on a few threads i did) and to me he was the greatest storyteller, i mean he had some songs that were 9-10 minutes long that once you hear the start of the story, you dont even realize 10 minutes are gone. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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theAudience said: Robert Johnson: His songs are a staple of the Blues canon and continue to be to this day. Died at age 27, recorded for approx.1 year. Tribal RecordsTo be honest, his music sounds a little too "back woods" (for the lack of a better word) for me. However, I definitely appreciate the contribution he made to the blues. Just about everybody has covered his songs. I love Paul Butterfield's cover of Walking Blues. I also love Clapton's cover of "Crossroads Blues" (which contains one of my fav guitar solos ever) and "Steady Rollin' Man". [Edited 1/23/10 17:15pm] | |
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another double post. second time i've done that today. [Edited 1/23/10 17:14pm] | |
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xpertluva said: theAudience said: Robert Johnson: His songs are a staple of the Blues canon and continue to be to this day. Died at age 27, recorded for approx.1 year. Tribal RecordsTo be honest, his music sounds a little too "back woods" (for the lack of a better word) for me. However, I definitely appreciate the contribution he made to the music. Just about everybody has covered his songs. I love Paul Butterfield's cover of Walking Blues. I also love Clapton's cover of "Crossroads Blues" (which contains one of my fav guitar solos ever) and "Steady Rollin' Man". It was the early 1900's how was it supposed to sound. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: xpertluva said: To be honest, his music sounds a little too "back woods" (for the lack of a better word) for me. However, I definitely appreciate the contribution he made to the music. Just about everybody has covered his songs. I love Paul Butterfield's cover of Walking Blues. I also love Clapton's cover of "Crossroads Blues" (which contains one of my fav guitar solos ever) and "Steady Rollin' Man". It was the early 1900's how was it supposed to sound. I know, I know...but I just can't really get into blues in it's earliest form (and I have a pretty open mind). I can barely understand what they're saying and it's just a twangy guitar. I've been told it's an aquired taste. I guess I haven't given it enough time. Still, I've heard a handful of songs (that are a bit more melodic) from that era that I like. | |
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Blues back in those days was spooky. I can't listen to Robert or Charley or them and not be spooked. | |
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Timmy84 said: Blues back in those days was spooky. I can't listen to Robert or Charley or them and not be spooked.
Remember the story how he supposedly sold his soul to the devil..... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Blues back in those days was spooky. I can't listen to Robert or Charley or them and not be spooked.
Remember the story how he supposedly sold his soul to the devil..... Yes I remembered that story. I think he had a song about meeting the devil. I heard it on YouTube and thought I would have to listen to gospel to get my mind off it lol | |
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You gotta look at it from that time. The south in the 20s had to be very spooky.
I think of the movie Sounder when listen too old 1920s blues. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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theAudience said: You might consider a few questions in a discussion like this.
1) Was the artist an innovator in the first place. Meaning, would they have continued to push the art of music forward. 2) Age of death (maybe combined with the amount of material contributed.) 3) Were their musical talents and creativity still ascending or had they already reached a plateau. See, I don't really care about this stuff. A lot of artists I just really, really like their music. Stevie's music isn't as groundbreaking and innovative as it was in the 70's (and contrary to elitist opinion, I think some of the stuff he did in the 80's was pretty innovative as well). But I still absolutely love his music that he continues to make and would feel a huge void in music if something happened to him. I don't need an artist to be groundbreaking their entire career, I just want some good music. Basically, this is like saying an artist is only a loss if they die in their peak, I don't agree with that. I don't disagree with others having that opinion, of course. I just don't think that there is any artist wtih a really long career who have been an innovative genius the entire span of their career when they've been around 20, 30, 40 years or more. | |
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1. marvin gaye
2. sam cooke 3. kurt cobain Would have put James Brown at number one, but he had a long fulfilling career and MJ I believe would not have put anything worthy out in terms of material and live gigs if he was still be alive. | |
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See, even knowing that its not even a possibility now is enough reason for me to put MJ at number one. I really think This Is It was going to be a return to form. Not just the concerts... they would probably be good for fans... but I think he would've done some more live stuff and start appearing at award shows and the like more often. Not to mention there'd probably come a time later on when his dancing would take a backseat to his vocals as he got older and he'd start singing more often.
And speaking of Sam Cooke and Donny Hathaway, they are people I really would've loved to see make it into the next decade or two. I'd love to see Sam Cooke material from the 70's and 80's and Hathaway music from the 80's and 90's. "You Are My Heaven" and "Back Together Again" are about as close as 80's Donny Material as we'll get. [Edited 1/23/10 17:49pm] | |
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Stevie Wonder-should've ventured into jazz after Original Musiquarium, maybe even before that
Charlie Parker-at 35 He already revolutionized Jazz with Bebop, and the way the alto sax & sax in general is played, wonder how he'd've turned out Art Tatum-I just wish he would've gone on longer. Did Prince ever deny he had sex with his sister? I believe not. So there U have it..
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Hendrix
Randy Rhoads Freddy Mercury "Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time." | |
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